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Broken Dahlia

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Ok, I started posting without an introduction; I rarely seem to do things in the right order. I have PTSD from multiple sexual assaults and deaths when I was younger. I also had a miscarriage almost five years ago that has been one of the hardest things to deal with. I haven't dealt with it, despite therapy, books, meditation, writing, etc., I still get this awesome feeling of rage and hate when I hear about someone else getting pregnant. Especially when it is someone I used to babysit. I come from a large catholic family where all of my younger cousins are getting married, having children, moving forward with their lives and I am just stuck. I have been married for almost 10 years, no kids, no career or job. I am completely dependent on my husband and have also lost the friends I had since I was encouraged to sever toxic relationships by my therapist. Apparently almost every relationship I had was unhealthy and now I feel like a pariah.
Lately the loneliness has been getting to me which is unusual, so I have been reaching out. Like posting on a forum three years after I signed up because I didn't feel brave (lonely?) enough before, haha. This led to a big problem this weekend. I went out with my husband and a few of his friends for dinner, drank a few beers, and actually socialized. I guess I went too far- I spoke privately to one of the guys about PTSD because I know that his wife has it. He was wonderful and so nice; told me that his father was in WWII and he has dealt with it his entire life. He has been married for thirty years and seems happy, even though he has mental health issues himself (PTSD, bipolar). He said he understood, that it wasn't my fault, and that he would be honored if he got the phone call at 3 am, when either my husband or I needed to talk. He was so nice and I felt so good, until...
My husband broke up the conversation, asked if we could finish this later, they needed to get home, they left. He said I behaved inappropriately and cornered his friend with my problems; he was obviously embarrassed. I went to bed alone, depressed and feeling like an idiot. The next morning I called the crisis line because I didn't want to sit alone with the depression and shame. The woman on the line didn't think I did anything wrong, she thought it sounded like my husband had the problem. I know PTSD isn't something to brag about, but I am tired of feeling like I am trying to pass as "normal." I did it for a long time, and apparently I was a really good actress. I am tired of acting, pretending things are fine so that others are comfortable. Both of our families have minimized our problems and I refuse to do it anymore. I told him yesterday that I had made the difficult decision to cut my parents out of my life and if I could do that surely I could handle a divorce. It wasn't meant as an ultimatum, just a fact. I can't keep hurting myself so that the people around me don't have to feel any discomfort.
My husband kept trying to get me to agree that I was inappropriate, aggressive, and had cornered his friend. His friend wanted to come back over the next day and hang out again, so I don't think he felt threatened. He told me about his own experiences and sought out a hug when he left.
We have talked about it and sort of made up; he read some stuff on the internet about PTSD and said he would try to be more supportive. He doesn't know much about it and we have been together for almost twelve years. I don't really have a lot of hope because he has said he would try harder before and here we are. I feel like I did with my family, sad but trying to make myself accept their limitations and lack of willingness to learn how to be better.
We both agreed that we feel like we are at the end of our relationship, but we are going to try one more time. My question: when/how do you decide to give up on a relationship? I feel like it is between us and me now, but I am scared to leave because this is the most support I have ever had. I also love him, but I know that isn't enough, unfortunately. Thanks for reading.
 
My husband kept trying to get me to agree that I was inappropriate, aggressive, and had cornered his friend. His friend wanted to come back over the next day and hang out again, so I don't think he felt threatened. He told me about his own experiences and sought out a hug when he left.
These actions by this friend don't match with your husband's take on the situation. I wonder if this was a threat to your husband and if he isn't projecting his feelings onto his friend.

After 12 years you and your husband have not addressed this issue. Perhaps this is something your husband would prefer not to acknowledge. What does your therapist think about the dynamic between your husband and yourself as it relates to PTSD?

I am tired of acting, pretending things are fine so that others are comfortable.
lol. Welcome to the PTSD club. I think you will find many of us struggling with this as the 'normies' try to overlay their life experiences on top of ours.
 
@Dahlia , I know that's it's very hard for you right now. I don't have PTSD but I am a supporter. My man has PTSD from being in the war and I have a hard time dealing with him at this time so I just do the best that I can with him. As for your situation, I feel that you didn't do anything wrong either. Your husband does not understand and people have a tendency to hate or run away from what they don't understand. As for your friend that gave you the hug, you two can relate because he is going through something similar so he can empathize with you. As far as your family that you try to make people happy by covering up things. You will drive yourself crazy if you continue to try to please people. You should look out for you honey. Nobody will take care of you better than you yourself. I know it's hard because you are not working and have no money/job to support yourself. Do you have a special skill/trade? If so, try to find something in that area and work in that area. do you feel that you can hold a job if you find one? That makes a big difference as well if you will be able to or not. I know that's it's easier said than done but if you can, take a trade that you can graduate quickly in and find a job. Maybe you can do nursing assisting or phlebotomy or medical assisting. Get you a trade first before you start to make the moves to leave the marriage. I feel that if you do that, you will feel better about yourself sweetie. Your husband may be jealous that somebody understands you and he doesn't it could be a number of things as to why he said that you embarrassed him. I will keep you in prayer and remember, what God has for you, it will be for you. In the meantime, continue to go to therapy and go to school. If you don't want him to hold anything over your head as if he paid for your training, there are programs that you can get money to go back to school that are not loans. I wish you the best dear. continue to strive to do a little better one day at a time. :hug:
 
