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You should go back to your country
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somerandomguy
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Wow, that sucks. Screw them. I don't blame you for getting aggressive. I don't see how you could just stand there and take being insulted either.
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Wish I could answer with humour. Giving the right piece of sentence... someday I might be able to do that, rather than yelling around furiously
Mach123
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I was just a Yankee in Texas does that count? Now I'm in Phoenix but everyone here is from somewhere else. Why don't you stay? I'm sure you and I would get along famously! : )
Muttly
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Ugh, I hate this so much. As a white guy, I apologize for the *ssholes. I don't suppose that makes it any better. If the person is white, and it's the US, it would be great to tell them to go back to their country. Not saying you should handle it any differently, your response is completely justified it's just the sheer ridiculousness of comments like you got.
Mach123
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Please don't ever say this. What you think because you're white you have a corner on prejudice? You're kidding right?
Haha, rant away.
And sorry they made you feel bad. And sorry people suck. I’m a native of my country, so I rather seldom experience racism/cultural protectionism and easily brush it off. (I’m white, in a white country), but it happens. I was spat at by some immigrant teens calling me a whore when I was out with my kid once. For the sole reason I’m white and thus probably a non-muslim, I guess? I once walked with a southern European man near a mosque, and some bearded men came over to him shaming him for having a white girlfriend (he probably looked middle eastern to them, thus they mistook him for one of their own), and some people don’t listen to me if I tell such stories thinking «you don’t know what racism is, cause you are priviledged», that sucks, too.
Now, as a woman, I know the sentiment of «men don’t know our struggles, cause they don’t have to feel that underdog feeling when faced with sexist comments», so I sort of understand that not all racism/sexism is created equal. If obviously comes with an added layer of feeling inferior when someone from the society declared master race/gender/culture puts the society declared lower race/gender/culture down.
But therein lies my point. The idiot racists/sexists of any color/gender is mostly responsible for their stupid prejudice. The receiver however, has to carry the burden of tackling it. And tackling it gets harder the liwer society has ranked us.
I know people easily will call me a victim blamer for saying this, but i know you’re cool, and I’m a firm believer in free speech, even for idiots/ignorants. And idiots WILL say stupid things. Thus we all have to learn to tackle the feelings imposed by idiots the best we can.
A man or a white person has to tackle that people seem to think it’s ok to be racist/sexist with the «stronger part» without getting angry with the unfairness. A woman or a colored person in a white society or a gay person or a foreign person has to tackle the hurt over an unspoken hierarchy being used against them.
You seem tough and able to judge the idiot an idiot.
But today you seem to struggle with the hurt over this unspoken hierarchy.
It is ok. We can’t solve in externally in one day. So all we can do is to correct the ignorants when we feel generous, ignore when we don’t and otherwise fix our own internal landscape, where we unfortunately all too often self-identify as lower. Even when we consciously know we are not.
I don’t know if this helped at all, and I’m not very politically correct, I guess, but I believe in observing reality rather than pretending, and I know you to be that way too, so I decided to remind you of it. I just find such breakdowns useful myself, when that sinking feeling of inferiority that is pushed upon me by ignorants hit me (as a woman, not as white). Even whennI know truth.
No deep political meaning or great advice in this. I know you already know. Just wanted to show up and be there with you. And maybe tell you «that idiot doesn’t know you. If they did, they’d probably not feel the way they do about you.» :-)
Cheers.
PS. If that didn’t help, then judge the person telling you to go home. Something tells me you are far more valuable both economically and otherwise to the country you live in than they are. It’s seldom the people who actually COULD claim superiority that say such things... Though it happens that even idiots rise to the top without learning, I believe only those who feel inferior grab for the superior race/culture/gender card in such a petty way... You now can pity him/her, lol.
And sorry they made you feel bad. And sorry people suck. I’m a native of my country, so I rather seldom experience racism/cultural protectionism and easily brush it off. (I’m white, in a white country), but it happens. I was spat at by some immigrant teens calling me a whore when I was out with my kid once. For the sole reason I’m white and thus probably a non-muslim, I guess? I once walked with a southern European man near a mosque, and some bearded men came over to him shaming him for having a white girlfriend (he probably looked middle eastern to them, thus they mistook him for one of their own), and some people don’t listen to me if I tell such stories thinking «you don’t know what racism is, cause you are priviledged», that sucks, too.
