Cured With Ayahuasca And Medicinal Plants.

[Deleted member 26214]

I will first tell My PTSD, story.
Somewhat embarrassing, but I will.
I did a refractory surgery, who caused damage to my vision. Hoping to fix it did another one, which put me in severe extreme pain for 2.5 years. Miraculously I have been cured with honey. I did it respectable places, paid well. It was medical negligence caused by greed in my view.
It started about 7 years ago.
I felt it all, anger, sorrow, helplessness, jealousy, shame, guilt, fear, deception, etc.
I went to a therapist a few times.
She has made me realize the importance of family, and surrounding people on my healing and well being.
Also I understood it is O.K. that I feel the way I do since it was a terrible experience.
Then I started to take medicinal plants, daily, and do Ayahuasca sessions alone, every week or two.
It was very healing, and gave me a lot of insight and strength, but over and over again, I realized the deep pain and disappointment is still there. Like Ayahuasca couldn't heal it.
It lasted a year I think.
At one time for sometime I was feeling especially negative.
I did Ayahuasca session. For the first time, I combined with 2 Datura seeds.
I felt the negative side of me is being integrated into me. I have put my hands over my eyes, and felt my relation with them which was difficult since a child, has been healed.
I saw two pillars which represented Ayahausca, and spiral one going in between them, which was the negativity represented by Datura, integrating into me.
After this ceremony, I have decided, that there is no cure. The emotional pain, the deception and physical damage.
I have decided to deliberately try to put this aside, and focus on the positive things of life.
Gradually, I felt I have been cured from PTSD.
I still feel the pain, but it doesn't have that grasp on me, and I can go ahead, and focus on other issues of my life.

 

[Deleted member 20280]

Gradually, I felt I have been cured from PTSD.

If you been cured, I want some, as would every sufferer on this forum please. Coz trust me and I dont mean this in a bad way. There is no cure! (If there were the finder would be one of the richest people alive)

Laurie

 

[Deleted member 26214]

First of all I wish you best.
I have been cured, at least I see it this way.
It doesn't fit everyone either, and might be dangerous even for some.
I don't say that this is plants are a magic pill that cures everyone.
For me it works.
I am talking about an intensive process, that I have been through. I have put my heart into it.
The plants were just helping to facilitate it.
The plants do heal, but you need to keep your mind positive, and try again and again.
It is a slow, and at times, painful process but very profound.
I talked to people that could help. I sang, I cried and screamed sometimes helplessly. I Created connections, and focused my attention on healing.
It is not like a pill that the doctor gives you and your are healed just by taking it.
The healing was a gradual process. Forgiveness, less shame, less guilt, etc.
In the end, the magic of healing did happen.
If I understand your view correctly, if find it very depressing, and I don't know what is the argument for it.
Healing has stages. In which stage do you not believe? So for example one is forgiveness.
One is becoming less ashamed. One is becoming less afraid and anxious in different situations.
So by saying I have been cured I mean that I do still feel hurt, anxious, even jealous.( Anger nearly disappeared by the way). It that it is under control and doesn't
have that grasp. I can function normally, as before,and even better then before, be available to love ones, think positively
, and focus on other important things in life. It doesn't overtake me.
So I will explain a bit the way the plants work.
First of all They help you see how you feel, and the causes of it.
You can feel your pain, or anger. It is not just feeling in order to dwell in it, it is feeling, in order for the anger to be healed and released, feeling withing the container of love and compassion.
They also help you fill you mind in positive thoughts and emotions, that help the process, such as faith.

 

[darrenS]

Datura ...are you crazy ....seriously you say your cured and you take datura ....im sure not many know the full extent of datura ...but cmon you think your curred and your playing with extreme danger ...datura can cause you to act out your hallucinations, it can also lead to permament blindness, it is not a drug to even talk about it is so dangerous, really and you do a full ceremony by yourself .....mmm...you know what i think ..i think you have far more serious problems than you care to admit

 

[darrenS]

honestly dude no offence but i think your FOS

 

[Justmehere]

Your trauma that qualified for a later PTSD diagnosis was bad lasik (refractory) eye surgery? Did you nearly die during the surgery?

 

[Deleted member 20280]

Hmm Very Salient Point @Justmehere .

I am curious now as well

 

[Deleted member 26214]

About Datura, I took just 2 seeds. Very reasonable dosage. And it is an Ayahuasca additive in this dosage.
I am well aware of its dangers.
It was enough for healing though.
And whatever mistakes I did in the process, you don't mistake if you don't try.
I find some of the comments insulting.
I am opening my heart with honesty on intimate and embarrassing issues, mainly in order to open the eyes of
others that the possibility exists. I don't think ignorance will help anyone.
I don't say anyone should do exactly the same as I did, but offering the possibility.
And I will be the first to say that it can be dangerous, and care should be taken.
It is definitely not appropriate for everyone.
It is true though, that I need much more healing, apart from PTSD. And this I will gladly do.
I find that curing PTSD, helped me uncover more healing I need to.
I understand the worry of people. I have done what my heart told me, and have no regret.
I am talking about medicines that have been used successfully for hundreds of years.
And as I say ,I have been cured so for me this is enough proof.
I would expect less judgment, and more questioning and comments that try to understand.
The reason by the way I took Datura, is that I understood from a dream, that it wanted to work with me. I am sorry, I will not be able to explain this to everyone, but I have learned to trust this signs, since they work many times.
And again it might be helpful I think to stay open minded to different views, because you can learn. Knowing everything might not lead you far.

 

[digger]

more questioning and comments that try to understand

@Justmehere asked a very relevant question

 

[shimmerz]

I am unclear here as to what the PTSD was from. I have heard great things about Ayahuasca in so far as PTSD, but this doesn't seem right. One shouldn't have to take something over and over and over again. Every week or two? With Datura?

I am very open to these types of treatments so am not cynical about them to be honest. But these postings are not so well laid out.

What research did you do before taking these things? Were you informed as to what each of the substances would do to you? What to expect? What the possible problems with ingesting them would be? Did you have a safe person with you? I am not certain how you can claim to be cured of PTSD when I can't actually see that you had it. Too many holes here, although I do believe the Ayahuasca, if administered properly can absolutely help those with PTSD.

It is a shame this posting is so scattered. I am not certain if it is an ESL problem or that the OP is .... scattered.

 

[Deleted member 1860]

I think you were misdiagnosed. Ptsd is a helluva lot more than feeling bad and having negative thoughts. You don't even mention quite a few required symptoms for the disorder.

Why do we keep getting these "cure" posts? None of them have any real substance.

 

[darrenS]

Ayahuasca is far different from Datura , and to promote its use as a possible cure for others is incredibly irresponsible , have you any idea of what can happen to people taking datura ? seriously this is one drug you should not be promoting and to say it could help in curing ptsd is dangerous, datura trips can be very very traumatic and it is one hallucinogen that people can not discern reality from- i suggest you don't promote treatments unless they have a very good write up and extensive research to back them