These actions by this friend don't match with your husband's take on the situation. I wonder if this w...
Thanks for the reply! Thanks for the validation, too, I knew this was his thing, but that didn't stop me from shutting down. He felt the same way years ago when I told another one of his friends who was in the military and had it, too. It is like I am discussing my sex life with them or something. I don't know why he is so ashamed, he said he felt left out and that it was bad timing. I think he is threatened any time I open up to someone who isn't a professional, I just don't now why. My therapist thought he was good for me, human, but not abusive. She thought my family was abusive and encouraged me to stay away/protect myself from them as much as possible. But I am still blamed for things that are really symptoms, like they are just character flaws. I am so disappointed in him; it feels like all he cared about was appearances and I am just over that.
 
@Dahlia , I know that's it's very hard for you right now. I don't have PTSD but I am a...
Thank you for your kind words. I have gone to school, but I have a BA in philosophy and half of a MA, which is really no MA. I cannot hold down a job, tried last month and walked out on the third day when I showed up and was told I was in charge of the kitchen, alone, and I had been told someone would be there to train me. Had a huge panic attack, gave back my chef's coat and left. That was the first attempt in years to work for someone else. I also started two baby businesses two years ago, but gave up on that. He makes too much for me to get SSI, and I haven't worked enough in the last ten years to get assistance. I am tired of being broke and dependent, but I am. He is good in a lot of ways, but just paying the bills doesn't mean much to me anymore. My husband and my professors thought that I should focus on my writing when it became clear that teaching wasn't an option for me, but that is laughable to me- I can hardly write coherently on a forum, much less focus on writing a book.
 
Well, that goes back to the fact that he does not understand. He has a lot of pride in him and until he humbles himself and try to understand the condition, you and he will always have problems and your marriage may fail. He has to want to learn about PTSD and he also needs to understand your past and what went down. That is also part of the therapy that he needs as well. He needs to go to therapy with you because if he doesn't you may have to go it alone honey. Majority of people do not understand mental illness and they have no interest to learn either, that's the sad part and a lot of mentally ill people end up alone and not having good relationships. I'm sorry that you are going through this honey.
 
Well, maybe if you would like to stay in the food service business, maybe try working in a small kitchen facility. My man has PTSD and he manages the cafeteria here at the hospital I work at. I tell him all the time that It's too much for him because his employees don't stay long they quit because they can't deal with his attitude. They say that he has a one track mind. I know they are right because he is that way with me. :laugh: :)
 
Well, maybe if you would like to stay in the food service business, maybe try working in a small kitchen f...
I don't know what I want to do- I thought that was the ideal job for me, but my boss lied to me and threw me to the wolves and I lost it. I could not drive away fast enough, and then I had to wait a few weeks before I could pick up my tiny paycheck because I was so sick. I think that the only place that I would really feel safe is working in like a rape crisis center, where they know how to handle me. I thought about becoming a counselor myself someday, but a mediation class triggered the hell out of me, even though I knew they were role-playing.
 
Yeah, you didn't do anything wrong. If anything, I think your hubby feels jealous that the friend can understand and empathize and sympathize, but he can't.

There are people that get it, and those that don't. While I can't speak for those that don't, I imagine it might spur jealousy to see you gaining sympathy and understanding from another man. And this other man has abilities he may lack.

On another note, you seem to be at the place where you're ready to reach out. I know that feeling, like maybe getting up on your roof and shouting out all the hurt. But as we all know, many won't understand. So thanks for coming here, because we do.

Welcome to the forum!
 
Yeah, you didn't do anything wrong. If anything, I think your hubby feels jealous that the friend can u...
Thank you!! It is nice to feel understood by someone who isn't paid to listen to me. I didn't think about jealousy in that capacity- I was confused because this was his long married friend and obviously nothing was going on. Oh well, he has to get over it, and he said he would. He even suggested setting up a time to talk to said friend and his wife because he knows I need support. I shut that down because why would I be amenable to anything now?
 
@ are you on any medications for your PTSD? My man has lost hope that he will not get better.I don't want you to lose hope on this matter ok?
 
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