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We Don't Get Better Do We?

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Junebug,

What does "dealing with and accepting every aspect of the trauma, ..aware of", mean to you, if I might ask? Does it mean recognizing feelings/ beliefs triggers and such, as just being those and carrying on with the thought that it is to be expected, and to try to alter them if possible/ necessary?

For me it meant using EFT to recognize, accept, and make changes to the different aspects of the trauma, so when I try to think about them and try to get myself worked up about them again, I can't and continue to have a SUDS level of 0 with them. In my experience doing EFT has been a way to accept and address the individual parts of the trauma at the same time. Usually I start with what I am aware of (a memory, feeling, belief, trigger etc.), concentrating on it and do rounds of EFT on it. During this process I usually have other things come up, things that may not have been on the surface, so then I do rounds of EFT on those things as well (other memories, feelings, thoughts, beliefs etc.)

I'll give you an example, during one of my sessions I was doing EFT for the fact that I was so upset that this woman I never knew was murdered. I started to do a round of EFT for the fact that I felt so sad that she had been a mother, when the thought of my own mother just came up. Through this process I discovered that one of the reasons that I could not let what happened go was because the woman murdered was a mother and had a family and I am very close to my own mother and have always had a fear of her dying in some awful violent way. The pain I was feeling surrounding this particular part was not so much that the woman murdered was a mother, but how I would have felt if she had been my own mother murdered.

I did EFT rounds for how I would feel if my own mother had been the one murdered and for the fear I had about her dying violently like this woman had and I felt an emotional shift. Now I can think about the whole "mother" part of the trauma and it no longer bothers me, I no longer feel that pain and sadness that I just couldn't understand for so long. This was a connection that was never made unfortunately through out my years of talk therapy. I really had never broken each aspect of the trauma down into such detail before, and considered so many outside contributing factors to each part. When I say outside contributing factors, I mean personal beliefs, fears, memories, feelings, or meanings that I may have tied into the trauma on a less conscious level.

I've experienced years of thinking I had everything under control only to fall apart again and again, until now. I never could experience memories of the trauma feeling calm and at peace like I do now.

I did several sessions of EFT and journaling, most of it was done at home by myself in front of a mirror, with a notebook, pen, and tissues. I'm certainly not recommending this, I'm just telling my personal experience. I had sessions that lasted for hours, I felt very sick sometimes afterwards, sometimes I would fall asleep I would feel so exhausted and tired. I had times where I felt very strongly that I did not want to do EFT and continue to work on things.

PTSD advantages? Maybe I should have said advantages to not healing my PTSD and getting better. There were personal advantages for me to not get better and remain sick that I needed to address. After being sick for so long with PTSD I felt comfortable with it, the unknown of getting better and having more of a life seemed scary to me. Change can be very scary. Yes what I was experiencing wasn't great, but at least it was familiar to me. Not getting better meant I could stay in the familiar. In some ways it was also a form of protection for me, If I got better and started "living" my life, getting outside and doing things might mean a greater chance to have really bad things happen to me again. If I got better, maybe my husband wouldn't love the "changed me", we met after my trauma and after I was diagnosed. If I'm sick, I can get out of things, and people may expect less from me, I don't have to worry about backsliding or disappointment of failure after trying.

I'm not saying these thoughts were right or true, but they were beliefs I had at the time and they seemed to make sense to me.

I hope at least some of this answers your questions and makes sense.:)
 
when I thought I had depression, I was hopeful for a day when I could find the right drug, meditation level, mindfulness, pleasant distraction, biofeedback technique, whatever, and put it behind me. Now, after 6 months of knowing I have PTSD (C-PTSD), I am aware that depression was a side effect and I own the diagnosis fully. I have this. Thats alot to chew. I see it for what it is and it frankly scares me to my bones.
I am like the old (kind of sick) euphamism for a cancer death that hospital workers use: Healthy Tumor.
I am a healthy case of CPTSD with a human attached somewhere, I own this, this is me. Thats alot.
 
