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Civilians Don't Get It.

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Whooo, weeee! Glad you told me the day after, Jar, that way I didn't get burned in the radiation.!

Sarg
 
Jar you know I said mail me bro... keep on keeping on... got lots of people here who depend on ya...

I'm on a rant too... just had to put that in too Jar...

This whole "patriot" shit here in the US... hell.. these people don't give a rats ass about those boys over there unless they are at a cocktail party then it is the appropriate thing to say...

I heard from my cousin what Jar said.. he got off the plane and had rotten food and eggs tossed at him on his way home from SF airport... and sorry Jar to say this... at least you knew they were anti war... these people today wave their flags... talk abt patriotism etc... it all ends at 4pm when they leave the office and head home...

ok and ya I am not gonna shut up like I usually do... put those f*ckers one day in our boots and I will be happy.. one day.. that's it.. even peacetime I don't care... like the f*cker I saw at the grill near my house the other day.. dressed in all things Marine dress blues... sitting there talking with me... I shoulda known when he didnt even blink when I said I was a corpsman... next thing I know I look at his ribbon bar... he was soooooo proud of his campaign ribbon... too bad he had it 2 or 3 ribbons in front of the bronze star... omg it took everything I had to not get physical... this guy was no Marine... he even said he was going to Galveston and how all the chicks would be all over him... rly??? going to be an honor guard at a funeral and all you can think of of is free beer and chicks??? ok imma be quiet because I am rly rly angry now... all of us.. the screams in the night we hear when it is quiet... carrying my keys between my fingers because it makes a right nice weapon if need be etc...

Screw them... and no not all of them... if they only knew us........ rly knew us....

ok I am done... and ya... there's a lot of pent up frustration in me I have been keeping quiet abt..

ok not screw them... f*ck them... ok done....
 
Yeah just been on that kind of rant lately. Just tired maybe. Glad I got a place like this. I can let it out and not be judged. And I know ya'll absolutely got my back. Only military people know what that means. I sometimes with I'd stayed in the corps. There's still politics and all the rest but when the shit hits the fan you always know that people will risk their own lives to save yours.

There is just no civilian equivelent, except maybe fireman and police.

I'm still better at helping others than askin' for it myself. Gotta' lot of work to do there. Thanks Guys.

Jar
 
Tom, don't let the phoneys get ya man, they're sick, pathetic little weaklings that can't find any honor in their own lives, so they steal some of ours. Kinda like mice. Just put out a few traps and forget the little bastards.

Jar, stick with me, bud. I'm sicker than a dog right now and ain't cuttin it, so I guess we can just lean on each other to keep vertical.

Sarg or sort of...
 
Comrades, that all sounds really bad. For us when the doors are closed and you know who you are with, you talk and relax. But certainly when you cross into RS from FBiH or vice versa, then you never say about these things. Nobody has ever thrown anything at me though. I just don't know what to make of that. Actually, thats not true, a girl from Novi Grad through a frying pan at me once, but that was another issue.
And nobody pretends to be a lily. Why would somebody want to do that?
 
Yeah just been on that kind of rant lately. Just tired maybe. Glad I got a place like this. I can let it out and not be judged. And I know ya'll absolutely got my back. Only military people know what that means. I sometimes with I'd stayed in the corps. There's still politics and all the rest but when the shit hits the fan you always know that people will risk their own lives to save yours.

There is just no civilian equivelent, except maybe fireman and police.

I'm still better at helping others than askin' for it myself. Gotta' lot of work to do there. Thanks Guys.

