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Should the Person(s) Who Traumatized You Be Punished for What They Did?

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I think that they are already punished after the crimes they commit. They have to live with that the rest of their lives--maybe they block it out or deny it, but it's still there, overshadowing their lives.

I can't handle seeing or talking to my parents. Even my son gets so physically ill when he goes to lunch with my mother that he starts to vomit. While I can forgive, I don't punish--I just stay away from her. I don't know if you call that punishment-but for me, it's a survival tactic.
 
I think there is no treatment for sick people who abuse children. The cure is a bullet. Which leads to all other sorts of stuff that is best not mentioned. I love life and do my best each day to be positive and help others. I believe in "what goes around-comes around" theory. This alone has helped keep me sane. I just want to be there to witness some of what is coming!
 
Not caring is a powerful place to be. Not being attached to outcomes is a powerful place to be. For all of us this is an individual journey.
I struggle with it quite a bit, not going to lie.
I am responsible for me and my children, nothing else. I cannot control any one other than myself. Therefore, I am not doing any thing to anyone when I say this is truth, this is what happened. It is not badmouthing, it is not vindictive, it is accurate reporting of an individual truth, that is all.
The best advice I have received (from therapist) is three little words.
So Be It.
I live by those words. I cannot control what happens, but I can speak the truth and everything after that falls under....So Be It.
There is a part of me that wants justice. That part will always be. I can choose to report to the authorities someone elses behavior, as a matter of fact, but I cannot change what happens after that. It is all filed under, So Be It.
For those of us that have had horrible things happen to us at the hands of family members it is a hard road. If someone had broken into your home and assaulted you then the world is behind you, especially if you defend yourself.
Not so much if it is a parent, a spouse or a sibling. That stranger would have done time. Intimate abuse is devestating and frequently without recourse. People may judge you negatively if you pursue justice against a family member where they would aplaud you if it was a stranger.
It is a long, hard, and lonely road you walk. There are so many of us who travel with you. You are not alone.
 
There is so much wisdom in what you say, Shari. Man, I'm still trying to control others, demanding the outcomes I demand. Justice never served is a drug hard taken. Oh, to detach!
 
Very interesting thread Void.
It's weird I have forgiven my Dad for his abuse, (but then is that the good dutiful daughter in me trying to seek approval? or maybe because he's dead he's easier to forgive.) My Mother though I still get so angry with, forgive her...no.She still has power over me, she still can make me feel like crap.The boys who bullied me at school, I feel angry about them too but it's pointless, it happened nearly thirty years ago, so therefore forgiveness is also pointless. The strange thing is I can write that I'm angry but I never get angry...ever. My first boyfriend, I'll never forgive but it does seem pointless too.
Then there's the young lad who terrarised me with a phone call and his bully mate who harrassed me for months, them I very much wanted an appology from, did I get it no, I feel cheated and let down because of it. Have I forgiven them, no, but maybe if I did I could move on with my life.
 
Dear Void,
This question punishment&justice and forgiveness has been a journey...

When my mother died and we got home from the funeral, some little kid part of me started skipping and singing internally,'Ding,dong the witch is dead. Which old witch. The wicked witch'. She was a manic-depressive whose mania was always violent. She was hospitalized for many many months many times for trying to kill me. I guess she wasn't very good at it. I also thought of getting a really good weedkiller on dousing her 3x6 grave with it so everyone would see how poisonous she was. I never did it but it was a thought:rolleyes: I still work on forgiving her for that and for the many other ways she tried to wipe me off the planet by removing anything from the house that reminded her of me. It was her absenses that let me be sold into the child prostitution trade time and again.

As for rapists... I think a threatened woman or girl child should be able secreet a substance that would make the rapist's manthing rot painfully and fall right off!!!!! Why should he ever receive pleasure again when his victims never will. Now that would be justice.
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As for me, the child prostitute, I feel a great deal of empathy and compassion for the Johns. I think I always knew they were not created to do the things they did. Something had gone terribly wrong for them too.

