News Another Shooting In The Us

[Whitneys story]

JMHO. A minimum 2 shootings a week, 9 burglaries in 2 months in my immediate area!

Guns do not kill, people do. You will never get all the guns away from the elements.

Video games that are so realistic are played by 6 yr. olds and who allows this! Who has guns in the home that are not locked up?

Find me one instance of a shooting where there is not a history of violence and or mental instability.

Owners of guns need to be accountable! As of today gun sales have skyrocketed!

 

[ms spock]

I've only read the 1st 25 posts here BUT, can anyone stop arguing and possibly focus on the little children who lost their lives.

The reason I am talking gun control is because I am thinking of the little children that lost their lives. We don't have these events in Australia because we don't have the same level of fear in our media or guns in our homes.

Everyone expresses their grief and their shock in their own way. Some people are emotional and some people are practical. Each method is valid - different but valid.

And this is in the "News, Politics and Debates" so it is to be expected that news will be debated and considered through a political lens.

WHY. WHY WHY WHY

I would suggest because of a lack gun control, the overarch gun culture and so much fear in American media.

 

[ms spock]

...we had a team of security guards patrolling all day long,

We don't have anything like this. It must be in another world that you are all living in.

 

[ms spock]

This is just my opinion, but the US doesn't need better security in schools, it doesn't need teams of security guards patrolling every school, it doesn't need armed sheriffs, it needs completely different gun laws.

Until the US change their gun laws, and their gun culture, there will continue to be mass shootings. I understand that there is a difference in (gun law) culture between the UK and the US. We don't bear arms in the UK, we don't even arm all our Police Officers. Yes, we have illegal gun crime. Only we don't have multiple shootings, in our schools, our cinemas or our shopping malls. Yes we have had the odd tragic incident. But they are rare. Not monthly.

In Australia we are the same.

 

[ms spock]

I can say prayers for the deceased victims, but my own experience facing death at the hands of a psychopath left me wishing many times since that I had died rather than survived, I'm ashamed to say.

I have had the same experience, growing up in a physically abusive childhood.

 

[anni]

This is an exit on Rt. 84, smack in the middle between Danville, Conneticut and Hartford. Been passing it on the way to Maine ever since 84 was built, or stopping there to get gas- mini-mall and gas, diner there somewhere. Sobering, sobering now, going to have to figure out something like dropping a wreath in the water like they do at the Pearl Harbor memorial- something.

These threads are bound to merge, re-cross, meld- it's inevitable. Listen- I'm a gun-owner, have watched with horror as this country has been taken over by those who call for MORE violence instead of less in answer to these events. It now transpires these children and women were killed by a rifle whose ban expired, wasn't renewed. The kids weren't much taller than this killing machine, whose intent is just that- to kill people. If that's where we are, mine are gone and this is exactly, exactly the memorial which these victims deserve, Good Grief. It's not torqing the thread into a political discussion, it's THE discussion. In all the flowers left, candles lit, services conducted, time to also disarm for these beautiful children who will never smile at their parents again, not lock-n-load.

 

[Innordinate]

My daughter says we need guns for home defense.

I imagine that's why the killers mother had handguns. For home defense. :(

 

[Innordinate]

We don't have these events in Australia because we don't have the same level of fear in our media or guns in our homes.

We have the odd shooting in Canada too. Mostly stabbings, though, by drunk kids and adults, people off their meds. The death rate in the city where I live closest too (also the murder capital of Canada last year) was 27 people. For the entire year. Only 4 of those involved guns, and those 4 killings were gang related.

Find me one instance of a shooting where there is not a history of violence and or mental instability

The shooting that just happened, the guy had no criminal record, no run ins with police before. Same with the guy who killed all those students at Virginia Tech, no history of violence. Mental instability sure. Show me a criminal that isn't in some way mentally unstable.

Instead of the saying guns don't kill people, people kill people. It should be:

People kill people, people kill more people faster with guns.

but I also want security companies employed and better gate systems. Stricter pick up/drop off measures and video cameras at all access points.

This sounds more like a jail.

I know that sounds extreme, but I think we're to the point where it is necessary.

The US is to the point that you all might as well lock yourselves up in jail and let the criminals have the rest. Personally I think your society is at the point that it's time to destroy all your personal fire arms.

There is only one reason to ever own a handgun. That's to kill somebody. Target practice isn't an excuse. If you want to do target practice go get an airsoft gun.

How many of you with guns really think you can pull the trigger faster than a criminal that breaks into your house with a gun? And that's assuming you keep it under your pillow. If you own a handgun and keep it locked up for safety, what do you even think the chances are that you're going to get to that safe, unlock it, put your weapon together and load it before the criminal has figured out what you're doing and takes you out first? So, virtually, you don't really have a gun for protection, just a concept of one that's more likely to get you killed than keep you alive. Also, in a stand off keep in mind, he's there to do harm. You would hesitate, he/she would not.

In what situation would you find yourself in that you would be able calmly go and get your handgun to threaten someones life?

 

[ms spock]

My father threatened to kill me, my sisters and my brothers and my mother and then himself. If we had had guns in the house I wouldn't be typing this. He was threatening to bring guns home from work when I got the school involved.

 

[Meadowsweet]

The reason I am talking gun control is because I am thinking of the little children that lost their lives.

Everyone expresses their grief and their shock in their own way. Some people are emotional and some people are practical.

This is also why I expressed my anger at this occurring by talking about gun control.

It's a cry for something to change.

 

[Loveneverfails]

How many of you with guns really think you can pull the trigger faster than a criminal that breaks into your house with a gun?

I honestly don't know, because I don't and never will own a gun. I understand your anger because I'm the one living in the country where violence is a reality. I live in Arizona, where people are allowed to carry their guns in open view. They walk into gas stations and other places of business with it holstered at their waist. There are signs on office windows that say weapons are prohibited in that particular area. I and others are so used to it now that we barely bat an eye. But I am sorry to burst the bubble of all people here. The US isn't the UK or Australia, stricter gun laws are a possibility(one I agree needs to happen) but disarming the populace altogether will not happen any time soon.

If we take guns away there will still be violence. Home made explosives are often a weapon of choice when guns aren't an option for psychopaths. Let's think about how many people died in building bombings as well. I am in no way excusing gun violence, we do have a genuine problem here with guns. But it's not correct to say it's the only problem. There are many factors that lead to massacres like this one.

 

[Dallas]

The US has become a third world, immoral, bankrupt society (you can't even call it a society anymore). It has nothing to do with guns being legalized. It is all about no one having moral values, and letting evil fill their lives. It is morally decadent and corrupt here, evil is prevalent everywhere. People have turned their back on God.

Sincerely,
Dallas.