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Being Chronically Avoidant Of Emotional Closeness Means...

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finished editing my prev reply - and said about the whole building a false person in my head thing.
hope it's some use to you.

the bottom line suggestion is that I'd probably have found a link to "the mindful way through depression" audiobook, useful back then, to get the ruminating and imagining under control.

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He keeps messaging to tell me he has asked "how are you doing?" but "not how was your day?" - and he has actually never asked "how are you doing?"

He's a crap liar to the degree is almost funny. I mean our entire relationship has been FB written messages and it's pretty easy to read back and see what was and wasn't said.

It's besides the point too... I'm not going to argue it with him.

I just realized, this is getting triggering. The man who raped me said he was doing what he was doing (raping me) because he knew I was broken and wanted to heal me. He was a very twisted soul and I tried to fight him off and screamed no and did all I could and it wasn't enough...

Ever since then, "I will help you" has been a hard phrase to hear from even safe and healthy people.

This guy is continuing to FB message me and is begging for me to respond. Telling me he wanted to vist to have a fun day and that he thinks many people have hurt me but he wont be another person to push me.

I'm not even responding and he is sending messages full of frowns now. No words. Just frowns.
 
This now seems delusional
Can I suggest you pause right there, before you head off in that direction?

I know your life has had more than it's fair share of toxic relationships. YOU have not caused them. I'm willing to entertain the idea that you might have some kind of role in attracting the wrong sorts of people. Not because that's what you actually want (much less is it something you deserve!). Just that, not realizing what we're doing, we sometimes mess this stuff up. You're making progress here, really you are!

So, he could actually have some sort of mental disorder. Probably not? My T says that someone can be overly self involved without crossing the line into narcissist, for example.

What you DO know. 1) He's self involved. 2) He apparently has a lot of self worth. I'm saying that because he seems pretty convinced that there's no WAY you could not want a relationship with HIM. 3) He's not much on taking "No" for an answer. 4) Some or all of this could be the way he is NOW and it could be the way he IS, or some combination. (reddish flag?)

To me, that adds up to thinking he's not great relationship material right now and you're correct in thinking that.

Where do you want to go from there? Here's a thought, Just say "No thanks" as you have, and then ignore him. Don't defend your position. It doesn't need to be defended, it's fine. Don't try to convince him you're right. You ARE right, but he's not going to listen and what difference does it make anyway? Just think to yourself, "Well, THAT was interesting!" and drive on. Think of it as an experiment. (Might be harder than you think!)

I'm sure you have an assortment of problems with relationships. Both avoiding bad ones and not avoiding good ones. A lot of us have similar issues. This is NOT because there's anything wrong with YOU! This is just part of the process of getting better and recovering from the stuff you've had to deal with in the past. Physical therapy for the brain. Nothing more than that.
 
As we heal, we may barely even notice that we are changing the way we deal with people. It is uncomfortable (for me, anyway), in a good kind of way. Like 'WOW, I actually SEE what is happening here now!'

It's good, you have found out why this is all triggery for you. Another trigger comes to consciousness. Now you can work it properly - assert yourself and that perhaps can show you that although the words were similar to the rapists words, this situation you have much more control over. Choices. You have choices now.

BTW, I used to 'help' people all the time. I don't so much now. I used to project what they needed .... *heavy sigh*. It was meant to be a kind gesture but was very misguided. Sometimes when we can't help ourselves, we try desperately to help other people. Doesn't make anyone bad. Or dangerous. Or anything except broken in that way. Keep going. No judgement. Just 'no' and move onwards. Sounds like you are doing a great job.
 
Wow, you all have great insights - thank you @shimmerz

I'm kinda processing it all still, and trying to get and keep myself grounded.

He kinda blew up my FB inbox with messages... I can't effectively respond right now, and I told him that. Exactly that. He's kinda freaking out... Pushing in a really anxious way. He's assuming I can't respond for a million reasons that are not actually the case. He is asking if I'm having a serious health provinces and all this stuff. He is begging for a response, so he knows I'm ok and he wants to know the real reason I'm upset with him. It must be that I have a serious health problem. And he is expressing his comment to stand by me through that.

I'm not having a serious health issue, I am not doing all the things he is asking if I am doing...

Now he is telling me I should own a gun to keep myself safe. What? All in doing is not responding so I can deal with the rest of life.

For maybe the first time in my life, I don't feel like to need to anxiously explain and defend my boundary...

Because usually, I do. I usually feel like I can't have a limit without endless justification and explanations for it.

I need to do this more often. Not the boundaries per se, but the letting go of explaining it away.

I will send him a message to say,
"I'm ok, please stop contacting me and give me space."
 
Wow. That guy is seriously needy.

I always thought this was a chick thing, but I had a Similar situation occur here a while back.

One date, one single peck kiss and a hug on the beach and this bloke.was sending me expensive gifts, talking about me meeting his kids (a big no no here, we never do the kid meeting til after 6 months) discussing us moving in together, and the real freak out, telling me he loved me.

I made up a bs story about bikers and my ex and how jealous and dangerous he was and then blocked him from contacting me via any means at all.

It sounds like yours might need the same message sent?
Some blokes, their egos just don't do friends
 
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