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Relationship How Many More Shut-outs Can I Take?

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DeedeeRSM

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So my ex who turned into good friend in name, but actually we're still together, but with less stress and we spend less time together so all stays well between us.

It has been an amazing couple of weeks/months. No nonsense, no stress for him, no sadness for me. We meet in weekends, we cook and dine, we watch movies, we sleep. During the week we stay connected by text and phone, sometimes we meet up. It was going fine. I had decided that I would continue in this way with him until I finish college and then see where he stands in therapy.

Now that out relationship is not causing any of us stress any longer, the actual source of his stress came to surface. His dad is constantly soending his money. For groceries, to give to his brother, etc etc. Not to borrow, but to keep so to say. I'm not talking 50 a week. I'm talking thousands. He had put money aside to buy a car, and he was saving it on his dad's account > his dad has spent 10.000!!!!! of the 12.000 he had in that account. How can any sane person spend 10.000 of another person's money in a year?? Meanwhile, his brother gets free holidays and his bills are paid by his dad monthly. Thus, my boyfriend has been paying his brothers vacations and bills plus his father's groceries for the last year.

I just cannot understand how a father can spend his son's money to ive to his other son. This other son is unemployed by choice btw, and is living luxuriously while bf and I are always watching what we spend. His father never once asks my bf how his therapy is going, or what he even is in therapy for!!?? I told my bf it's his own choice to be enabling like this towards people who are clearly only after his money. It's so weird that the love for money can reach beyond the love for their own kids/siblings sometimes. But I guess we see that in a lot of people. Whenever I say this, bf says I'm right, but then continues to give his dad money. So I just stopped listening to it. Told him it's his own choice and responsibility to be supporting his dad (who btw is earning a very high salary monthly himself as well) and now even thinking once about building a home for the two of us, or doing something for our future.

Next to this, his therapist was on holidays and bf was too late to make an appointment, so he has been without therapy for 1.5 month now. This also adds up to his stress. Luckily he will see the T next week.

So here comes the issue > of course I am the once that gets shut out again. Yesterday he calls me, saying he's going to the shop to return a phone of which he found the insurance papers. The phone was broken. I asked him what phone? He tells me which phone. I instantly gor upset and moody (didnt yell or even say anything, just was silent). This phone was a secret phone he was using for his shady business of which I didnt know. I instantly remembered. Then he says, you know this is the phone I've been using before I had my current phone, so what are you getting upset about? So I tell him, no, before this phone you were using thisthat phone. The phone you're returning was your 2nd secret phone which you kept hidden from me and I later found out. He starts yelling. I hang up. He calls back, says ''we should end this, can you prepare my stuff in an hour''? Aaaand poof I'm shut out again.

We already went from lovers to friends, but I don't think I can take any more of his shutting me out anytime anything gets stressy for him policy. Pretty much NOTHING changes in my life when he is not in it. I arranged it that way because after so many times of this, you learn to make yourself happy and not rely on him. Anyhow, this time I'm really pissed off. He can go and try this stuff with his leech dad and brother. So funny how things are clear to me now.

RANT.
 
You only will take what you allow yourself to accept, which is secrets and lies at the moment. If this is what you want for yourself, then keep on. You have given him every opportunity to continue this behaviour and so he does. At what personal price are you willing to put up with this nonsense? Only you know the answer.
 
I remember you.

Money is a MAJOR issue between couples and if he can't stand up for himself, situations like this will continue to happen. I am concerned that he doesn't have his own bank account. Why not? Why give someone else access to $12,000?!? That's kind of insane.

Love is great, blah, blah, blah, but at the end of the day you need to see eye to eye with your partner on major life issues, money being one of them.

Did you ever resolve the past issues or were they swept under the rug? I'm concerned about this private phone issue, too. If someone is going to lie to you to that extent, then they're probably lying to you about other things, too. (Lying is a major deal breaker for me!)
 
If you have to hide it. then what would be next.

I love most of the supporter forums and follow many of you who participate daily. I have been able to better understand P.T.S.D. and I know there are so many scenarios which lead to P.T.S.D. and are so unique to each person.

