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Triggered By Mothers Day

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xena21

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I wonder if others have a hard time dealing with the fact that they aren't Mothers or have families of their own? Do you always have to do something just for your Mom though you are a grown up woman who wants afamily of your own?

I always thought I would eventually have a family but I am so disturbed by sex and relationships that I could never be in one or have any type of family of my own. The closest I would be to a MOm would be to my pets. I love my pets more than anyone could love a person though (except maybe a couple)...
 
Mother's day was hard for me, but for a different reason. My mom and I don't have the greatest of relationships… in fact it can be very toxic and abusive at times. I wouldn't have went to church, but I thought I was suppose to run the computer only to find out the other lady came to run it too. I dissociated through most of the service. It's just to painful to hear about all the great mothers for me…

I too treat my dogs like my babies. So to make this day bearable, I came home and laid in bed with them and watched tv.
:hug: gentle hugs if you would like them!
 
I am also triggered by Mother's Day this year because of the internal conflicting feelings about my mother. I find it helpful to pay attention to the spiritual mothers of my heart, such as Mary (even though I am not Catholic) and the ideal mother, the Creator. I find that nobody lives up to that ideal, but we can let that love and energy be a thought and a meditation in our hearts on this day, to bring more of that energy into our inner and outer world.

I suspect many people suffer on holidays for many reasons; it is good to be mindful of others and sensitive to what they could be feeling and not able to discuss. I like that awareness of my trauma has made me more gentle and caring to others. So there is a silver lining somewhere, I think, and you are finding it. I respect that.
 
I lost my abusive mother when I was nineteen years old to a plane crash. I am now fifty nine and mothers day is no longer a issue for me. I am much relieved that I have gotten used to not having a mother.

I now celebrate it with my daughter and my friends who are mothers.

It would trigger me if my mom was still alive. It would really mess with my head and heart.

You are normal for what you are going through. My heart goes out to you. Hugs and hope for better days ahead for you.
 
Yes!!! Today was awful, and I am so glad it is over, yeah, we made it through!!! I have been on this web site and calling a counseling hotline literally all day, if I am not on one I am on the other.

If you aren't Christian please don't be offended, I am just relaying something, mainly for myself, maybe it will make someone else think. Mary was cousin to Rebecca, who could not conceive, yet she still was happy for Mary's conception, and later, by the power of a miracle she became pregnant as well.

I am not with my daughter any more, my mother was abusive is a huge part of how my rapist took my little girl away.

I don't celebrate her, I don't celebrate me right now either, because this PTSD is keeping me from my baby, from protecting her, but it was trying to protect her, trying so insanely hard that got me the PTSD.

Any way, screw mother's day, you don't need a card to remind you how special it is to be a mom, and what a great responsibility it is.

But I know in my secret places of my heart, when I think about my sister's children, and how they will never have a man so cruel take away their child, or have our mom abuse them I have to try to be like Rebecca; and be happy for them and grateful that if those children are loved and treated well they won't go through these pains or give these pains that we talk about on here. Does that make sense?

It doesn't take a commercial holiday and overpriced Sunday brunch to love and be grateful for love, even if it isn't our own.
@xena21 I hope you have peace and maybe someday you will be walking your dog and some kid will come up and pet it, and it will stop a terrible temper tantrum and give some mom a minute to breath so she can be better mommy that day, it takes a hole village you know.
 
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@xena21 , yes! I feel exactly the same way as you. Although I am still hoping to have some sort of family one day. If I can't have it with a man I may do it on my own. Just as long as I'm mentally stable :)

Your definitely not alone on this :(
 
Not anymore. Used to hate it and dread it because my mother died suddenly when I was 10 (I walked into the room as she was having a fatal heart attack so it's traumatic in more ways than her simply being dead). Even with the resurgence of PTSD, thankfully, this year, it was barely on my radar.

I don't want kids, I would probably rather be told I had a terminal illness than 'you are pregnant an doing to have to be a mother', so I guess I'm not the best example of pining for children I haven't have. But I know it is a real issue for most women without kids.

