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Better off without therapy?

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@LilyRose are you really going to lose your job etc., if you refuse therapy by one of their therapists? Particularly if you are certain you do not need to have the therapy? That is a big imposition for an employer to have on you. I think.
 
@LilyRose are you really going to lose your job etc., if you refuse therapy by...

yes. if i don't do it, they will say i am not cooperating to get better. at the moment i am on 50% disability. i will lose that. with that they will say i have to work fulltime without limits. i do not have a "job" right now. i work at a different department, reintegration based. if i have to get back to full time, i will not be placed in this job and then i have nothing. they will fire me.

i can say what i want to my doc, he never listens... when i defend myself because of that, or if he is saying things that aren't true, he will say i get to agressive. when he asks something and i am not sure, he says i am avoiding. i get nowhere with him. he just smiles and seems to like it to argue with me. which makes me more angry. maybe he is right, maybe i do have ptsd, maybe i do need help, but i still should have a say in this. it is my life.
 
maybe he is right, maybe i do have ptsd, maybe i do need help, but i still should have a say in this. it is my life.

So - there are some possibilities in this. Your job - you need employment, you have said you cannot be unemployed.

The employer is being oppressive but offer's you 'therapy' that you don't know if you need or not but in any case if you don't take it you will be out of a job.

Yes you should have a say in what happens to you I agree. However, the employer also has obligations that they must be seen to honouring by offering you treatment. This current employer is where you were injured? It might not be the correct treatment in your opinion (but it is the only one they are offering).

Can you go outside of the employer's therapist and get another opinion? Would that not then satisfy the employer (and any legal obligations they have) and keep your employer off your back?
 
So - there are some possibilities in this. Your job - you need employment, you have said you canno...
yes they are obligated because i got injured there. i know i should take what they are offering. and i did. if i go get another opinion and it doesn't work out, they can say it wasn't a good therapist because he/she was not on there list. i must say the centre who diagnosed me, which my employer has a contract with, is one of the best. they have a list with therapists with alot of experience and they are closely watched.
maybe this one wasn't the right one for me... maybe its because i don't trust anyone... i am scared they will send me to an inpatient treatment so i can not be avoiding anymore...
 
A therapist can be great for others and not the right fit for what you need - and this therapist seems like he went too far too fast. Pacing is very important in trauma work. I’ve seen a few therapists who were well recommended and simply not the right fit.

Does the center that diagnosed you know how badly you are struggling now? I’d strongly suggest giving them a call and expressing your concerns and that you are struggling more now. They might be able to speed up the process in getting a consult with someone else.

Many trauma survivors struggle to trust, and you did keep this therapist at a distance by not sharing with him how much you were struggling with symptoms after sessions. Instead of throwing in the towel entirely and risking your job, it may be more effective to tell the next therapist right up front about this experience and your symptoms and to ask to go slowly with trauma work and to instead spend the time stabilizing and getting symptoms under control so you can function as well as possible.
 
A therapist can be great for others and not the right fit for what you need - and this therapist see...

nobody knows... im affraid of telling someone...
my therapist allready asked in his letter to the center to speed things up from what should be three months to a few weeks.

yes i did keep him at a distance. i did try to tell him a little.. but when i told him something his reaction was like... oh thats normal.. thats part of ptsd or something like that and he just continued. so whats the point of telling if nobody cares? and besides that, im not very good at explaining and expressing how i really feel.

i think i want that, get it more under control before jumping in... i think my first sessions scared me.
 
Yeah, it makes sense to be scared to jump into all this. It also seems like it’s been really hard to accept the diagnosis too. Even years after my own diagnosis, I still sometimes resist it. I try to remove it’s just a tool to help me get help to do more of what I want to do in life.

Because you are resisting the diagnosis that’s probably why he was trying to help explain what was common for PTSD.

Something to remember: you don’t have to talk about the trauma until you are ready. The more that you can share symptoms though, the better the treatment team can help find tools to manage and cope with symptoms. If they are not providing tools but just saying that’s normal for PTSD, you can ask, “yeah what do I do about it?”

Something else that sticks out: your comments about “exploding” about the cat and etc. Has anyone coached you through skills to manage that fight (part of the fight or flight) response? Part of what might make this easier is finding some ways to help the symptoms settle.

It’s good rhe therapist asked them to speed r up. But I’d still suggest making sure someone with the center knows how bad things are - it will help them find the right therapist quicker who can really focus on stabilizing symptoms more than this last one.
 
Yeah, it makes sense to be scared to jump into all this. It also seems like it’s been really hard...
yes it is hard.. many docs told me it wasn't ptsd so i was sure... and now it all changed.
i didn't know that.. he wanted to start right away. and i had to tell over and over again.. i was following his lead.
i didn't even know how things worked with ptsd... i barely got the diagnosis.
no not really.. i think the only one how have seen me upset and angry is my company doc... but he just laughs. and when i tell someone i can get really angry and explode they usually don't believe me or don't know what to do with it. today i could have killed my cat... felt really bad about it.. he is ok now. just got scared.
 
@LilyRose After ready all the pieces of your situation as you describe it in this thread, I have to wonder if you need an unbiased outsider with no connected interests to them to protect your interests and guide you. Seems your relying and hoping on them to dictate your course expecting a good outcome which is problematic as there are conflicting interests when the party who treats you is connected or employed by them. Your interests are not what matters to them. Its there interests they care about.

You may want to consider looking towards organizations that can give you a different perspective, and potential solutions.

I hope I am wrong, and I may be wrong, but from what I have read I don't see how you can get a good outcome.
 
@LilyRose After ready all the pieces of your situation as you describe it...

I know. I don't want to rely on them but have no choice.
I tried finding someone to help me. But they keep failing me. Talked to multiple poeple about it, and they all say they want to help me and promise me things to take care of.. And then they just vanish. So i gave up on that. Just have to do it myself.
 
I can't answer this for you. I can only speak of my own situation. I took care of myself for y...
I am new here, and 58 and your post here is helpful to me. I too have lived what i thought was a non ptsd life, only to have old traumas triggered similarly, not by a doctor but by another situation. I was aware of my childhood trauma and thought it dealt with. I have started seeing a therapist and we have just started the EMDR. It took me a year to work out that it was ptsd behind a cataclysmic depression and self isolating. Yes, I want to deal with this now. It has shaped my relationships and life is too short now to be stuck in this state. I have been shocked at the state I have ended up in, having had a successful career and business etc...it amazes me how this strikes and disables, completely disabling
 
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