What are your ACE/PCE scores?

[tofubreadcoriander]

I'll start with mine. My ACE score is 6. Though I no longer experience bodily issue, I'm still holding on to trauma both in my body and in my mind. Not much on my Positive Childhood Experiences (PCE). What are your ACE/PCE scores?

If you're unfamiliar with Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACE) and/or PCE, you can read about it here: https://acestoohigh.com/got-your-ace-score/

 

[Friday]

ACE - 0
PCE - 7

 

[tofubreadcoriander]

ACE - 0
PCE - 7

That's amazing. You had a nurturing childhood.

 

[Friday]

You had a nurturing childhood.

Yep, yep! Badass amazing childhood, actually.

Although it’s probably key to note that the ACE study was essentially a suburban whitebread firstworld way to predict whom to deny insurance, or charge higher premiums for. As it only includes a narrow slice of childhood trauma, common amongst their policy holders.

The overwhelming majority of childhood traumas? Didn’t make the list.

So, whilst you happen to be right in my case? I’d be very careful about jumping to conclusions, with others. As we do have members on site who were child soldiers, sex trafficking victims, kidnap victims, K&R victims, gang violence, cartel violence, police violence, military violence, famine, plague, living under fascist & totalitarian regimes, genocide survivors, prison/labor camp survivors, refugee camp survivors, motor vehicle accident survivors, survivors of (often multiple) terrorist attacks, abusive mothers or other family members aside from your mother being abused (only fathers abusing mothers make the ACE list), burn victims, minefield victims, growing up in foster care, homelessness, assault, robbery, natural disasters, etc., etc., etc.

 

[tofubreadcoriander]

Yep, yep! Badass amazing childhood, actually.

Although it’s probably key to note that the ACE study was essentially a suburban whitebread firstworld way to predict whom to deny insurance, or charge higher premiums for. As it only includes a narrow slice of childhood trauma, common amongst their policy holders.

The overwhelming majority of childhood traumas? Didn’t make the list.

So, whilst you happen to be right in my case? I’d be very careful about jumping to conclusions, with others. As we do have members on site who were child soldiers, sex trafficking victims, kidnap victims, K&R victims, gang violence, cartel violence, police violence, military violence, famine, plague, living under fascist & totalitarian regimes, genocide survivors, prison/labor camp survivors, refugee camp survivors, motor vehicle accident survivors, survivors of (often multiple) terrorist attacks, abusive mothers or other family members aside from your mother being abused (only fathers abusing mothers make the ACE list), burn victims, minefield victims, growing up in foster care, homelessness, assault, robbery, natural disasters, etc., etc., etc.

Indeed, the discussion (among professionals) is that there should be a question listed: "Any other experience(s) not listed above"

 

[Weemie]

ACE is 8, PCE is 2. I hit most of those statistic charts as well. Escaped liver damage, so far. Not for lack of trying.

 

[Light and warmth]

ACE 6, though I find it oddly specific in some respects and there're a lot of things that aren't on there that did happen and are significant.

PCE- 0

 

[tofubreadcoriander]

ACE 6, though I find it oddly specific in some respects and there're a lot of things that aren't on there that did happen and are significant.

PCE- 0

What would be your ACE score if you would include those things that aren't on the list?

And, how have you been addressing the lack of PCE in your childhood? Have you surrounded yourself with good people? Take good care of yourself?

 

[Charbella]

ACE -5
PCE-2
Not that I think the two should be grouped. I don’t think there are enough PCEs out there to balance some of the ACEs.

I mean really there are some kids who have happily divorced parents who are both supportive and love their children.

There are some kids who are abused daily and still have people who care about them. That’s not balance. Just my two cents.

 

[tofubreadcoriander]

ACE -5
PCE-2
Not that I think the two should be grouped. I don’t think there are enough PCEs out there to balance some of the ACEs.

Mmm, I'm not sure it's about grouping rather research showing that kids who have PCEs turn out to be resilient and not develop the ailments other kids develop later in adult life who had ACEs but no PCEs

I mean really there are some kids who have happily divorced parents who are both supportive and love their children.

There are some kids who are abused daily and still have people who care about them. That’s not balance. Just my two cents.

Divorce would be an ace. However, if both parents are supportive and loving, that kid will turn out to be ok.

Abuse daily can surely set one up for C-PTSD however, I believe that if there's enough support early one it can be motivated. At least this is what the research has shown.

 

[user27357]

it depends, and it doesnt matter IMHO.
If you consider the people i fell in with and shared rent with before i was old enough to rent myself a place (18) to be my “family”, my ACE is higher, an 8 instead of a 7. I have never been offered the PCE test so my score is based on my interpretation of the test questions and it is also high, a 5 or 6.
So how can this be?
There are 3 distinct parts of life before age 18. all the PCEs came before age 10. And all of the negative ACEs started at 11 but were pretty much survived and history by age 14.
So what if someone had a really rough early life that was corrected and enjoyed ages 11 to 18? Possibly the same mixed up scores but a different affect?

 

[PlainJane]

ACE- 9- My mother didn't go to jail until I was an adult. She was in the newspaper in the Crimestoppers section a couple of times in primary school though.
PCE-1