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Relationship Taking The Blame

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I am not sure where to even begin anymore. My marriage feels like it's been flushed down the toilet. I constantly walk on eggshells trying not to set her off but that doesn't work anymore. She blames for everything lately. A year ago she had a routine surgery that she ended up having complications from and for the last year she has been trying to recover. We are down to one income which I struggle to keep money in the bank to pay the bills because she'll spend it faster than I can earn it. Over the course of the last 6 months she's blown through $16,000 and has forced us to live off of credit cards at times. This of course has tanked my credit and has driven a huge wall between us. I begged and pleaded with her for months to stop spending beyond our means as it was going to have a very negative result on any future plans. Needless to say we couldn't afford to go on a planned trip to California...we had plans to move into a new home which after my credit tanked will not be happening....all which she blames on me. We fight constantly...let me rephrase that...she yells at me constantly over everything. Her parrots wake her up...it's my fault...the kids fight...it's my fault...I feel like I am here just to be her whipping post. Intimacy has been gone for over a year...I miss everything thing about it. Her hugs and kiss before I leave to work feel just like a routine thing she needs to do as a part of her morning routine. She threatens me with divorce at least once a week, some times more. I have no clue how to help her and I feel like my only course of action is to leave.

Help!! I have no clue where my wife went...I miss her...the person in my bed at night looks like her but it is not...
 
Oh my, a year of that...you must be exhausted, emotionally and physically. You've come to the right place...

First off, is your wife in treatment? It's so hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel either way. However, it's even worse when your partner is not getting help, which provides at least a glimmer of hope that she might be "back." Also, you haven't mentioned anything about her diagnosis. I'm assuming, PTSD is an issue. But her overspending also has a bipolar/ manic depressive ring to it. Is that the case?

I'm also assuming you've tried to have a conversation with her in a calm, non-fighting moment? If so, is there any accountability on her part that she might have an issue, or is it complete denial?
 
Exhausted...doesn't even cover it

Her diagnosis is PTSD, anxiety, Borderline Personality Disorder, OCD and yes,possibly Bi-polar. She sees a therapist every week but it doesn't do any good. She takes 4mg of Clonazepam (sorry if it's mis-spelled) daily and it does nothing.

I'm going to try to go to a local support group tomorrow.

She takes no accountability for her actions it's always someone else's fault.

Yeah...I've tried to talk to her calmly but all that ever does is end up setting her off because we can never talk about the real issues that need solving without her triggering.
 
Cut off her spending. Open a new bank account in your name only, cut off her credit cards, whatever you need to do. At this point in time she is putting your family in jeopardy financially and needs to be stopped. This is not financially abusive or whatever she is going to say. This is protecting your children and home. Give her cash for her expenses, and take over all bill paying. You are allowed to set boundaries as to what you are willing to put up with. Busting your butt being the sole breadwinnner while she flings money out the door with both hands is not OK, and you do not have to tolerate it.

Being the target for her bile is not OK either. You do not have to tolerate lashing out behaviors.

Boundaries are important when your partner has mental health issues. You will be miserable and end up a doormat without boundaries.

Boundaries are not about changing her behavior, they're about what you will and will not tolerate. Like "I will not tolerate the berating, lashing out and verbal abuse. If she does that, I will leave the situation until she decides she wants to talk to me like a human being." Or "I will not tolerate her financially destroying my family or her misuse of money while I am the sole breadwinner. If she continues to do so, I will cut her off." It's not "YOU have to stop spending money!!" or "YOU need to stop yelling at me. It's a "if xyz happens, *I* will do abc" statement. You cannot control anybody's behavior but your own, so boundaries are your own personal limits. She has the choice to respect your boundary or not.

You need to communicate your boundaries calmly and clearly. Then communicate them again if she violates one. For instance the second she yells at you say "I cannot stand here and be yelled at. When you're ready to talk to me I'll listen", then leave the room, go for a drive, take the kids out for ice cream... whatever. That is enforcing your boundary and you need to be consistent. Do it every time. Eventually she will learn that you're serious and your boundary is firm.
 
Boundaries are not about changing her behavior, they're about what you will and will not tolerate. Like "I will not tolerate the berating, lashing out and verbal abuse. If she does that, I will leave the situation until she decides she wants to talk to me like a human being." Or "I will not tolerate her financially destroying my family or her misuse of money while I am the sole breadwinner. If she continues to do so, I will cut her off." It's not "YOU have to stop spending money!!" or "YOU need to stop yelling at me. It's a "if xyz happens, *I* will do abc" statement. You cannot control anybody's behavior but your own, so boundaries are your own personal limits. She has the choice to respect your boundary or not.

This.

Boundaries are what you do. If she yells, I will walk away. If she throws something I will go to a hotel. Etc. Each and every single time. If this? Then I DO that. It's about what I'm willing to tolerate.

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A note on cutting someone off financially. Unless you do this through the courts, you will need to keep VERY good records of it.

