Need advice involving gang

[Upside Down Eagle]

Hi guys, girls, etc.

I need some advice on a real life, sticky situation.
It does not concern me. But I am concerned about the person who is being targeted.

The police are already involved but have not been of much help. I'm looking for expert advice from someone who is savy about criminal networks, specially those who operate across country borders. The person in question is being followed and have had their real-time information posted on the web.

Since they are also involved in harassing this person digitally, I do not feel at liberty to reveal more information than this.
Of course I understand if this is not the right place to ask. Perhaps I could be pointed at a place or person to ask for advice.

Cheers,
Gwaihir

 

[Weemie]

What kind of information are you looking for? What group is targeting them and why are they being targeted? Without this data you're not likely to obtain any information of value as most organized crime is localized to group and area, and some groups are more violent than others. This being largely cyber-based leads me to think it is a case of intimidation, but that would imply they want something tangible from your friend - best case is either give it to them or leave the area before it escalates.

Another possibility is mental illness - how sure is your friend that these things have happened, and do they have actual proof that their personal data is being deliberately published online by a gang? There's a fairly well-known phenomenon in illnesses like schizophrenia called gang-stalking, where people become convinced of things like this. I would first verify it is actually happening, then determine why the target and what they want from your friend, and then go from there.

It could be simply a functional way of life in your friend's area (often times gangs can outright replace ineffectual law enforcement, and people look to them for shelter and protection in the absence of real government) or it could be that your friend is deeply involved in some shady shit (as in other places gang activity is much lower, and getting involved is a good deal more intentional).

The police solving it or obtaining a diplomatic solution is very unlikely if it's an established gang, and looking for shelter with a rival is almost guaranteed not to happen unless your friend has something substantial to bargain with. So really compliance or running are your two best options. I've known many people forced out of their homes over stuff like this (usually cooperating with the police and needing witsec or going on the run) and it's an unfortunate reality that these situations rarely have comfortable solutions.

 

[Upside Down Eagle]

I understand Weemie,

It is a case of this person being chased across national boundaries and intimidated by behaviors such as tracking devices on their vehicle, installing virtual cards, and publishing their status and location. They have also planted drugs and broken in to their personal belongings.

Why the target + what they want: it is a case of personal property.
The individuals involved would like to obtain this property through bullying and harassment.

 

[Weemie]

Why the target + what they want: it is a case of personal property.

Every group is different but the people I grew up would simply walk into your house and take what they wanted by force. If that meant signing over the very deed to your house, you'd do it after they f*cked with your kids or blew up your car. So, your friend can either endure the storm or hand it over. Handing it over potentially comes with its own consequences - it tells them that they can escalate - demand more things or even potentially recruit your friend - and that your friend is an easy target.

Because it's property I'm assuming it's an actual structure or piece of land? Which would explain why they haven't escalated physically, but there are lots of ways this could happen. It depends on how cruel and violent they're known to be and even then you might get unlucky and get a non-affiliated sociopath who is hired to obtain results.

By that point it would be much harder to resist and it creates a rapport, whether they want one or not, and an association between them and this group. No good option at the end of the day. If it were me I would stick it out until they escalated or made a genuine threat (doxxing doesn't count, to me) but that depends what the object actually is and also what group it is - some may be more international than others but you are still usually working at a local level.

Has this group physically followed him across state lines, contacting people in the new area to physically harass him - or is this now all digital? Have they made any threats to their safety or declarations of intent?

And finally, there are just some people you don't f*ck around with. It's important to understand if you're dealing with amateurs or essentially big-time players, who function more like governments and employers who brazenly commit crimes in the open because they can. I've had experience with both, and been involved with an amateur outfit myself - the little idiots like us on the ground with guns can be dealt with.

In my city, the "boss" could get a lot done, but if you left the area, you would be reasonably safe - especially if the harassment is coming from street level folks, dealers, patsys, enforcers and all that shit. Someone with connections to the cartel, or who is doing their bidding, you are putting yourself and your family at extreme risk and that risk can follow you around.

My advice would be much different if dealing with CDS/AFO for example. Kiss that house goodbye and go kiss your children that you're lucky to still have.

 

[Upside Down Eagle]

Has this group physically followed him across state lines, contacting people in the new area to physically harass him - or is this now all digital?

This has happened.

The physical harassment so far consists of them physically being present where-ever they go. If they hire an apartment, they will be nearby in a car. If they pitch a tent somewhere, they will be camping around there too.

As far as actual threats, I don't know. So far they seem to have made no verbal confirmations of harm.

Thank you Weemie!