The hardest part of all of this is the "shut out" phase. I married my best friend and when she pulls away it is for a long time (weeks into months) I am the sole provider for our family and now I am feeling totally used and she is just there for convenience. We are heading to divorce and I have my papers still. She has delayed that so far and I hope and pray that we can start talking again. Just basic talk....not about finances, love. Just hearing her voice.
 
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Did you ever resolve the past issues or were they swept under the rug?

Hi Solara, yes it's me again. They were swept under the rug...since we transferred to being ''friends''....basically we just put it all aside and decided to keep it light. But as you see, unresolved issues from the past just bit me in the *ss. As I couldn't stay normal when hearing about that particular phone, although he wasnt doing anything wrong any longer. His reaction to my being upset was the bizarre event though.

He does have his own accounts. His car was registered on his dad's name, for cheaper insurance policy. Then when it was sold the person he sold it to, transferred the money to his dad's account naturally. He trusts his dead (dont ask me why) and thats how the money ended up there. I really dont care if he wants to be leeched by his family. But he shouldnt have taken it out on me.

She has delayed that so far and I hope and pray that we can start talking again. Just basic talk....not about finances, love. Just hearing her voice.
Im far past this point. My bf really is like a very good friend, like my best buddy. I dont see him anymore as my man or anything. I am well taking care of myself and his company only gives me fun and pleasure and comfort. Really a very tight friendship with ocassional sex. Thats the point where you'll get when you keep getting shut out. I wish you good luck.

*hugs if you accept them*

Hugs are always welcome, *hugs back*

You only will take what you allow yourself to accept, which is secrets and lies at the moment.

The lies and secrets are over thank god. But when I get upset about his past lies and secrets he shuts me out. Well, thats his problem.
 
Dude, I'd be out with just the "secret phone" and "shady business."

Add "can't use his own bank account" to the mix?

NO. Case closed.

I've allowed myself to be in some crap relationships and not valued my worth. And with these things, it looks like that's what you're not doing here. Anyone that has to have a "secret phone" can go have a relationship with it, not me. In my opinion, we're all worth more than that.
 
I don't see that the lies and secrets are over, just better hidden. I'm with Bell.

Perhaps, I don't know. I don't like assuming facts which I have not seen.
BUT I just read here that there's a lady with PTSD who just finished her masters degree and I was like wow...I can't help but think that there are choices and options whatsoever.

The friendship is out of the question now as well. I just don't want anything to do with him any longer as I am honestly convinced at this point that he is using his PTSD as an excuse. It's a shame.

Haven't spoken to him since Wednesday. I feel no missing at all.

Thanks for all of your replies guys!
 
I guess I'm taken aback that there are supporters who assume we can't accomplish things as sufferers such as get a masters degree?

There are a lot of sufferers here who have accomplished a lot of great things in their lives, education wise, professionally, family wise, etc. I earned my masters at the height of being symptomatic. I guess I'm commenting because there is a common assumption that sufferers can't do this or can't do that when the truth is that we're a very diverse lot. It's just that we don't necessarily talk about other facets of our life as they don't relate to PTSD. No offence meant, just commenting.
 
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I guess I'm taken aback that there are supporters who assume we can't accomplish things as sufferers such as get a masters degree? There are a lot of sufferers here who have accomplished a lot of great things in their lives, education wise, professionally, family wise, etc.

I know that now..I know that since I've been reading everyone's stories here. But when you are with somebody who blames his PTSD for everything, does nothing in life for all of the mentioned in the quote, and you have no other example around, you have no choice but to initially think that how that person is, defines PTSD.

That's why sometimes I can't help but to be surprised, and then angry with my ex, when I see that sufferers are actually normal people who can do things normal people can (I dont mean normal as in sufferers aren not normal, just trying to make a point)...
 
@DeedeeRSM, personally, I think a lot of achievements come once we realize that a) this is not something that is going to go away (i.e., it's ours for life) and b) we need to take responsibility for it. Before I realized those two things, my life was completely a mess. PTSD is not an excuse to waste your life, it's the ultimate excuse for getting your life together, because you really have only one choice, stay a mess or live your life as intended... which takes a lot of work, but is so very worth it.
 
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