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The reality of losing my only source of income and health insurance has sent me over the edge. Mental health care funding and treatment , Medicare, SSDI ...
I am on SSDI and I have Medicare too... they do suck and mental health care funding has already been falling apart in my state. So I see why you are concerned.

Something that has been calming for me to remember: no president can do a thing with Medicare or SSDI or most other laws unless congress passes a bill to change it, the president signs that bill, and congress chooses to not override the president, and that law is properly funded or defunded by congress.... or the president throws out the consitution entirely and becomes some flavor of a dictator.

Outside of military actions (and there are checks and balances there), executive orders (of which are out of control but still somewhat limited), and illegal impeachable actions, the president can't actually pass any law himself. Not a single one.

The president is the executive branch, not the legislative one. As much as presidents talk about where they stand, and this is very important, they don't actually have as much power under the consitution as it might seem because of the length and shock of this past election cycle and current division in the country now.

I have deep concerns about the president elect and what he will do in office and what others will do with him in office. I think we are at a very dangerous point in history.

However, I want to push back a little to what I read here and other places about fears of how so many things are expected to fall apart, and with urgency like it will happen rather quickly with no opposition or checks and balances.

Unless the sh*t really hits the fan, most government programs are not going to suddenly end overnight... and if things really hit the fan, well... a lot of things will fall apart then...

But it hasn't happened yet.

For many reasons I won't get into right now, Medicare and SSDI are not likely to end in the near future anymore than they were already likely to end.

(Edited to delete section on the checks and balances in the consitution that we still have because I didn't want to get too far into politics...)

These issues like loss of all current gay rights and Medicare and SSDI could become real problems down the road, but right now, we are at least a few steps away from it being an immediate problem.

It's like when an abused person is running from an abuser and begins to fear danger from all people at every turn. The victim is smart to be careful and concerned about the known and very real and present problem and threat - but generalizing to all people and places actually makes the victim less safe because they won't get help to stay safe and be able to engage in as effective problem solving as well.

I see that happening in the US right now.

There are real problems and real dangers right now, and maybe they will get much bigger down the road, but if people generalize too far about too many things too soon when they are already "over the edge"... they won't be able to deal with the problems of the current moment as well and will end up feeling even more over the edge.

Does this make sense at all to anyone or have I muddled this so badly it's a mess of words?

It's important to try to redirect our thoughts to focus on what is and isn't happening in this moment now when over the edge... the and to recognize when generalization and/or focus on future fears might be happening and not actually helping someone cope, but pulling one more over the edge.

Mindfulness and CBT are two sets of tools that can help a lot in reigning in fears like some expressed here.

I don't write this to dismiss any of the fears of the future, and I don't mean to invalidate anyone's distress or fears - I get it, I'm only trying to mention that maybe when super triggered or distressed, it might help to try to refocus on this moment now.
 
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My plan is to make the best use of that opportunity I can. It's resulting in some interesting conversations.

Yes! I was just thinking about that! Wouldn't this open conversations about sexual assult and other sexual traumas. About how "locker room talk" really isn't ok. And stuff. I mean, this sort of opened the way to have real open conversations about it.

And it seems to be starting. I see Megan Kelly is due to go on Dr. Phil to talk about just that.

So maybe it will be something that opens conversations about something this country doesn't want to talk about and seems to want to sweep under the rug.
 
You're right, I did miss the "R" and I suspect everyone else did too. You're also right, you sounded 's...

IMHO going around correcting people about facts & figures you perceive to be wrong isn't supporting people and leans more toward arguing politics. (Even if I had indeed said "countRy", which I did not.) I'm sad this thread has gone this political sort of way twice in one day. I'm no longer going to defend keeping it open as IMHO it's run its course.
 
I think this is a very useful thread and I would hate to see it locked. So many of us have a lot of processing to do over this and it would be really helpful to have a give and take on our therapy experiences, etc. I see my T on Monday. Y'all know this is what we're going to be talking about,. And I will be happy to share any wisdom she has.
 
I am very afraid for myself and other 100% disabled veterans. I live in California. There is serious talk about seceding from the Union and starting another state that includes Washington, Oregon, California and Nevada. The names for the country vary (Pacific and Cascadia is what I've heard). What happens to those of us who receive basically all of our income from the VA and Social Security? Would it be the same as if we lived abroad? Would we lose the 100% health care that we are entitled to? Would we lose our Social Security? What about our VA benefits? These things have me rather nervous, if not down right scared. Any thoughts, preferably with some actual facts, would be very much appreciated.
 
I'm isolating, too, and so is my husband. I think that's okay. At least for now it's certainly better tha...

When I went to class on Wednesday, my teacher that also was a supporter of the other side looked about as shell shocked as I was feeling. I had trouble putting a half way decent thought together. It helped a lot that she and I and another student stayed after class and had a conversation about what we were feeling. Fortunately there was no class on Friday since it was Veteran's Day. I really feel like isolating. I went out for a little while today to get my mail at the post office. I'm probably in for the rest of the weekend until I have classes on Monday. I just can't wrap my head around possibly losing my Veteran's Benefits and Social Security. Without those, I'm totally screwed. I know that Fear is false evidence appearing real, but the evidence doesn't feel so false right now.
 
I'm so glad to hear I'm not the only one. Again, I don't want to get into a political debate, but the...
A good friend of my is LGBT. He didn't know before the election how many members of his family hated gay people. He was so devastated that he stayed in bed crying all day. I did the best I could to support him, but it wasn't all that easy since I felt similarly. I did send him a great pic of a guy in a kilt and said let's go to Scotland. All kidding aside, this is so hard to deal with. I've spent so much of my life traumatized that this just feels like it's stacking up on me again.
 
"A good friend of my is LGBT. He didn't know before the election how many members of his family hated gay people. He was so devastated that he stayed in bed crying all day."

I'm the survivor of sexual assault & an abusive relationship. I also happen to be biracial. My pain is captured best in this quote above. I didn't know how many racists there were among people I considered friends....

....and the dismissive responses to my concerns about the hateful rhetoric are very triggery due to my past abuse history....it's reminiscent of verbal abuse and victim blaming
 
hoping I can talk Monday. Really need to go to therapy for several reasons. Im reminded of my fat...
Wow, this just brought up something for me I hadn't thought about in a little while. I was married to an extremely abusive man in my late 20's/early 30's. It took me 7 years to finally believe I wasn't the POS he said he was. I wasn't lucky he put up with me. I was a valuable person in my own right and deserved to be treated as such. About 2 or 3 years ago I was on Ancestry doing some genealogy. I looked up his son's name (he's a junior) and surfed into a nightmare. That ex-husband was on the Megan's Law website for lude and lascivious acts with a minor under the age of 14. It was like someone had socked me in the stomach. My first thought was it couldn't possibly be him. It was. My second and several subsequent thoughts were just NO and variatons thereof. I had to check the picture several more times to get that to sink into my brain. I did some more checking in the area where I know he has always lived and he did time for felony domestic violence. I guess I was lucky he didn't hurt me any worse than he did.

Seeing our country vote in someone like this just feels like getting smacked in the stomach all over again. At least I have a clue where it's coming from this time instead of it completely coming out of left field. It did, but at least there was a little bit of a warning as the evening went on.
 
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