It sounds like you are grieving, that mothers day triggers in you a sense of loss about not being a mother (due to your current difficulties with the idea of sex etc)?

Xena - do you mind if I ask how old you are? Age can be a big part of how you feel - i.e., if you are young, i.e. in your 20s, then you have many years in which to heal from PTSD and get to a place where you could be a mother. What seems impossible in the middle of PTSD is not necessarily a fact - ten though at the moment you very much believe you can 'never' get past your feelings about sex etc, does not make it a reality.

If you are in your late 30s or older, then yes, less time before your 'biological clock' ticks over BUT that too wouldn't mean you can't ever be a mother (adoption, foster parenting etc).

There are many good books, articles available online / local library about grieving for not being able to be a mother and / or facing a life without the possibility of having children. It might help you to google and look up some resources on that. Many women feel a huge loss if they are unable to have children (for whatever reason, not 'just' infertility), or feel it won't ever happen to them.

I have fur babies and I understand completely the deep sense of love we can have for animals - it really is unconditional love - unlike any human relationship, where it can't be completely unconditional. Animals are safe to love, they won't hurt us, or abandon us.

How is the relationship with your own mother? That too can have a huge impact on how we feel about mothers day, and how we feel about motherhood. In my case, the sudden death of my mother at a young age, as well as her abuse towards me is what has lead to my fear for being a mother myself. My sister, on the other hand, is the opposite - her feelings led her to having 3 children in a very short time frame (i.e. 3 in 2.5 years). While I strove to avoid at all costs, repeating my childhood (I used not one, but two forms of birth control when in a sexual relationship), my sister was desperate to recreate a different outcome and have kids and be the mother she never had. But it didn't protect her from have severe postnatal depression with the birth of her daughter.

Our desires to either have kids or not have them is often very complicated. I also think many women want kids because that is what they feel is expected for them to do - to not have children or to be seen not wanting to have children, can leave some women feeling they don't belong to society, or will be judged or looked down on as being cold and un-feeling.

So another part of the equation might be for you to think more carefully about WHY you have wanted to be a mother. Was it the appeal of 'unconditional love' or 'someone to love you back', or 'you love babies'? Again, if you search online, you will find good resources that will help you explore this (i.e. articles on 'choosing to be childless', even though you don't currently think that applies to you, wide reading on the topic might reveal more to you about yourself). Sure, it's a long shot, but maybe deep down, you find that 'hey, maybe motherhood isn't what I really REALLY want, afterall'
 
Xena - do you mind if I ask how old you are?
I am 41. SO I am definitely beyond what I would want to start a family. The thing is I don't want to be pregnant or have kids. I want to be close to someone in general. I am always alone. I have never had a relationship. I see parents with children as a way for people to be close. I see families as a way for people to be close. I don't have any close friends or companions. I don't relate well with people in person. I am afraid of all people except for my Mom.

I have been lonely my entire life and I'm tired of being alone. I would rather die soon that be alone any longer.
 
@xena21 I definitely relate to how you feel - I struggle with getting close to anyone also. I guess I'm a little different in that I don't ache or yearn for a close relationship - I think my fear of getting to close to another human being far outweighs any loneliness I might otherwise feel. I'm very happy being alone, single, and until the earthquakes in my city, had no problem with being an emotional island. I coped well, alone, with all sorts of life stresses (including my father dying of cancer and his death). I didn't 'need' anyone close to 'cope' or 'get by'. BUT, when I was traumatized by the second and fatal large quake in my city a few months after the first big one, that is when I really could have done with someone close as an emotional support. I don't think I wouldn't' have got PTSD if I did have close emotional ties to anyone, but it probably would have helped me feel less alone in my struggle.

