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Embarrassing Chronic Suicidalness

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I guess there is nothing I can do? I'm not even really good at helping people for starters so.. But if there is anything..
And also I think what you've outlined as the main problem is the area we all struggle with. Sometimes I have this coked out (not really) thought that maybe we can come up with a way. I mean pooling strategies, things that helped. If anyone is going to find a way it probably will be the sufferers.
And also you mentioned medication. That's not something I have any expertise with whatsoever. But you mentioned once being prescribed something...was it anything that helped?
 
First of all: Don't be ashamed of your suicidal thoughts. That's like being ashamed of having an allergic rash or something. It's not your fault. If anything, the people who put you in this place should be ashamed.

Anyways. You remind me of a friend of mine. When I first met her we were being suicidal and self-destructive PTSD sufferers together. It helped us both to have someone who just listens and understands and isn't scared of the things you think or tries to preach or shame you into something. On this forum there's dozens of people who'll do that for you, listen to you and make you feel less 'outside' or 'defective' or 'failing'.

My friend was pretty much on the road to becoming an alcoholic, was fed up with her life, failing at uni, sleepless, this close to jumping etc. I don't know how she managed to take this turn, but about half a year later she got it into her head that, after other people made her into a wreck, she now wants to make that wreck into something worth her while (and that is: a bundle of pure muscle and physical stamina).

We're not talking much currently, but last time I heard from her she dropped out of uni (she'd been wanting to do this for ages but social pressure made her hesitate), is holding down a fulltime job serving drinks in a bar at the railway station (which she loves) and her goal is to get her six pack to finally show so that she can start a job as a workout coach. From the outside her life looks more run-down than ever, but really she's managed to build a sober life that she enjoys living ~90% of the time.

I don't know, maybe this makes sense to you. If life sucks, find your own way of living it and identify something that you're good at, something that you'd like to achieve/learn/master/..., something worthy that you can make of yourself, and make that the reason to keep going. And even if you don't think it works like this, what do you have to lose by giving it a try? You can still kill yourself tomorrow, or next week, or whenever :)

My reason for living are the novels I write. There are always days when I think that they're crap and I'm crap and why do I even bother?, but I know that there are also days when my work makes me feel good, productive and worthy. And knowing that those days exist helps.

EDIT: It's patchwork, sure, one good day here, one good moment there, but in the end it'll still be a blanket, hehe.
 
Ms Spock- I draw. Well. I used to. There's been some giant block for me for the past year and I also write stories. All of which currently are not finished as well. I suppose drinking can't be a hobby but hey, right now, I'm awesome at it.
Heidi- Medication always just always made me feel tired. It never made me feel any different emotionally. I used to be on Abilify back in the day and I was just a lifeless zombie and I spent all day feeling like I was underwater. That was frustrating. I really don't like medication so I refuse to take any. I've read too much about the side effects of years of psych meds. The question is would I be any better off after years of being chronically suicidal? I don't know. I've never had any luck with meds and I've never been much of a talker which probably why I'm here on this website. The anonymity of the internet helps me talk about things I would never discuss in person.
freakofnature- I get what you mean. Everybody just has to find their own little comfortable spot in the universe. I just haven't found mine yet. I hope if I keep trying I will. It's just going to be a long time. If I can get over whatever it is that's keeping me from drawing that would be great.
 
Hello Scaldedsheep, I hear you.

Everything you have written here makes complete sense to me.

I was homeless too. Bad drinking problem, especially around age 30 or so, also. Incest survivor (now age 54) grim family.
I hear you and I know how bad it can suck. I have been there; 3 times voluntary psych ward suicide prevention. Just wanna say I sure hope you feel better soon, I sense you can do this, and am rooting for you. :tup:
 
Ever since I've been homeless it's hard to feel like I have a safe place even though I've been living comfortably in same place for a year now. It's weird. I can't calm down no matter where I'm at. I even have a room now and I feel like it's not mine.
 
And also you mentioned medication. That's not something I have any expertise with whatsoever. But you mentioned once being prescribed something...was it anything that helped?

I presumed you were on medication, my bad. I couldn't keep moving if I wasn't on my meds.
ms spock
 
Ever since I've been homeless it's hard to feel like I have a safe place even though I've been living comfortably in same place for a year now. It's weird. I can't calm down no matter where I'm at. I even have a room now and I feel like it's not mine.

The being homeless physically and the being homeless emotionally are two different situations. I am homeless within my self. I am homeless in not belonging. I am homeless in being alone. I am homeless in my home. I have no connection to it at all.

I so wish you were with me today when I had this brilliant conversation with one of my art teachers about being homeless in your self and trying to find a way out of that. It was great. I felt so much better after talking to him. I thought well maybe the homelessness is not so bad after all - maybe I can make art about it, so many of us experience an emotional type of homelessness - maybe I can make art to sooth others.

I went to objective drawing today. The teacher is a crap teacher but he is a nice guy and has some interesting ways of thinking about things. He just lets you be who you are which I have appreciated this year as any more would be too intense. So we got to talking about being homeless in your self and he gets the abuse thing and was talking about ways of finding you - i.e. stop being so disassociated, derealised and depersonalised. I really wish you could have been there. I really do. Each person needs someone like this in their life..
to hear him. It was interesting.

ms spock
 
Ms Spock- I draw. Well. I used to. There's been some giant block for me for the past year and I also write stories. All of which currently are not finished as well.

Just pour paint on the paper and use your fingers. Use chalk and draw on the sidewalks. Get a pencil and doodle. Don't think about, it just do it. Just for five minutes a day.
 
I suppose drinking can't be a hobby but hey, right now, I'm awesome at it.
Heidi- Medication always just always made me feel tired. It never made me feel any different emotionally. I used to be on Abilify back in the day and I was just a lifeless zombie and I spent all day feeling like I was underwater. That was frustrating. I really don't like medication so I refuse to take any. I've read too much about the side effects of years of psych meds. The question is would I be any better off after years of being chronically suicidal? I don't know. I've never had any luck with meds and I've never been much of a talker which probably why I'm here on this website.

It took me years and years to find the meds that worked for me. But now it makes such a difference.

Self medicating with alcohol is probably riskier than taking monitored and prescribed drugs..

You need someone good to help you with the meds. A really good psychiatrist.

I finally found one and it has made all the difference.

ms spock
 
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