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Does Anyone Else Have A Racing Mind?

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I too have a racing mind She Cat. Generally when I feel threatened by someone or of the possibility of something happening, and when I am triggered or hurt by someone or something.

These predominantly are the times when I obsessively think and my mind races, as I attempt to figure things out, try and sort and sift and make sense of it all, and try desperately to find a solution, protect and/or fix myself.
 
Hi Wendy

Yup I did racing thoughts and do have a mind that won't shut down.

In my case, racing seems to be PTSD-related, and "won't shut down" part brain conditioning and disturbed sleep pattern.

My mind was going full steam ahead all the time but because of traumas and abuse, the thoughts were going so fast it was overwhelming (extreme stress).

When I started using CBT techniques 20 years ago, I noticed my thoughts were generally slowing down.

I was diagnosed bi-polar 5 years ago and it made sense at the time because I was experiencing hypomania.

And now that I have near-zero stress because I retired medically, they don't race.

Now I've gone off and on my meds a lot because I often felt they made me worse. Plus, Dr. Besel van Der Kohl stated that those with C-PTSD were often misdiagnosed as bipolar.

SO I went off my meds two months ago and found that, while I have no stress and no racing mind, my mind simply wouldn't shut down at night. So I think my mind was pre-conditioned to think at high speed to survive and it became a way of life.

My pdoc put me on a small dose (10 mg) of Abilfy, which I take in the morning, and I generally fall asleep within 15-20 to minutes.

I thought for years I had, because of concentration problems, ADD or ADHD, because I scored 64% on a test, and normally only a score of 36% is needed to qualify for a diagnosis.

So bottom line if you ask me, racing thoughts and mind are probably, for traumatized individuals, a normal, conditioned pattern of operation of the brain that can be improved with less stress, mediation, CBT, meds, etc.

You aren't going crazy.

And we're very good at multi-tasking, though in my case I still have poor concentration except when highly motivated.
 
I still have the *racing mind*, but my memory is slipping...LOL!!!!!! Age related, stress related, PTSD related, who knows.....I guess I don't mind the racing mind so much, cause I can't remember......


I think it is stress related, and the more stress that I have, the worse it gets. The more I stress about it, then my memory gets worse too. Vicious cycle......
 
I have always had a racing mind. I felt a good dozen steps ahead of conversations, even books and movies. Figuring out people quickly was always my "specialty". I don't consider it a bad thing, and I am so used to it now that it usually doesn't tire me anymore.

I will say though, that for me when ever I got EXTRA fast in my thinking and reactions it was when I was about to recall something new about my traumas. Almost like my body was preparing me for the shock of it. It became my Que to get ready for it. It got so predictable that I could judge how rough the memory was going to be by how fast my mind would race. I learned to batten down the hatches before the storms would hit.
It worked for me.
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Lately my mind has been racing so friggin fast it's crazy. It didn't slow down until sometime this evening. Last night was crazy. Found myself telling the T how I was sweating and tense as iron last night and explosive at any perceived error in my husband's thinking. My God, looking back at it, it was like I thought it was a life and death need that I be heard, and that I be allowed to instruct. It was nuts with my mind racing a mile a minute, yet seemingly making much sense. If I wasn't he couldn't have listened to me as well as he did, but it was the intensity and Sargeant like authority to provide such info. and give such instructions the way that I did, that was and is scary.

The racing mind and my hypervigilance last night really should've had me hospitalized and/or chemically restrained.
 
I am a problem solver, my Dad was the same way, my kids show signs of it too. We all just can't walk away from a good challenge wich is good, or an impossible to solve personal problem like "why did that person behave like that?" or " why didn't I get chosen for that job?" wich is very bad.

It serves me well in my job, I work on a problem until I solve it, sometimes in the middle of the night, sometimes driving, sometimes while I am mowing the lawn. But my mind is always going, and when I am faced with a true dilemna, with answer A or answer B both fighting for the final decision, it can become almost as if I can hear an audible buzz until I lose the concentration or go on to something else. My trick is to try to keep challenging ideas to work on and try to switch over to a positive and creative thought when I feel the negative stuff coming on.


