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She Isn't Going To Change

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I *think* I've written about my struggles with my mother before. If not, well, I'm shocked as it's been a major part of what I'm dealing with. So if I've inadvertently left out details, please just ask.

So this past Wednesday I made plans to see my mother. We met at 1 for an activity, then planned for a late late lunch, shopping, and then were going to work on cleaning out my grandfather's house (he died about a month ago). So at the first activity my mother indicates that she doesn't want to leave (we were at an auction house) because she saw something she wanted to bid on. Great, so the rest of the afternoon was shot as this bumped back going out to eat (the restaurant was going to close) and I had planned on eating at some point as I couldn't just keep working all evening with no food. I told her that I was leaving and paid my bill and went to my car where I completely just broke down crying. My mother just placed THINGS ahead of spending time with her daughter! And not just ANY things, but things that she later admitted to me that she didn't really want, rather they were just there at the auction house and she was mildly interested but nothing more.

I was finally to the point of losing it, and YES, I did it in a very loud and public way, but I don't think anybody heard as there was nobody else in the parking lot at the time. I told her I was SICK and TIRED of her constantly backing out on me at the last minute, and that this would be the VERY last time she had the opportunity to do this to me! She has been cancelling on me and backing out on me at the very last minute for my entire life, yet chalks it all up to MISUNDERSTANDINGS! Uhm, no, they are not "misunderstandings". Telling your daughter that you will help her move cross-country and then backing out at the last minute is not a "misunderstanding". I have a lot more of these examples, too! (My dad has always picked up the slack for her.)

So anyway, she called me later that night and tried to talk things out but I was having NONE of it. I was so pissed that I told her to get the f*ck out of MY church. YES, MY church! This woman has been bashing the existence of God since before I was born, declaring herself a devout "atheist" (is there such a thing?), belonging to humanist groups, and putting down anything and everything religious. So then last Easter (2013) she SUDDENLY shows up for Good Friday Services and my whole world was thrown into turmoil. My ONE safe place was being threatened by her presence . Yes, she has a "right" to be there, just as anybody has a right to be there, but even my priest was NOT happy with the situation and knows ALL about my mother's manipulation tactics and doubts the sincerity of her new-found faith. Well, turns out she has NO new found faith! When I was on the phone with her last night she had the nerve to call me a "bad Christian" for trying to keep her out of church. There are THOUSANDS of churches in my area, SO WHY MINE!?!?! She isn't even of my faith! Why? Because nowhere else would she be able to exact her manipulation tactics! And it took a year, but I can finally say for sure that she has no new found faith. She hasn't suddenly seen the light. This is just another way for her to try and control me, control my father, but the sad thing is that SHE CAN'T!

I am very sad right now. Church and God is my one un-waivering safe place. If I had a choice I'd walk away from everyone and everything that I knew just to keep that sense of safety. YES, that's just how important it is to me! But, my mother has no concept of this whatsoever. She thinks she can bully herself in and things will be fine. Well, no, they are not fine. I gave her the benefit of the doubt, hoping and praying that she had changed, but the truth is that the wolf can't stay hidden in sheep's clothing forever. She has shown her true colors. No longer am I going to pretend to have a civil relationship with her. She doesn't even see where she has gone wrong. She even threw it in my face saying "you'll be back, you always come back". Sorry, MOMMY, not this time. You've proven yourself and I cannot allow myself to be continually battered around by your antics.

Backstory....
The Church issue is nothing new. She has been anti-church since before I was born. Come to think of it, she's been anti-everything. Anyway, part of what is so surprising is that this was a 180 degree transformation, pretty much overnight. She knew she couldn't destroy the faith of me or my father from outside, so she had to get herself inside and work that way. Sick, Sick, Sick. She tries to tear me apart from God but I am the bad Christian because I don't want her at the one church service that I have been going to for years. Yes, I could change, but this is a special kind of service within my church and I would probably have to drive an hour or more just to find the same service, not to mention the fact that I wouldn't know anybody there. Why the heck am I trying to make up excuses?!!? Argh.

@shimmerz mentioned putting energy toward something positive, and that's what I was doing. I had a great project that I just thought up a few days ago and I'm SO excited about it! But then all this stuff happened and derailed me for a bit. I am still excited about my project and it will continue moving me forward.

