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Sexual Assault Rape, Alchoal And Being Horny

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I don't see how that's possible - I suggest you check other possible sources for your problem.

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You bring up a great point but the more I learn about her the more I move forward. Today saw a clinical social worker and she explained why I was confused on what we had because of her self esteem she has boundarie issues
 
she explained why I was confused on what we had because of her self esteem she has boundarie issues
OK. But try and remember personal accountability, as well. It sounds like you thought you were dating, and she did not. She might have sent you all sorts of mixed messages - but also, you chose to hear what you wanted to hear.

It's not just her boundaries that were the issue. And it's not going to fix anything, for you to be preparing to compensate for her post-trauma behaviors.

Are you hoping to have a romantic relationship with this person? Or just to rebuild the friendship?

Either way, she's got to be just as motivated as you are...and it keeps sounding like she has totally moved on.

You're really dragging yourself through the weeds, here, in my opinion.
 
I may be delayed responding to this message, but the link just showed up in my email and I feel co...

Whaaaaaaa?

I think you're turning this into something that it's not. The woman gets drunk and flirty. How this is being turned into something of concern because she's coming on to married men or 16 year olds-------! Please, just stop. Neither of these scenarios have even been in question so it's a bit much to insinuate that this woman must be stopped now before she steals away your husband or molests your child------! No, just no. This woman is hurting. Please stop turning her into a perpetrator when she has done nothing wrong! <This feeds DIRECTLY into the stereotype that those who have been abused go on to abuse others.>

<<And this is totally off topic but I am venting here that Apple doesn't have the damn word "abuse" in its dictionary. Abuse is a bad word, just like f*ck. Damn you apple. Every time I type the word "abuse" on my phone, I want to hurl it at a wall because even you are shaming me! Dammit. End of vent.>>
 
OK. But try and remember personal accountability, as well. It sounds like you thought you were dat...
Neither of us wanted to date each other but because I'm a guy I'm forever guilty right? If I could stop thinking about her I would but for some reason I can't forget about her. I have one above and beyond for getting the right help for myself and getting questions answered that are making it easier to move on.
 
Neither of us wanted to date each other but because I'm a guy I'm forever guilty right?
Thanks for clarifying - and no, you're not 'forever guilty' because you're the guy. You've talked about boundaries, and being pissed that she had a (new) boyfriend, and the sum total started to seem like a relationship misfire, which is it's own kind of complicated, let alone putting PTSD into the equation.

I'm as likely to react strongly about this because I'm a woman, and I've been raped, and I had a bad experience in telling my (now) ex. He didn't handle it well. And I distanced myself from him, for my own mental health. As a person who reads your posts, I'm frustrated that you don't seem to be accepting any of the actions she has taken - it just looks like rationalizing her actions through the lens of PTSD.

What if she doesn't have PTSD? What if she's a rape survivor working out all the normal (hard) things that go with working out having been raped, and part of that is needing to be able to tell people to stop pushing so hard. She told you to back off, and you didn't. That's her fault?

What if she totally knows her limit, and is working her ass off to allow herself to relax in public again? And if you weren't interested in a romantic relationship, why is it your concern that she's flirting? Why is 'horny' in the title of this post? You paint a picture of her whoring herself out at the club - well, a) you weren't there, and b) why the hell is this your personal business anymore? Please don't say it's because you care about her - it's not. It's because you are learning to forgive her:
A girl told me she was raped and has pushed me away. I am starting to learn to forgive her.

Sorry, I can tell that I'm very opinionated on the subject, and it's personal. But I'm tired of reading threads you start about this woman who is apparently the major source of agitation in your life, yet she's actually done nothing wrong. As far as she is concerned, she's asked you to leave her alone - but you won't. You keep posting on here as if she is still in your life - but she's not. You don't need to forgive her. You need to move past a friendship that died.

In short - this is about you, not about her, and the sooner you stop making it about her, the sooner you'll start to feel better.

Whether you can see it or not, you are obsessing over this person. This is the definition of obsession:
If I could stop thinking about her I would but for some reason I can't forget about her
And it doesn't seem to have to do with PTSD, anymore.

Tell me where I'm wrong.
 
because I'm a guy I'm forever guilty right?
Why do you think this? Did the girl say this? It seems like there's more to this story than I know. I really don't know all the details on this situation, and despite going through your previous posts on the subject, I still don't have a really clear picture of things. But from what I understand, you had a female friend for a short period of time who, at some point, disclosed to you that she'd been raped and then she pushed you away and said she no longer wanted contact. Is that right or is there more to it? Honestly -- and I say this merely as an objective observer here, with full knowledge that perhaps I am not aware of certain things going on -- I find this thread somewhat frightening. Because you are basically trying to turn flirting into pathological behavior, and for someone who is not even in your life anymore. Think about that objectively. You have heard from third party sources that a girl you used to be friends with gets "overly touchy feely and flirty" when she drinks in bars. And you are trying to somehow pathologize that and make it out to be the result of being raped, when there's no real evidence she's even doing anything abnormal. Do you know how many people go out to bars and get touchy feely and flirty? Probably 99% of people who go to bars.
If she told you during the friendship that she gets blackout drunk and has a drinking problem, fine, maybe she is self-medicating. But I somehow doubt that she needs you to be monitoring and analyzing her movements. The fact that this girl is not even in your life anymore does, in fact, make this seem like an unhealthy obsession. It seems like you are zooming in and focusing on minor things that don't even concern you in order to avoid thinking about/dealing with something else.
 