Forgiveness is a very different thing. I am an Orthodox Christian and I firmly believe that all people are created good, in God's likeness and image, into a sinful world. I believe that our most Godlike gift is freewill. People are free to choose what they choose to do but only to a limited extent. I believe that no one can actually have freewill if they are driven by anything other than the love of God. I believe that God will never intervene in a matter of freewill even when the actions are criminal and tragic. I have felt defiled, worthless,etc,etc..Now many years later, I can see that the temple of God really is within me somewhat obscured by my own sins and is within everyone.....

Forgiveness involves action and a willingness to forgive,

I am alive when I should be dead for the times my mother tried and for the times I survived when so many others did not. BUT I KNOW WHAT THEY DID so I am the right and possibly the only person to bring them before our loving God in prayer. I had to find a way to do that without triggering myself by their deeds against me. :think:

After many years of study,I learned that God lives in eternal time(kairos) and that we live in linear time(chronos). This means that God is present to all linear time at the same time. ex: now is the day Christ was born, now is the day he died. God's name is I am.

I asked my spiritual Father if I could go the communion with one of those who had made themselves one flesh with me, (husband and wife become one flesh with each other, St. Paul- don't make yourself one flesh with prostitutes) and ask Jesus in his body and blood to reveal himself to those who was one flesh with me as I carried them to him. I prayed that way for 6 1/2 years. Gradually, I became aware that I was being re-formed from a garbage can into a communion vessel....WOW....a couple of years ago, I was aware of a soft tenderness towards those men, which can only have come from God. Humanly, I think this would have been impossible for me. And this year, I am more filled with tender compassion for them than ever.

This does not excuse the wrongs they did. I still get caught in flashbacks with them, feel terror and anxiety and need to isolate a lot. I greive my many losses and am full of physical pain.

Now I can sense Christ is within me still on the cross, alive, doing what he came to do-carry away sin and give comfort and companionship. My life will always be hard. My spiritual Father calls this way of Christ's being with me as co-suffering with me.

God shines on the just and the unjust. I think that is because He made them both and loves them both.

Sorry this became so long. I didn't know I had so much to say.
 
YEEEEHAWWWW!!!!!! Booknerd! I LOVE it when someone thinks like I do. It's so rare. It's just a damn shame IMHO that we aren't allowed to employ this most direct method of removing the rabid dogs of our society. I could give a phuq that my parents were abused as kids; it's that they continued a pattern EVEN AFTER THEY KNEW what it was like. They chose, in whatever demented manner, to be who they were. So, yeah, I love your idea. Bullets are cheap, easy, and permanent. Like rabid dogs, it may be true that it isn't the abusers' fault that they abuse; but, also like rabid dogs, it also means we can't just let them run about willy-nilly to do as they please. They're dangerous. Worse, they're contagious. (please excuse my enthusiastic beginning exclamation- a bit of my Southern leaking out. hee,hee) red
 
Hmmm :think: I wonder if I'll feel differently when my parents are eventually deceased? I don't know. Something to ponder:think:

Void

My mom, who was one of my abusers, recently passed and I feel so much relief because now I don't have to worry about her return, not that I would let her in, but I always tried to help her regardless of what she did to me along with the other person.
However, I am sad she passed because she was my mom and tried my best to help her in life and give her a nice funeral (noone was there but me, and actually there was no funeral, just flew her to her home state and buried her.)
I am glad she died for her own good as well. Shes not in complete misery anymore.
I have conflicting feelings towards her. I hate her for what was done, but at the same time wanted to help her. I don't know.
 
i dont no i have never been angry at richard or lee for what they did to me it is just more of a deadend sadness inside of me it feels like it was my fault i was sexually assulted i cant get over it but i have never been angry at them just sad
 
I was thinking in the middle of the night that I should rent a billboard in the small town where my parents live and put their pictures on it. I would have them put a caption on the bottom saying "Look in to the eyes of those who abused and neglected their children."
Just a thought. Too nauseated from stress to sleep.

Void
 
That's a great thought - like having the men caught in prostitution being published in the local newspaper. Too bad that it would probably raise your stres level way high. kudos fror fighting back in your mind!! It feels like you 'get it' that what they did was really really wrong!
 
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