I just need to mourn the loss of my mom. This really is the end. I can't have her threatening my ONE true and unwaivering sense of safety in this world. Non-negotiable.
 
I am so sorry Solara, I know this has to be very hard on you. You did the right thing though, you couldn't let her keep hurting you. I understand very much, especially about the church issue. My mom did the same thing and sounds a lot like your mom. I'm not even going to get into the horror stories about what she did (including joining my church only to curse several of the ladies out and leave my church only 4 months later and make my life a living hell for going to church there…).

You want the truth? I admire you. I really do. You stood up for yourself, and that is something to be extremely proud of! I am working on setting up boundaries with my mom until I can move out again. I pray you have peace and confidence in that you did the right thing.

In a way, haven't you been mourning already? Mourning for the healthy, loving mom you didn't have. I know that is my case. My therapist said its like mourning the death of the mom you never had.

Again, prayers going up for you, I am excited for you with your new project :) brighter things are ahead! :hug:
 
Solara, I've never told all of my story here either, as it is too long and convoluted, and the devil is in the subtle detail that is so easily overlooked by others.

The short version is that I have a very Twisted Sister who was my primary caretaker, and who became a reborn Christian when I was a teenager. It served to put me violently off Christianity. About ten years ago I approached Christianity from a very intellectual angle - and made my peace.

About three years ago my sister and I went through a period of 'reconciliation'. During that period my 5 yo daughter did a little thing in church, and I stupidly told my sister about it, who attended. Shortly afterwards she contacted the minister with the usual: I am a danger to her, to my daughter, to myself and society at large. Although I had warned the minister that this might happen, he was still sufficiently impressed / scared / convinced ... whatever, to take Twisted Sister seriously to the extent that he never told me about it, but told someone in the congregation, who then told me. The upshot was that I once again ended all contact with my sister (I was simply doing her a favour - surely she'd be better off without such a dangerous person in her life and environment) - and I left that church. My daughter really felt the loss keenly.

I'm telling you this to explain why I say I really get what you are saying about your mother and the church. You have posted about this before, and I think there is not a single pure or good or benign impulse in her presence at your church. What the solution is I don't know, sorry.
 
Sorry things are what they are, but GOOD FOR YOU! Seriously! I guess, sometimes, it's hard to know when to quit. On the one hand, I admire you for being open minded enough to give her another chance. More than that, though, I admire you for deciding to make it her LAST chance. People can change, I guess, but they have to want to. The odds of that type of person seeing the need to change themselves, rather than everyone else. Are slim. It's her loss.

Have fun with your project!
 
Losing a safe place can be life altering.

You use the word manipulative a lot and it sounds like she is just that. So I am going to suggest that the word 'misunderstood' is being mixed with manipulative here. Manipulation is understanding completely the needs of another but having an agenda to gain somehow by ignoring those needs and serving your own.

Are you certain you are not using the word misunderstood when really you mean manipulated?

She has been cancelling on me and backing out on me at the very last minute for my entire life, yet chalks it all up to MISUNDERSTANDINGS!
You have lots of examples listed above that I see as manipulations, not misunderstandings. However it seems like your mother likes to use the word 'misunderstanding' which throws you into a responsibility piece. Could she have, all of her life, assigned the wrong word to your feelings to make you feel misunderstood when you were actually being manipulated?

I commend you for setting your commitment to holding onto your safe place - no matter WHAT. That takes guts. That is self love.
 
With my own relationship with my ever "in her behaviors" mother, I took a different tack and on self reflection decided to take a run at my frustration tolerance. Some improvements, but mother is still perplexing, stressful, and anxiety producing at times. I can though have those feelings without the "Ka-BOOM" reactivity now.
 
Sorry, I wrote this at 2am so it is quite possible that I was mixing up terms. I spoke with my priest yesterday and she is so incredibly supportive. I don't know what I would do without her support. Yes, her job is to maintain a level of neutrality, but she is simply amazing at what she does and can give a more objective view of a situation and see when people are not at church for the right reasons. My priest knows I'm not trying to do anything unreasonable from my end of things, rather maintain my right to have a relationship with God and the church without being pushed around by my mother.

I'll add more later. Something just happened and I'm a bit agitated. Ugh. Thank you all for your replies.
 
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