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Erin Lee

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My husband has been suffering severely with PTSD (childhood abuse in addition to combat) for the last year. Well, he’s had it for a while - but the last year has been intense.

Two months ago we got into an argument and he left - when he came home he told me he put a gun in his mouth and that he was so close to pulling the trigger but didn’t.

Wednesday he pushed me during an episode of pure rage brought on by what most would consider a small argument.

Last night I walked in on him setting stuff up to hang himself. I pleaded for him not to do this. We have a toddler. He has a 5 and 7 year old from a previous marriage - and they’re in town for their Christmas visit. (We only get them a few times a year - never ever on Christmas so this year was special). All the girls were upstairs sleeping. He continued to get ready, put the belt around his neck and I just lunged at him. For the next 45 mins we fought physically - me trying to get him to just stop. He’s bigger and stronger than I so of course he was able to push me down every time I tried to do something. The fight was scary. I just kept telling him that he could hurt me all he wanted but that I was NOT going to let him do this.

Finally I ran upstairs to call 911 and ran back down - once I had 911 in the phone, he took the belt off his neck, off the rafters in the basement and was yelling to the dispatcher that I was lying. Then he grabbed his keys, said “ok, I got you” and left.

Police found him about an hour and a half later - he admitted that he did in fact make a serious attempt at suicide so they took him to the hospital for a psych evaluation - and I was assured he would be admitted whether he wanted to or not. They told him he needed to me and he left. He literally walked out of the hospital and went missing again! I received a call at 5:30 am letting me know that he was gone.

Luckily, about two hours later, the police found him again and took him back to the hospital... where I’m hoping he stays.

I have no idea what to say to the girls because the 5 year old woke up from all the noise and was scared and crying. I hate that this is effecting the kids.

Was I wrong for jumping on him? What would you have done? Or if you’ve sadly experienced something similar - what did you do?

And do I continue to try to help him? Or am I just putting myself in danger? Probably a dumb question.

Ugh, Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone out there today. Praying you all know that you are loved today and everyday.
 
Oh @Erin Lee. I am so very sorry this is happening. You did the right thing!!! He's where he needs to be right now.

My guy was in EXACTLY the same.place just over 5 years ago. He had a noose made and luckily I went looking for him. He was outside praying to God for guidance.

The next morning he called the crisis line and got him an emergency appointment at the VA an hour later. They saved his life. He started the work therapy program and changed his life. This time of the year is awful for my guy. He's so sad. Crying. Depressed. Angry... Most of his traumas were this time of year. He lost many brothers through the holidays. Either in combat or by suicide.

Tell the kids Dad is sick and needs to be in the hospital for a little while. No need to elaborate.

Meanwhile, take care of yourself and your little ones. Maybe you can call the crisis line for yourself. They can talk you through your emotions and fears.

Best wishes to you and your family. Again, you did the right thing!!

Praying for you all.
XO
 
Definitely did the right thing. Never doubt yourself for doing what you did.

My boys know that I am not very well, my eldest put it in such a simple way that only kids can. He was asking why I havent been at work, so I told him that the doctors said I wasnt allowed to return just yet. He asked if I was psychically sick to which I said no, but I am not thinking very clearly and in my role, that could result in someone losing their life. So, in a way that only kids can, he said "So its like being sick with your thoughts then?". From a 12 year old.

Dont lie to the kids, but be honest. Say dad isnt very well at the moment with what he is thinking, but he is getting help and reassure them how much he still loves them.
 
What an enormous stress for you and the children right now to have to suffer through. I cannot imagine.

Sending prayers and love your way. Things will get better. This is all what needs to happen to change things for the better. Don't despair. God is with you and the kids and with him too. Bless you all... I know 2018 will bring better things.
 
I can see why you did what you did, it was probably instinct to jump in and help. However, with the state he was in and the way he's been violent with you lately, he could have easily made it a murder/suicide.

Then your child would have been without both their parents.

I trust my vet and I don't think he'd ever hurt me, but I skedaddle to a safe distance and observe when he's dissociated, and I stay out of arms reach if he's in a rage. I have two kids and they need me more than he does.

Be cautious. Be very cautious.
 
Oh @Erin Lee. I am so very sorry this is happening. You did the right thing!!! He's...

Thank you for responding and sharing your story with me. I’ve been told over and over that it can take time and that it can get better (be managed). I just hate watching him struggle in the mean time. I’m so happy to hear your guy is doing better these days. I’m praying so hard that mine finds peace in a healthy way.

And yes - my husband, too, lost several friends this time of the year. A big one being Dec 23... and with his family past, I know holidays are hard. But I love him so much. My parents love him so much... probably more than they love me. My brothers, my sister-in-law, etc. He is a part of our family and I wish he could recognize that... and that it was enough.

In regards to the children... luckily neither remember waking up. Phew. And I just told them that daddy wasn’t feeling well and needed to go be at the doctors today. Just sad because the girls go home tomorrow :(

Definitely did the right thing. Never doubt yourself for doing what you did.

My boys know that I am not...

Wow. Children and their simple yet brilliant minds amaze me sometimes! I did end up telling them that daddy wasn’t feeling well and needed to be with the doctor today. The 5 year old just asked if he puked.

In regards to reassuring them... they’ve been hearing daddy loves you, daddy misses you, he wishes he was here, etc all morning.

What an enormous stress for you and the children right now to have to suffer through. I cannot imagi...

Thank you for your prayers and kind words. I’m hopeful that 2018 will bring some peace.

I can see why you did what you did, it was probably instinct to jump in and help. However, with the...

And this is exactly why I am so torn. I know I run the risk of getting hurt by jumping in - and my child is more important than anything in the world... but at the same time, I can’t just sit back and watch him hang himself.
 
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What ripped me apart was when the same 12 yr old son came to me crying a few weeks later saying he missed my smile and my life. That he just misses his dad. I just managed to control myself enough to get away from him after giving him a hug before i just broke down in tears. As i write this i can feel them welling up again.

You know that you can use virtually any force to stop someone killing themselves right?

* laugh not life
 
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and my child is more important than anything in the world

That's whats up. There is *enormous strength* in this. Hold tight to it because it's true and this belief will guide you to make the decisions that are neccessary. You can't tolerate illness so out of control that it will hurt you and the children-- no matter how much you love a person, the responsibility is theirs to take care of their own health.
 
What ripped me apart was when the same 12 yr old son came to me crying a few weeks later saying he missed...

I’ll be honest, I almost cried reading that because I’ve had my friends say that to me and I’m not even the one with PTSD. But it’s something I tell my husband

I hit post too soon**

I tell my husband all the time that I miss his smile but he is at that point where he just doesn’t care. It makes me sad

And in regards to other options - I’m sure they exist. I just didn’t know what else to do in that very moment. Ideas?
 
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