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So called confident people.....

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Rani G2

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There are three people in my life who many would call ( Or my own perception) Selfconfident and Do have some sense of selfworth.

Now..all these years I have struggled with feeling more inferior than others and at the same time idealizing those who are dominant and powerful and also trying to appear strong.

Now everytime I meet these people I feel weak and want them to show that I am strong. It feels like competition ... as if I need to win too.

Meant as if I need their approval.
 
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Don't feel weak, being authentic to self is the road less traveled because it's hard work.

Decades ago someone made a comment about me at an apartment complex I rented. They said in reference to me "that guy who walks around like he owns the place". I was that guy. A complete front I put on every day of my life..it sucked being unauthentic to self...it crumbled away with the rest of my life after an incident at work. Putting on masks and fronts from my point of view and experience is to practice something that only further alienates you from people and moves you further from your own true beautiful self. Don't get into that competition. Just be you, it's good enough. My me is good enough too.
 
Hi @PURUSHA... You know looks can be deceiving.. What I mean is they may appear to be confident, strong... But how do you know they are?....

It's like us with our PTSD.. nobody knows.. They can't see it...

I guess anyone can mirror someone else's confidence... If you want to.... But why don't you just be yourself.... Learn some self worth and love.. And then you will appear strong.. Confident.. Powerful....... Take care.....
 
Why do you need their approval?
I need "others" validation that I am strong ( Not 24/7 but at times...yes) This is a "perpetrator's introject". As if I developed a part of the perpetrators identity in my own self. There is an aspect of myself which kind of idealizes violence, power and oppression, seeing compassion as weakness.
it crumbled away with the rest of my life after an incident at work. Putting on masks and fronts from my point of view and experience is to practice something that only further alienates
It does MrMoonlight. Trying to go on a different path...thanks.
But why don't you just be yourself.... Learn some self worth and love.. And then you
Seems like unreachable....but I guess its a process. :)
 
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I cannot tell you how much I identify with this, @PURUSHA!

My thoughts are that I consider myself to be unworthy enough to place such people higher in worth/hierarchy than myself; that they are my Peers and I'm fortunate to have them, they're more intelligent, interesting..

For awhile, now, I've been picking that narrative apart to analyse its power over me, while constructing a new one, step by step, that I can practice, until it works - becomes part of me..
My T helped considerably, but the work is mine.
 
I understand. I explained this to myself finally when I realized I was being submissive. It made it much easier for me and I was able to forgive myself for all that behavior, but it was very difficult. The approval thing I need that often because, "I can't get that from myself." So you (I) seek it in others or from others. It is really hard to "be the watcher" so I can try and prevent this stuff in the moment. I get blind. I go limp (possum) in my brain, it just unplugs. I can't say anything that makes sense in my own defense. I don't see the mechanism. I can't see what it is in me or the other persons/situation that sets this up. It's frustrating.
 
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When you look at the people in your life -- are they doing or saying something that makes you feel bad? Or are you upset because they are "more" than you think you are.

For example -- I'm extremely self confident. Some of it was that I was just born that way, some is upbringing, some is because I've been thru hell - so there isn't much a random person in the world can do to undermine me. I am very accomplished in my career because I spent a lot of years working 80 hour weeks trying to outrun my mind. Work was my drug of choice. There are very few people that can match me in this. I don't brag about it, because I don't need to. That's self confidence. If someone in my world feels bad they haven't done as much as me that's on them. I can't make that better.

On the other hand I work with a guy who has only done a few extra things and he uses that information constantly to make himself look better than others. he uses it in conversations, in meetings, etc. His goal is to prove he is self confident by comparing himself to others and making them look "less". If this is who you have in your life --- it's a problem (And oh yea -- he hates me because I call him out on it all the time! LOL)

There is a HUGE difference between people who are self-confident from the inside and those who build their self confidence by putting other people down. I hate those people. These are the people who make you question your own worth so that they can feel superior. They will put you down to make themselves look better. They will happily throw you under the bus if it makes them successful. And if you challenge them they get angry that you are doubting them or making them look bad. Are those are the people in your life???
 
Dear @PURUSHA , Idk if this is at all helpful, but IME if I feel intimidated it is often because I don't feel I have the tools to handle another person's demands or behaviours towards me (enforce my boundaries), or I recognize that another's actions are deceitful but I cannot protect others, or I do not feel I am competent in a skill or requirement. However, I've also noticed those who actively 'push' their confidence on to others (ie appear "loudly 'confident' " vs " quietly 'confident' ") often dance a fine line between bullying +/ or my-way-or-runway behaviour, and are actually IMHO, insecure. Like a dog barking, or an animal puffing up it's chest to ward off threat.

If I get that from "them" I don't feel weak

If you truly value them and want to emulate their characteristics, that is ok and your choice.

For me, true confidence is a by-product of integrity and character; a person who can recognize their strengths, but have the confidence to say they don't know; who can feel good about themself without making other 'less than' in their eyes to do so; who is above-board and therefore doesn't need to remember what they've told in lies because they haven't felt a need to; is someone who doesn't do what they 'could' do through power or prestige or position just because they 'could' rather than they 'should'; especially taking in to account the needs and equality of others; and is a person content to live with healthy boundaries and being their true self, regardless of what others' opinions may be.

Those I have known who I would call truly confident, are very aware and desirous of putting all around them at ease, or at the very least do so. I believe because they do not seem to have a need for others' validation, do not have ego, and do not feel neither overly superior nor deficient, and in doing so- putting thoughts out of their mind of their own uneasiness- they can focus on others- but genuinely, it is not a show.

Sort of the paradox, I suppose, of in not needing others' validation or respect they frequently garnishee just that.

But I suppose it's all in the definition, because not all of those people would consider themself confident, they've just set their mind on the task, do what they know to do and how to do it, and don't concern themselves with only focusing on themself- how they are viewed, or what they want, or what others think of them. But that too, to me, is very different from situational confidence, or abuse of power or position. The first is living in a respectful balance to others, the 2nd is focused on self-gain simply because you can.

Just my simple opinion though. :notworthy:

There's a famous idiom, "If you want to be a knight, act like a knight", ie , don't pretend to be, but rather make the choices instead true to that, however you see and define it. Then in time you will become congruent to who and how you want to be- truly. No matter what anyone else thinks.

For me, I will never be confident, that is true to 'me'. However, I just (and can only) 'do' and be 'me'. No one will be me (thankfully ;)) nor will I be someone else. But I'm too busy and too pre-occupied to care about it.
 
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