Dear curioser, thank you for your time and effort- yes, it makes perfect sense, seems it helped to uncover a lot of primary fears, beliefs etc at the root cause of much of your pain.
I also agree with your explanation of your beliefs as regards change/ healing- it sounds like even those thoughts could/ should be addressed with EFT (which I know nothing about). I can almost not recall 'pre-ptsd' so I guess I don't know who I would ever be if I weren't this way. Although I cannot 'hide' from people's expectations because of it (I haven't told anyone) I can hide from my own expectations- or lower them, if you will (in a non-healthy way).

Thank you so much for your honesty and kindness, and to tell part of your story. I think you have hit the nail on the head that the root causes often involve unrecognized and unexplored fears/ grief/ beliefs etc, and really learning perhaps to trust one's self and others in order to be able to recognize them.
And also I just thought (just as regards myself), hanging on to what is familiar (but even deadly) could be the same thing- a "get out of jail free" card instead of learning how to "renovate the prison", lol. Or more specifically, open the door and walk out- scary or not.

-Thank you so much-
 
I believe I am better but not necessary stronger for knowing I have Ptsd.
Before I knew what this was I could lock my feelings in a chest of iron and so remain untouched by emotions. Nowadays I am constantly caught unaware's by songs, adverts or TV shows which expose me to feelings that I struggle to deal with.
 
I am a lot better. I started out with PTSD when I was 19 with severe agoraphobia, I would have panic attacks if I felt the couch and I had panic attacks all day, My throat was always read and sore from breathing so fast all day. I did a lot of psycodynamic therapy, stopped being agoraphobic in 5 years, re-established relationships with my brother in 5 years, got off antideppressants in 5 years, got well enough to have a child in 7 years, kicking ass at being a parent, and the real test will be my biggest problem, getting close to people outside my immediate family, getting past the rage of the PTSD and being able to work again. I knoked over rage 1 week ago,it was a 9 year olfd part of my personality that was very angry and detached form me that had to let me hold her hand again to let go of the pain. I believe that my problem with being close to people and working is about to get knocked over to as I have just resolved the memories at the core of these problems with work and getting close to people. I applied for a part time job yesterday and kicked ass in that too. 13 years.
Yes you can get better. I still have PTSD, but the symptoms severity has been reduced and some symptoms have been knocked off one by one in my case.
 
I keep typing and deleting after reading Curioser's post. It is profound to me on many levels and I can't articulate them now.

I have to believe we get better because I am stuck in this body, mind, and this life until nature or man sees fit.
 
Great!!!:cry: One of the last prayers I said was to ask God to make a cure for PTSD-so we don't have to live like this anymore--I've been mad at him for so long because of how I have to fight every day to maintain--But I will still wait for him to answer this one because I have faith in my request for some strange reason.
 
I think learning how to better manage symptoms/behaviors and be aware of triggers is really all we can do. Having a good support group/spouse/friend/T can work wonders. My ex was not supportive at all and I think I suffered more from that unhealthy relationship. My current bf helps me so much- I really don't have the words right now, but I feel safer with him (which is saying A LOT).

Every day is new with the potential for happiness. Sometimes days just suck and I feel trapped, hunted and alone. Other days are better. Learning how to manage PTSD is really all I can do.

I agree with the comments about the severity of symptoms decreasing over time. I used to have panic attacks- a lot. Now, I might have just a couple a year- if that.

Learning to live with PTSD is the key. I am learning to accept it and myself. I still have a lot of shame associated with it, but I also have more support now- which helps immensely.
 
WTF ITS NOT CUREABLE!!!???

The fact that the trauma happened never goes away, so it makes sense that the the emotional and psychological issues resulting from it never really go away. Once something happens - anything at all, even if it isn't traumatic - it changes you, changes the direction of your life, and how you view the world and how you live. IMO you just learn to take it in for what it is and then learn how to deal with it as this new part of yourself.

What doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right? Eventually, anyway..
 
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