Past
1. Document the 16k. Not down to the penny, but be able to back up that she spent it, and where it went. For example if 15k went towards medical expenses? Then that's not justifiable, for cutting someone off, as she was only actually living off of 1k over 6mo. If 8k went to food, 4k to clothes, 2k misc., & 2k normal living expenses? Then that's justifiable.

((My ex tried to use my paying my son's medical bills as gross mishandling of family finances & justification in cutting me off. In the beginning, because of the numbers involved, the judge was very much on his side. Right up until I handed over the documentation on what I spent the money ON, and how little I'd actually had to live off of, for years. I'm NOT saying you're doing this, or not justified in cutting her off. I've just spent a great deal of time in court around this issue, because my then-husband cut me off. So when you do so? Expect to be challenged as being financially abusive, and be able to prove you're not.))

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2. Budget out everything, and give both yourself and your wife the exact same amount of spending money. When you cut someone off? You cannot leave them with nothing, or it IS abusive. It doesn't matter if you buy everything they "need" for them. So budget out the bills, groceries/household expenses, savings, & take what's left and split it in half into yours & hers. If need be, if your bills exceed your income? Spend the money to have a financial planner / CPA do this, so it's all above board. Not so that you both have "nothing" (even in bankruptcy funds are split so that there is money for food / transportation/ EVEN entertainment/ etc.), but so that you both have a reasonable amount of living money, and your bills are being paid down. It may seem like an impossible expense when you're already in the hole, but it will save you 10s of thousands of dollars, and possible felony criminal charges (as some states take spousal abuse very seriously), and it doesn't matter that they "earned" being cut off. You can't cut them off, unless you divorce them OR follow the above professionally paid out budget, repayment plan, & individual allowances; or you will be charged with spousal abuse, and also have to pay your wife back income withheld.

((In my case the courts ordered my ex to pay me a little over 40k of withheld monies, in addition to alimony, child support, all household bills for 2 years, & 75% of community assets. Because they did the math on what he earned, and what he "allowed" me to have access to. I didn't actually get any of the money, I horse traded it for custody / I DGAF about the money, just wanted my son, he DGAF about our son, just wanted the money. But on paper, that's what the courts ordered he pay, or face several years in jail & a felony record. They didn't care about the domestic violence & child abuse, but the financial abuse they had solid numbers to work off of, and they didn't make it punitive, but they did make it reparative.))
 
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You'll know when you've had enough. There won't be any doubt.

I would try setting the boundaries again, firmly. She has no say, they're your boundaries. Make sure you reinforce them without fail. See if that makes a difference.

She needs to respect you enough to respect your boundaries. Thats the least you can do when you're in a relationship.
 
She slept until 3pm today...woke up, yelled that she didn't have time to clean the house any more today and has been yelling at me ever since.

I think I have reached that point...

Let me add...I'm not allowed to clean because I won't do a good enough job. So it's not that I didn't want to clean up while she slept to be a nice husband but I knew that that if I did it would have woke her up and she would have yelled at me for trying to clean...
 
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I am not defending anything else just the seeping and cleaning issues. My sleep is all over the place, waking up at 3pm is not abnormal for me as a result. My PTSD does interfere with my house keeping and I feel so bad about it that I even have nightmares about it.However my husband doing it just makes me feel like more of a failure. The house does not need to be spotless and the less pressure I feel to keep it that way, the easier it is for me to get things done.

Her spending habits? Yeah, she gets no sympathy from me there at all.
 
I just want to say thank you to all that replied to my post! I have no one I can talk to about all of this...I feel me family just wouldn't understand and I can't afford a therapist because of all the other therapies I am allready paying for so to have this outlet has in one day lifted quite a bit of tension from me.

I have told my wife point blank that I will not tolerate being her personal whipping post or her human door mat. I told her I think we need to find a couple therapist and that I am willing to move out for a while for her to have her space to find her self again but I will not divorce her. Some where in there surrounded by the circling anger sharks is my wife and I am going to find her again.

I told her if she wants more time in he morning to drink her coffee to get herself out of bed. Last Friday I tried wake her and her only responses was "F$&k you! I hate you!" I told her I will not tolerate being treated that way and she can now take care of getting out of bed on time.

Again...thank you for helping to make what seemed like a hopeless situation into a possible future with the woman I do truly love more than life itself.
 
When you say that setting boundaries hasn't worked, you're implying that it hasn't worked in changing her behavior? As @Sweetpea76 has pointed out very poignantly, we have to use our boundaries to protect ourselves and stand up for ourselves, not to hope for some change in the other. It took me bending my mind into a pretzel to finally get that point, but it's sunk in enough for me to actually enforce boundaries while being able to live with the fact that they may or may not have an effect on my SO - it's not about us or him, boundaries are about me. We really need to learn to take care of ourselves that way - nobody, no matter how much we love them, has the right to trample all over us.

The sad fact is, people only change if they want to. We can't convince them, coax them, or talk them into anything. If (and it's a big IF) we have an effect on other people's behavior it's only through setting clear boundaries and not wavering - it's the only way their illness will ever be able to meet our reality.
 
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