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Thanks for clarifying - and no, you're not 'forever guilty' because you're the guy. You've talked a...
if you are a female rape survivor than why didn't you do what I intended this site to be was a way to educate myself to get a better understanding of what she is going through. I got help when it was too late I'm sorry for that being a crime. I'm sorry that I was emotionally abused and humiliated as a kid and those scars showed up again. I'm sorry that I didn't handle it well because I was too over protective about losing someone I didn't want to lose. I guess all those things make me oj Simpson,

There is more to the story and the way I get attacked by quite a few posters not worth explaining details. Found out trauma is the issue of why she thinks I will hurt her. She has PTSD but that is not affected our friendship unless there is a part of the story I don't know.

I'm taking blame for 47.5 percent of what happened. If you or anyone else is a rape survivor I am open ears to learning so I can salvage what we had.
 
if you are a female rape survivor than why didn't you do what I intended this site to be was a way to educate myself to get a better understanding of what she is going through.
Pretty sure myself, and others, did.
If you or anyone else is a rape survivor I am open ears to learning so I can salvage what we had.
Describe what happened when she told you about the rape. What motivated her to share it (if you know), and how did you respond?
 
Before I get ridiculed this was before I started seeing therapy. Right now I am at the stage of recognizing my behaviors and soon hope to work with my therapist to change them. To fill everyone in I have dealt with a lot of abuse from my mom along with forms of being abandoned by friends and parents. Because of those things I was scared out of my mind to have my friend leave.

Around midnight she texted me asking if I was near her. Next morning I texted asking if everything was ok she said she got black out drunk and she thought the guy next to her was looking at her funny. I asked her if nightmare was from her date rape and she said no I was molested/ raped in college and have PTSD. Told her I am glad she told me but sad that she continues to get hurt. Told her she was beautiful, special and loved. That afternoon was joking around with her and asked if she was going out again that night.

The thing that is weird looking back on it is we were always open, honest and real with one another. She is probably the first and only person I could tell anything to without feeling shamed or embarrassed. We really did trust each other and had this quote about being on the same team. We weren’t dating but it felt like we were. Could be chemistry or could be boundary issues my guess is a huge mix of both.

That following Monday she seemed more distant. Needed her help with something (part of the story I don’t feel like getting into details) and she wasn’t able to and got upset at her. Next week she said she needed space and was confused. I said an insensitive things such as let me know when you are ready because I am. My boss got involved and made things worse. He blackmailed me that if I didn’t do what he said he would tell my friend to get a restraining order on me. I didn’t talk to her but my boss constantly said” screw what she thinks go to the gym who cares if gets upset seeing you”. So I did not give her the proper space she needed but was blackmailed and dragged to go near her by my boss.

We saw each other at a bar and made up with this giant hug. Talked to her that week and I probably rushed it, but didn’t feel right. That Saturday she said to someone I can’t handle being friends with him because he changes his mind to much and something else. So this girl told her to take me off of social media. When I found out I was furious because during space all I had was social media to remind me of her. We got into a fight and last thing I sent her was happy you are gone life will be so much easier without you. That wasn’t directed at her but drama from my boss and others getting involved who shouldn’t of.

We saw each other at this persons birthday dinner. My friend told me that she was sticking up for me. Its weird because part of her knows I would never hurt her and part of her thinks I will.
 
Why was your boss involved? Did he happen to know this girl as well? Or he only knew her through you? And how long had you been friends with her before this all happened? It seems like you left a lot out. All I can say is that I have cut people out of my life after telling them things I wish I hadn't/opening up too much about past traumas. And I never went back. But it's hard to tell if that's what this girl is doing, because honestly, this whole story makes no sense to me.
 