Lately I am working out the details of a homemade generator that I am hoping will run quieter than what I can buy, OR I am thinking about how I have to drive with the idiots every morning and wether it is worth the extra gas to drive the big truck or save the money and drive the subcompact risking death to save cash, what a lousy way to have to get to work, I wonder if the cops are even aware of the kind of aggressive driving I see every day, people that drive like that have probably never been in an accident, maybe they need one, if this is my sole interaction with society in general I am ready to check out, how long till it gets me just like the hundreds of unknown unnamed victims I saw as a firefighter, on and on and on until I have been mulling it over for hours and don't even realise it.

I am betting that this kind of borderline obsesive thought is pretty typical for PTSD. I have been struggling with trying to find the final answer to problems I faced 27 years ago, and I can get just as worked up about it now as I did then. Isn't that really the essence of PTSD? Never being able to attain a final resolution but reliving and rehashing bad experiences searching for answers and closure over and over until it dominates our lives?
 
Oh my, you sound shredded with this, I'm sorry. Everyone is so different with so, so what is the dynamic for me, might be just nonsense, hence irritating to you. That essence of PTSD thing-replaying endlessly until there's a resolution. For me, it's just that the resolution ended up having to be something that didn't make any sense but that has to be ok. There wasn't any 'sense' to the whole thing, so looking for some finite answer was tto hard, draining, exhausting and futile beyond belief. Why did he, THAT person, do all those things to me, for so long? Because he was an *sswipe of horrible, bullying, sociopathic, powermongering 'human' being and liked it. Why wasn't I protected? because the system in broken. Why did he pick me? Because he could. For me, it wasn't so much a matter of not being able to find a resolution, but finally, finally figuring out the FINAL answers were ones I hated, but answers all the same and i could reject them just because they weren't what I wished to discover at the bottom of all this mess, you know? Please do know that this is me, and so terribly subjective. One can't speak for others, or just assume what is correct for my peace is correct for yours. It all still shatters me, if give it the energy but know I can't, since the answers will be exactly the same.

I do hear what you're speaking of in the need to find solutions and work through other things thoroughly, too. Perhaps there's a secondary spin on that also, however, if one thinks about it. Why is it neccesarily unhealthy to at least wish to correct that which is wrong, or broken, or unjust? Yes, there must be a balance somewhere because of the sheer futility of being able to act on every, single instance-I have that overwhelming, head will pop off feeling myself over these things frequently. It just plain has to be enough, to do what one can, know they've done that, and perhaps influence others down the same road, if that makes any sense. I can't imagine as a firefighter how often your efforts were quite certainly THE 'enough' for those who needed it. If I'm way off on this, please do ignore. I just kind of thought I recognized some of what you were saying.

Again, sorry if this is way off. When one is feeling shredded, it's flatly frustrating and annoying to have anyone grab the wrong end of the stick and begin poking one with it, so to speak!

I'm also more than a little curious on the success of your generator. Ours is on it's last legs and boy do we need it back here in the boonies. My husband would think it a high treat indeed to also create one out of thin air and whatever magic it is he bangs together down in that big shed. Take care!

Anni
 
No, I am Ok with the stick you poked me with! A little needed perspective. I use the obsessive thoughts about traffic and inconsiderate drivers as an example of the kind of bad problem solving I find myself buried in on my worst days. I do have a racing mind and for the most part I can harness it for good rather than evil, like the generator or one of the machines I design and build at work. The generator is just a 12 volt for charging the batteries in our travel trailer, but I am mounting it on the rear Bumper in a box with foam insulation to quiet the mechanical noise of the 3 horse engine, and running the exhaust through a double wall pipe straight up the back so it exits above ear level and if aimed at open sky will have nothing to reverberate off of. the outer wall of the double wall pipe will be the exhaust for the cooling air I will draw in with a powered fan, adding to the fan on the engine, both fed through a baffled duct. Total price so far is 25 bucks for a servicable engine, and 15 for an alternater. I need a battery, and a peice of 4-5 inch stainless tube about 7 foot long and an electric radiator fan, still looking and thinking, designing and analysing the potential for problems.
Beats the alternative of thinking about all the negatives in my life, past and present. They used to tell me I was depressed, now I realise that a close call in traffic could remind me of all the adrenaline I ever fealt as a driver or as a firefighter responding to an accident scene, and I would be "background " thinking about it for days, weeks, months. I literally can't go anywhere without seeing the bodies and the dismemberments and the helicopter landings and loadings and crying mothers and stumbling drunks. I am so glad I don't do it anymore, I am hopeful that this PTSD diagnosis will lead me to an effective way to get those memories farther in the background.
 