I'm confused if you do or don't want a family? You say you do not want children, but related the idea of having someone close to you, with the image of family? Is it a relationship with another person - you yearn for? Can you elaborate what it is you WANT and NEED form another person to help you feel 'whole'? I think that is important because it might be that what you NEED is not possible. Example being many of us who have lived a childhood of neglect or abuse, crave a parent child relationship - we ache to have someone 'care' for us. That is very different to the aching for a lifelong sexual partner, with whom you live with and share a life together.

A parent / child scenario is one where you are looked AFTER, rather than look after another person in equal measure. A long term relationship / defacto / marriage type situation is where you are looking for a relationship in which you are more equal to the other person - is, you GIVE and take; you care for them in the same way they care for you - it is more equal in that aspect.

I am assuming you are in therapy, working with a T? Have you talked to you rT about your desire to be in a relationship / close to someone else? That would be a gaol to work towards - yes, given you have huge fears about sex etc, it doesn't mean it is something a few sessions in therapy will resolve for you, but I do hope you can begin to talk about what it might mean for you, and work through the deeper issues behind your fear.

If you can muster JUST ENOUGH courage to explore this, within the safety of a a therapy relationship with your T, I think you will be surprised (in a good way - how much healing is possible. But it does require a huge 'bottle of brace' to begin.

Have you talked about this with your T? What does your T suggest? What else can you do in therapy, to work towards overcoming your fears of being close to someone?
 
I'm confused if you do or don't want a family? You say you do not want children, but related the idea of having someone close to you, with the image of family? Is it a relationship with another person - you yearn for?
I've always wanted to feel safe. I thought that if I had a family I would feel safe. I would grow old and my kids would protect me, my husband would protect me. I would have other people watching out for me and caring for me besides just myself. The thing about it is, that's the very large picture. When I look at the real life view it can never happen. Thats fairy tail world. I'm afraid of people. I'm horrified of anything to do with sex and wouldn't want to have sex never mind have children. All in all its an impossibility...just a dream a young girl who had been abused thought up.

I went into the military and law enforcement so I could be on the same level of the men who abused me. I wanted to understand how men thought. I wanted the tools to defend myself against the world which I have always thought as evil. Despite getting all that knowledge and training, I can't shake any of what I have ingrained in my head and my fear of people. Now though I just wish someone would try something so I could beat their ass. That's the only difference...the anger is so much more intense.


I am assuming you are in therapy, working with a T? Have you talked to you rT about your desire to be in a relationship / close to someone else?
I have talked to my therapist, actually recently. They were wondering why I was going downhill. I tried to explain that life to me wasn't about living if it was going to be alone forever. I've been living in a cave sticking a stick out at people shoeing them away from me for years now. I live in a Catch-22. I want to be close to others but I'm absolutely terrified of doing that. I'm so terrified that I will probably die before that happens...and my therapists know it.

I feel so out of place with people particularly with anyone who has kids or is married or has any relationships. I just don't get it at all.
 
@xena21. Safe hugs if wanted …

I relate to a lot of what you've put. I am a similar age to you, and at the end of the year it will be my big Four Oh - and that comes with it huge fears of growing old and being alone. Not that I want to be with another person - I actually don't. I think I would be quite happy being single forever, and being the neighborhood crazy cat and dog lady :). And you now what - there is NOTHING wrong with that at all.

There are several online source you can google, of stories from other women, who might be 'childless by choice' - just to differentiate between those of us that do not want children, from those that desperately do want children, but due to infertility issues, cannot. I sometimes feel insecure about my life in that yes, it might not be 'the norm' to be a single woman with no desire to want kids or a husband, but the reality is, we are FAR form the lonely old spinsters living a life of regret! Ok, so Oprah has a husband, but she chose not to have kids.