Thanks for giving more of the complete picture, @Statsattack - it really is helpful.
The thing that is weird looking back on it is we were always open, honest and real with one another. She is probably the first and only person I could tell anything to without feeling shamed or embarrassed. We really did trust each other and had this quote about being on the same team. We weren’t dating but it felt like we were. Could be chemistry or could be boundary issues my guess is a huge mix of both.
I'm going to challenge how open, honest, and real you were with each other - just because of the 'we weren't dating, but felt like we were' comment. It reminds me of a relationship I had for awhile that really was initiated as a combination of, we were strong work-buddies and got along, and then he was having problems in his marriage. Our friendship got very open very fast, and had that 'no secrets' feeling to it, which isn't actually true...the one thing we weren't talking about was exactly what the two of us were doing spending almost all our time together, but not 'dating'. You and she never talked about that part. So it might help you to keep developing a more balanced assessment of the friendship - it doesn't mean that she wasn't a really special person in my life, but there was a big topic you were both avoiding.
To fill everyone in I have dealt with a lot of abuse from my mom along with forms of being abandoned by friends and parents. Because of those things I was scared out of my mind to have my friend leave.
And, this makes a lot of sense as to why you were avoiding challenging any aspect of the friendship. When a big chunk of things are going right, even amazingly, it's hard to talk about the smaller chunk that is being avoided - especially when that smaller chunk could turn into conflict, and could dissolve the relationship. It feels safer to stay quiet.
That following Monday she seemed more distant. Needed her help with something (part of the story I don’t feel like getting into details) and she wasn’t able to and got upset at her. Next week she said she needed space and was confused. I said an insensitive things such as let me know when you are ready because I am.
OK, so you got upset twice in a row. You were counting on her to help you, and she couldn't - and you got mad. Then, she opened up the bigger question about what was really going on between the two of you, and you answered it with 'well, as far as I'm concerned, I'm in a relationship with you. So let me know when you are ready to get on board'.
We saw each other at a bar and made up with this giant hug. Talked to her that week and I probably rushed it, but didn’t feel right. That Saturday she said to someone I can’t handle being friends with him because he changes his mind to much and something else. So this girl told her to take me off of social media. When I found out I was furious because during space all I had was social media to remind me of her. We got into a fight and last thing I sent her was happy you are gone life will be so much easier without you. That wasn’t directed at her but drama from my boss and others getting involved who shouldn’t of.
I don't think the making up at the bar was actually making up. It might have felt like it to you, but it wasn't to her - or else, things would have started mending. Instead, she told a friend that you were too much for her to handle right now. She shut the door on your access via social media, you became furious, and gave her a big 'f*ck you'.

Without even taking into account that she's got rape and PTSD in her history - this is a pretty classic story of a too-intimate friendship with undiscussed boundaries taking a bad turn and not recovering. 'Give me space' means, actually 'give me space' - not, 'but keep checking up on me'. When you lost the social media contact, you were really angry. Your anger indicates that you believe you had a right to that contact, somehow - that something you deserved access to was taken from you.

And you likely believe that you deserved that access because, in the past, things had seemed great between the two of you. But you need to remember - things weren't as they seemed. You were both avoiding the main topic. Handy hint: when something seems perfect (as far as relationships go) - it most likely isn't. When we get to that first bump in the road, that's when the relationship really reveals itself. You needed her help with something, she let you down, and you felt bad and made sure she knew it. Honesty, @Statsattack - that's enough to break any relationship in it's early phases.

The stuff about your boss doesn't make any sense, but it's also irrelevant. The only thing it speaks to is how intensely you were feeling badly, and how desperate you were to try and get back to the time when you and she were OK.

But time doesn't actually go backwards - and I know you know that, but one major thing you've been hung up on is not understanding how it could go from wonderful to broken. And from what you've written here, two things are pretty clear - one, it wasn't totally wonderful, because there was avoidance going on - and two, it broke down in fairly obvious steps. She's not here, so it's hard to evaluate her part in it; she was also avoiding the realness during the 'wonderful' time, she let you down (maybe), she maybe has a habit of getting drunk and wanting to be rescued (that's a big guess on my part), and she's avoidant of confrontation (pretty normal for much of the population).

On your side: you have some work to do before you are ready to have healthy relationships, and you seem to know that; you have some anger management that goes along with that work, and as long as you are motivated, you'll be able to conquer all that. And whatever it was with this woman - it's really, really over, and my honest advice is - shut the door and move on. Build a new social circle. Change gyms, or make sure you don't see her. Not because she wants you to not be there, but because you can't handle seeing her yet, it's still too raw for you.

Real space. Real distance. And there isn't any reason to be thinking about her motivations anymore. You're only hurting yourself by continuing to think about her.

Can you plunge yourself into a brand-new hobby? Get on meetup, try something totally new with a whole new group of people? Think about whether you'd like to get a pet? Take a vacation? I'm serious. All these things could help, a lot.
 
Thank you. Understanding more than ever how big of a issue this is, and after I take care of my own...
I must admit I'm really struggling with it myself, I can't bare to be touched now I just freeze, my boyfriend totally doesn't understand as he says I was ok before and keeps constantly mithering or trying it on (didn't help me mentally whatsoever)....drink numbs you, you don't feel, it masks it so that's why I drank....hope this kind of helps, not really sure if it will.
 
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