Now, as a woman, I know the sentiment of «men don’t know our struggles, cause they don’t have to feel that underdog feeling when faced with sexist comments», so I sort of understand that not all racism/sexism is created equal. If obviously comes with an added layer of feeling inferior when someone from the society declared master race/gender/culture puts the society declared lower race/gender/culture down.
But therein lies my point. The idiot racists/sexists of any color/gender is mostly responsible for their stupid prejudice. The receiver however, has to carry the burden of tackling it. And tackling it gets harder the liwer society has ranked us.
I know people easily will call me a victim blamer for saying this, but i know you’re cool, and I’m a firm believer in free speech, even for idiots/ignorants. And idiots WILL say stupid things. Thus we all have to learn to tackle the feelings imposed by idiots the best we can.
A man or a white person has to tackle that people seem to think it’s ok to be racist/sexist with the «stronger part» without getting angry with the unfairness. A woman or a colored person in a white society or a gay person or a foreign person has to tackle the hurt over an unspoken hierarchy being used against them.
You seem tough and able to judge the idiot an idiot.
But today you seem to struggle with the hurt over this unspoken hierarchy.
It is ok. We can’t solve in externally in one day. So all we can do is to correct the ignorants when we feel generous, ignore when we don’t and otherwise fix our own internal landscape, where we unfortunately all too often self-identify as lower. Even when we consciously know we are not.
I don’t know if this helped at all, and I’m not very politically correct, I guess, but I believe in observing reality rather than pretending, and I know you to be that way too, so I decided to remind you of it. I just find such breakdowns useful myself, when that sinking feeling of inferiority that is pushed upon me by ignorants hit me (as a woman, not as white). Even whennI know truth.
No deep political meaning or great advice in this. I know you already know. Just wanted to show up and be there with you. And maybe tell you «that idiot doesn’t know you. If they did, they’d probably not feel the way they do about you.» :-)
Cheers.
PS. If that didn’t help, then judge the person telling you to go home. Something tells me you are far more valuable both economically and otherwise to the country you live in than they are. It’s seldom the people who actually COULD claim superiority that say such things... Though it happens that even idiots rise to the top without learning, I believe only those who feel inferior grab for the superior race/culture/gender card in such a petty way... You now can pity him/her, lol.
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Yes, absolutely..thanks lillesnille.
Thank you all for reading this...I felt my reaction was somewhat “unclever“.
Sorry, not muchbwords left right now.
Thats horrible Lillesnille...
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Muttly
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@Mach123 No, I don't think I have a corner on prejudice. And I apologize if what I said offended you or others. I have heard and read many people of color ask white people to apologize and heard good and powerful reasons why that was stated. So, I responded based on that. Again, if people of color find that wrong or ignorant, I stand corrected.
mumstheword
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Yeah, a white person in many an Asian, African or Middle Eastern or Arab dominated country could and many, many times do, experience racism and scapegoating because they are perceived as different or "Other".
White men actually can and do experience sexism also, in very hurtful and dangerous ways, as well.
I live in a "black" area of town and I am white and we get called "white c*nts" despite being helpful neighbors and not at all racist ourselves (Australian black people, not African or American - Aboriginal).
So no, racism is not the thing that white people do, in fact, "white" countries tend to be much more inclusive, on the whole than non-white countries, many of them anyway.
So I'm not going to apologize for being white anymore, enough with the white shame for me, that's just racist itself.
I'm sorry that happened to you PURUSHA, I think it is kinda retarded to say that sort of thing, and you shouldn't have to put up with it.
No one can help or choose what racial genetic bloodline they come from or what sex they were born and being treated shittily for it, is stupid, retarded and mean, in my opinion.
White men actually can and do experience sexism also, in very hurtful and dangerous ways, as well.
I live in a "black" area of town and I am white and we get called "white c*nts" despite being helpful neighbors and not at all racist ourselves (Australian black people, not African or American - Aboriginal).
So no, racism is not the thing that white people do, in fact, "white" countries tend to be much more inclusive, on the whole than non-white countries, many of them anyway.
So I'm not going to apologize for being white anymore, enough with the white shame for me, that's just racist itself.
I'm sorry that happened to you PURUSHA, I think it is kinda retarded to say that sort of thing, and you shouldn't have to put up with it.
No one can help or choose what racial genetic bloodline they come from or what sex they were born and being treated shittily for it, is stupid, retarded and mean, in my opinion.
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DharmaGirl
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I tell them to go back to their countries. If they are not Native Americans, then they are the descendants of immigrants. People don't like being served what they are serving.
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