Just know, that even though it doesn't feel it now, it is VERY possible to live a fulfilling, happy,content life, being a middle aged, single woman without children. :)

In terms of feeling safe - that is a hard one. It's great you are talking to your T about this - it's quite possible that the 'fantasy of what 'safe' would actually be like, is not reality. I.e, if you did have kids and a husband, that is no guarantee either of them will protect you or even stay with you. Or, it might be you have the world's nicest husband, but he is unable to give you want you do desperately need - a sense of safety - probably safety you needed as a child but did not get. If it's your inner child, the part of you that is desperate to feel safe, that is looking and searching for this safety, then a huge part of your healing will be in somehow3e being able to accept that time is lost; as adults we cannot 'get' the safety we needed as a child, as an adult. Not unless you entered a very unequal relationship with someone where they parented you - they made all the decision, and took all the control. It would likely be a very unhealthy relationship though - in which they had to give you love, care, attention, but never receive it in return (at least not in an adult way, from your inner child). It would be doomed to work.

Xena - you say you feel you will 'die' before you allow another human being close to you, and how you'd rather die alone sooner rather than later, than always have this ache to be with someone, yet too terrified to allow it to happen. Yes, it is a very real fear you have, but it is not reality hun. I very much relate to this, I have been struggling with just this issue for the past few months.

How is your relationship with your T? have you been seeing them for long? Do you trust him / her? The therapeutic relationship is an awesome opportunity to learn how to allow the walls to come down from around you, and to centre out to make a connection with another human being. You must be already doing this to an extent, given you have talked a little about this recently with your T. It's taken months of seeing my T to feel safe enough to open up to her about some of my biggest fears, ones I have had (in relation to her) for most of a year! I've been TERRIFIED to raise some of those issues and fears - but each time, she was been nothing but awesome - non judgmental, open, receptive, and encouraging. With each baby step I take, I can feel myself slowly trusting her more and more - and I am feeling SAFE at times. Even in the days in between our once a week sessions, I can feel 'safe' just knowing she is 'out there' and I will be seeing her again soon.

But I was only able to start feeling 'safe' when I let myself take the baby steps and open up to her. It took me a long time to wrk out what my big fears were with her. Initially all I felt was incredibly triggered when I saw her (dissociated, and afraid). I posted a lot about this - 'when therapy is your biggest trigger' thread. I was able to work out I was terrified (understatement) of a) what she thought of me, b) what I thought of her, c) anything that recognized or acknowledged ANY form of a connection to her at all. I cannot make any eye contact with her. I can't even tell you what shoes or pants she wears, or what color anything she is wearing is, I am so cut off from her in our sessions. I am THAT vulnerable and terrified of a 'connection'.

I feel I am a long way away from even looking at her shoes, but I have taken other baby steps and I am feeling the rewards of those. I was able to work out why I am so afraid of a 'connection' between us - because my mother's relationship with me was one of emotional rape, she would invade me emotionally, flood me, take all the good things I had inside, and drain them from me, leaving me feeling empty, drained, vulnerable and in desperate need of being loved. Logically I know my T has no intention AT ALL of harming me in ANY way - but emotionally, my inner child is still terrified she will 'invade' me. In talking to her about these fears, and why I have them, I have been able to receive a lot of reassurance form her that she will not ever purposefully hurt me. I don't' always feel its true at the time, but once I get home (and a lot of distance is put between us) I can sometimes let that sink in - and my inner child DANCES with JOY at how she really doesn't want to hurt me!

So how is it with your T?
 
How is your relationship with your T? have you been seeing them for long? Do you trust him / her?
I have 2 therapists I see. One is with the Veterans Administration, who I don't really trust a whole lot just because I have had issues with them in the past, and the other is with a private hospital. I try to be open with them, yet I am not as open as they want me to be. Their biggest complaints or repetitive comments to me are that I need to open up to them more. It's not that I try to be secretive. I am just afraid to talk about things. I don't know how to say what they want me to say.

I have been seeing my therapists for about six months now. I haven't even told them much about my life except what they know from my profile. I know I should trust them but I just have such fear related to talking about my past and anyone involved with it. I want to say I trust the Dr from the hospital that I go to, but I don't understand why I can't explain to her everyday things about my life. I still don't have the trust I need. I have always had trust issues.
 
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