News Human Rights For Sex Offenders

[Sasha]

Honesty, I'm surprised this thread is even here. We may all be adults and recovering, but it's like asking survivors of 911 if we should pamper OBL (when he was alive). It's a triggering and anger producing and probably should be listed on some type of human rights forum

Sorry, but i think asking us survivors these questions is sort of awful.

 

[Girl3]

Nearly all of the prisoner related medical work is done by board certified doctors and dentists in regional hospitals near the jails/prisons. If the closest hospital that accepts the state's payment scale is a medical school then residents (which are MD's already but getting further training in a specialty) do the work based on their skill level vis-a-vis the prisoner's ailment.

The regional hospital where I am takes care of the county jail, the Maximum Security Prison, and two juvenile detention centers. None of us at the hospital are students. When I have medical students rotating through from one of the four closest medical schools, then they get to do those tasks that they get to do on ANY patient, including the ones with private insurance. Medical care for prisoners is as good as everyone else gets. That was true when I taught academically as well.

Prison doctors by the same token are regular MD's that are contracted to provide general care at the prisons at certain times/days. Otherwise, Nurse Practitioners provide the day to day care. How good each prison doc is varies just like it does in the real world. I have a friend who is a very good dentist who provides the dental checkups for several prisons because he feels it's important morally to do that.

 

[Girl3]

So what I meant to say is that I believe they should get basic accomodations - food, bed, and treat them if they are sick. I don't believe they should get special food, cable TV, or gymnasium time. Doing jumping jacks in a cell, pushups, situps - those constitute excercise.

As for rehabilitation - sex offenders have the highest recidivism rate after serial killers. If you don't think anything is wrong with you, you cannot be rehabbed.

 

[Loveneverfails]

As for rehabilitation - sex offenders have the highest recidivism rate after serial killers. If you don't think anything is wrong with you, you cannot be rehabbed.

You hit the nail on the head, Girl3. Very well put.

 

[Nicolette]

Sorry, but i think asking us survivors these questions is sort of awful.

Hi Sasha

I agree to some degree however not everyone here is a survivor of that type of abuse nor do you have to participate in anything you don't feel comfortable with. I personally hate political discussions as life has only shown me they end up in disaster yet every morning Anthony is talking back at the TV in relation to politics. I don't think he should be prevented having his voice and discussing what he wants to just because of what has happened to me. If he sat me down at the table and said "tonight we are discussing politics" whether you like it or not is different.

I think the thread title gives enough information to stay away if these types of discussions bother you. Also, not everyone who has been abused has the same reaction as you plus I believe this to be discussion - not a questionnaire or poll.

 

[Sasha]

You have a valid point. However, politics is not known to cause trauma, as sexual assault does. Because it is such a personal topic, it draws me in. But, you're probably right, it's best for me to not read this anymore. Definitely takes me to a place I'd prefer not to go. Thanks Nicolette, sometimes it takes another person to remind me of what's best,

 

[Nicolette]

I was involved in a traumatic incident as a young girl due to drunk family members arguing over politics and it getting physical- I was hurt and the memory is etched into my mind as very frightening. So in my mind politics could = injury/trauma. :O_o:

 

[Sasha]

Politics can really bring out the ugly side of people. It's really sad. Our world seems to be becoming more polarized, so there are a lot of upset people. I understand more and can understand your statement better. I'm really sorry you experienced that Nicolette. Thanks for sharing that with me.

 

[Girl3]

Personally I have to deal with all kinds of people including people who are criminals, including some of the worst kinds of criminals. And the victims - which honestly trigger me more than the criminals do.

I have to put aside my past and just take care of the bad guys: they are humans with 'rights'. Just because I abhor what someone has done doesn't mean I can translate that into their care. I treat all patients exactly the same - as if it were my family member - that keeps me from doing anything questionable.

It still doesn't mean I have to talk sweetly to them or molly-coddle them....

 

[anthony]

Ah... that medical responsibility coming out in you Girl3... :tup:

Thankfully, I don't have that... :coffee:

 

[Girl3]

Oddly enough - if i had the choice between revenge against the adults who raped/sexually used me and just having those memories erased - I'd have the memories erased.

I don't want to hurt other people. I would like for people to not hurt me or each other. But since the bad guys persist, there must be punishment because they simply cannot be allowed to go on defiling children. And if there needs to be punishment, then those who want to do the punishing should take on that task.

 

[Britt.f7]

I'm not sure why I'm posting this, or what I want from replies (if there are any).

I work in the field of criminal justice - I chose this before recovering memories and it has certainly been challenging to start remembering, healing and having therapy for what happened to me, while working in an environment that brings me into contact with offenders and offender management. The personal contact is -thankfully - limited, but it's there. Work on policy and written complaints/comments is occasional, but when it happens it's a big problem for me.

I have a lot of conflict over this. I think everyone should have human rights.

Hashi, base on what you have experienced it is quite normal to feel the way you do. You are still going to view those complaints and handle them accordingly, even though they bring up turmoil in you. You have a difficult job. It's okay to feel this moral dilemma. You wouldn't be human if you didn't. I'm not going to discuss what is right or wrong for these prisoners, because I don't believe that is really what you need to hear. To a lesser degree there are plenty of people out there doing jobs that they don't necessarily agree with all the time. It's minor compared to what you are dealing with, but it is something to think about. As long as you follow protocol, you should be fine. Doesn't mean you won't have regret, especially because you feel empathy with the victims. This doesn't make you "bad" or immoral. It is good that you have a conscience.

Regarding PTSD effecting our work life. I worked in a pediatrician's office when I was in my 20's and going through the worse of my PTSD. I was still fumbling through all of it and it wasn't easy. Working at the pediatrician's office, having kids strip down, taking their weight, height, everything was easy. I could handle it. Then, one day, I had a male teenager. He had to strip down to his underwear. I went in there to measure him. I felt beyond uncomfortable. He was taller then me. He seemed like a nice boy. He did nothing to cause the panic in me, but I didn't want to be there. He was the age of the boys who attacked me. I got out of there as soon as I could. Needless to say, I did not last long in that job. Rationally I know I was not in danger, that there was nothing horrifying beyond that door.

Just a note, America's jails try to house the sex offenders separate from the general population. Especially the pedophiles. I'm not going to get into my opinion on that since I don't think that matters.