Jar
I'm sorry to say I have worked for 2 different law enforcement agencies and they are worse than the regualr civis in my experience. Now don't get me wrong, there are at least some good folks anywhere you go if you look hard enough. But just an example of what I saw, when I started at the jail I was on the graveyard shift with 2 guys. The CPL and the shift SGT. These guys were BEST friends. I mean I thought they might have something going on at first. Then after I had been there for about two months it came out that the shift SGT was screwing the CPL's wife. And back stabbing like that was the norm at both places I worked. I have since sworn off any job that requires a badge. I'm sure there are prolly some that have gone to law enforcement and loved it. But for me I did not find the brotherhood I was looking for. I just found another reason to hate civis.
 
arwar --- while I was deployed out to Lebanon my best friend I went to bootcamp, medic training, and our first command together was screwing my ex wife.. it happened in service too... but feel you on everything else.. ya you weren't around then but ohh I guess it was March a guy at the complex here fell in the pool and drowned... I pulled him out and the cop that helped me get him up the steps and started CPR on the guy is an ass... The other day I saw him outside, walked up and wanted to tell him thanks for caring enough to try... for taking over for me as I was too worn out to go too far with CPR after the swim in.. basically to greet him as a brother... I stuck out my hand, he looked at me and opened the gate to the pool and walked in, and began flirting with some girl in there...
 
Jar, stick with me, bud. I'm sicker than a dog right now and ain't cuttin it, so I guess we can just lean on each other to keep vertical.

Hang in there Bro. Together we can do this thing. Let me know how I can help. I'll always have your 6.

Jar
 
arwar --- while I was deployed out to Lebanon my best friend I went to bootcamp, medic training, and our first command together was screwing my ex wife.. it happened in service too... but feel you on everything else.. ya you weren't around then but ohh I guess it was March a guy at the complex here fell in the pool and drowned... I pulled him out and the cop that helped me get him up the steps and started CPR on the guy is an ass... The other day I saw him outside, walked up and wanted to tell him thanks for caring enough to try... for taking over for me as I was too worn out to go too far with CPR after the swim in.. basically to greet him as a brother... I stuck out my hand, he looked at me and opened the gate to the pool and walked in, and began flirting with some girl in there...
Yeah I am pretty shocked by the way that most (not all) of the law enforcement guys I have met conduct them selves. The word professionalism just doesn't seem to mean much to them. In most cases I am embarrassed for whatever dept they represent.
 
sadly that door swings both ways, i know i used to be cruel to civilians, just in general, until i drunkenly slice my hand open and my neighbor took me to the va, she stayed with me until i was released, and came to checked on me for days after..

the 2 worst instances of disrespect took place by brothers from my unit who came and visited. one when he was on leave 3 years ago, decides to make passes at my girlfriend the whole time he was here, conducting himself very inappropriately. she didnt tell me until after he left when he replied "my bad," and "at least it didnt go anywhere" i told him he was dead to me, and never to contact me again. the second offense happened from another friend, he just got through a divorce and wanted somewhere safe to chill, i understand, i was there once myself. when i picked him up there were 2 rules to follow, "dont f*ck with my girlfriend", and "dont drink my vertical epic 050505". simple rules he broke both, drank my beer id been holding on to for years, its not even supposed to be opened until december this year, i bought that after i got home, before my divorce wtf? something from before my life went completely to shit, to enjoy this year, it was a marker for me, i didnt think id make this long, and that piece of shit drank it. then after i told him we'd figure something out, he like a predator went after my lady, i threw him out, never spoke to him again, and this left me very distrustful of vets, both the ones i let into my home pulled the same shit, only the second time i was informed about it immediately and she went to stay at a friends until he was gone. the simple fact is the world is a slimy skeezy place and a lot of people you may think you know or trust are in fact creeps.
 
I think most civvies don't give a shit. And who can blame them.

Show me one post/thread here that burrows in to their problems?? When have any of us cared about 'civvie' problems?? I've not. If you have; kudos to you.

Most responses I get from civvies are "so??" or "you weren't fighting for my rights or freedom" and try to come up with an argument against that. Since 1945 in the UK its a hard case to argue.....?? Good luck. I see Help 4 Heroes as a charity doing what the Gov should be doing anyway.

f*ck civvies. Don't look for them to understand. How could they. I went through the sausage factory of CTC Lympstone. They didn't and not one of them ever asked me to do them a favour. Most I speak to then and since would like to see investment not in foreign wars, but in education and health care.

You look after yourself. And you look after your oppo's. That's it. Civvies are different how?? How many people here give a shit about anyone a civvie that's been shafted or facing cuts?? Go on. Tell all.

Not to take the piss, but be the change you want to see. Don't rely on civvies.
 
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