Funny, I have often wondered why my husband did not react more to the traumas he's had in his life. He's had a few, and severe, but also a terribly analytical mind and the aptitude to implement solutions, as it sounds you have. If you do not mind, I am going to show him your design, since suspect he'll genuinely recognize exactly the dynamics and possibilties. Good grief the price of these things had gone UP-silly, isn't it? At any rate, I think my point is, I've often thought he has this sort of self-healing 'thing', for want of a better phrase, where being enables to do these solutions-ie making a generator out of thin air, must do something which gives his head some satisfaction and closure, if that makes and sense, apart from the distraction. He's always doing it, too, which is why your generator caught my interest. Thanks for that description, by the way, and know he'll know exactly what's up there! At any rate, of course it does not provide the final, absolute solution for you, but as a positive, productive means of channeling the racing mind must at least give one something satisying that was accomplished out of all that.

Not to sound TOO much as if putting these workers on a pedstal, but have often, oten wondered how EMT's firefighter. police, first responders do deal with what they must see. We get to drive past the cleaned up accident- all that's left is the skid marks, maybe some bits of glass but the cones and police tape have been removed. There's always some emergency worker, when they show these on the news, holding up a tarp to shield 'us' from whatever awfulness occured to a human. We then get to gloss it over and continue our lives.I do always thing well that's nice but some human, trained or otherwise, had to make sense out of the unspeakable- was on the other side of that tarp. I think we call them 'public servants', which is a stupid term, I think-implies they HAD to do this, and have to, instead fo having chosen it at some point probably to genuinely HELP. I think it also serves to further distance the public from the realities of these jobs, you know? So dry! I'm saying zero of anything helpful here so will shush, but hope I am certainly in no way at all a unique person. If I have had these thoughts, then many. It's not a 'yay rah' sentiment, but just a respectful acknowledgement that what you did was daily pretty much above and beyond in the real sense of the word. Just appreciated, although know that might not be helpful.

I'm not sure exactly where I'm going with speaking of the racing mind, except that I can't help but feel one's head sometimes looks for ways to get OUT of this, sort of behind our backs, if that makes sense, too. I guess the ability to channel this towards that generator, and positive solutions ( as hokey as that sounds, and believe me, I know it does)and away from the futility 'out there' is where it;s tough.The other possibly annoying thing, because it's something everyone says including me, is that some forms of therapy can sometimes ( underlined) put to rest those images one is plagued with. I say annoying because if you've already 'been there' that sort of comment will make you wish to fling the computer somewhere irretrievable. You are obviously very bright plus already stated you're a solution-finder so would imagine you've explored those options-plese don't fling, was adding it just-in-case! :)

I think I said I'd shush several hours ago and really will now. Thanks much for sharing the generator. He's at present 'fooling around with' his words) the prospect of getting more power into the storage battery from the little solar panel by harnessing something or other down at our creek. I can't explain it properly, he's having a blast so I just make him lunch and nod like I understand what he's talking about.

Thanks again, and please excuse of zero help, which honestly realize may not have been!

Anni
 
I've always "thought" myself out of stressful situations, to find a solution or make sense of it. Now, with PTSD, I've started to feel that I'm not going to be able to think my way out of it, that I need to actually stop that at times. So, then, I do the opposite and think that my propensity to think is something bad.

Saw an interview with a guy who just wrote a book, about 60 yrs old, and he very confidently said "Well, I'm a brooder you know. And you know what that means, I sit around in the dark and think about things." Made me laugh and realize that, hey, if you're a brooder that's OK, there's other people like that too.

It's hard with PTSD to know what parts of myself are good/bad/neutral and how to just be honestly the way I am and keep to the good side of my natural traits.

Just me here - I like your idea of using your thinking for good rather than evil, that pretty well sums it up :).
 
I wonder how many honestly worthwhile books were written by those who brood in dark corners and whose head's ended up 'brooding' their way out of the dark, if you know what I mean?

Without wishing to come across terribly like some terminally perky cheerleader ( you know the type ) I have a big 'thing' about light being born out of darkness. Philosophical hence arguable as hell but true in the end, I think.
 
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