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Hyperventilated Because Neighbor Came To Front Door

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About 30 minutes ago my next door neighbor came to my family's home. My dad opened the door and she was crying. She said her husband tried to choke her and that she can't do it anymore. They've lived next door to us for about two years and have young children. My parents speak to them and have been helping them with groceries and driving them a few places after their car broke down. Although the wife and children are polite, I have not trusted the husband since they moved in after I heard him screaming and cursing at his young daughter one morning. There was so much hatred and anger in his tone that I was even afraid. I've only said hello to them every now and then, but mostly kept my distance. Tonight when I saw her at the door and heard him cursing at her I began to get scared. My father stepped outside to speak to her and I asked him to stay inside. She kept asking him to call the police, but when her husband heard her he yelled, "Don't call the f**king police!" She was standing behind my dad and I kept thinking, "If he comes up our stairway and into our home there's nothing we can do." And I started hyperventilating. Two years ago I saw another neighbor murdered in front of my home by her abusive ex-husband. It took a few months to stop having flashbacks and panic attacks, but I was doing better by 2015. Tonight everything came rushing back. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know if calling the police would escalate the situation or if he'd try to come in our home, or if he'd hurt her or my dad. I was so scared. The neighbor said he didn't have a gun and that he wasn't going to hurt us, but I told her I was sorry and it wasn't her fault. I didn't want to turn her away and leave her outside, but I was so scared for my family and my own safety. I was afraid if he hurt my dad or her, then he'd come after us for being there. I was also afraid for their children and wondering how they were doing hearing all this happening. Then my mom came downstairs and I told her what was happening, but she was acting like it wasn't a big deal. My mom is the main person they talk to and I was scared if she went out there to help she might get hurt.

Then I started crying and asking them why they were going outside because other than calling the police there was nothing we could do. The more they told me it's alright and go upstairs, the more I began to hyperventilate then I started screaming. I was crying and telling them there was nothing we could do and how I saw the neighbor shot to death in front of her children, and there was nothing to be done other than call the police. I was freaking out because I felt like they were putting my family in danger to help the neighbor when we could have been calling the police. My parents were really dismissive and treated me like I was crazy and ignored me. Eventually my dad came inside and locked the door. The neighbors kept arguing and the wife tried to get as much distance from him as possible. I wanted to call the police, but I was so afraid of what he'd do to her or to us, or his kids if they showed up. I got a drink of water and went back into my room.

I've been doing everything I can to stay calm and not let my fears get to me, but I felt like I was in danger tonight. I felt powerless and angry. I thought the only thing I can do is call 911, but tomorrow or later there's no way for me to know if he won't hurt me or my family. The people in my neighborhood will hurt you or kill you, or vandalize your things if they even think you got them arrested. Until I can move I have to deal with this.
I'm just tired of feeling unsafe and like I have no support. I feel like my parents are too trusting and that the neighbor (the husband) can not be trusted, and by interacting with them they are putting our family in danger.

But I don't know if I'm worrying because this is a real threat or because of the PTSD. It feels like both.
 
Ah. My father was like the neighboring family's father. Getting strangled only once is more than enough to indicate that not only is a relationship abusive, but dangerously so.

I don't know if it will comfort you but generally in these cases the abusive father, if he has homicidal intentions, will focus it on his partner and the children. If you stay out of the way the most he'll kill is his family.

My father tried to kill me and my mother numerous times. He strangled me once, smashed my mother's head through a wall, and beat us. He tried to kill me once because it was discovered that I needed glasses. He tried to kill us for less.

During the times when his intent to murder us got out of the home, he threatened strangers but did not hurt them.

So yeah, if you do nothing and stay away from the neighbors you'll be fine. They won't be fine but it kind of sounds like the sort of situation that isn't even helped by the police. It all depends on what the mother and the children are willing to do to survive. Often landlords will throw out a family with abusive arguments into the street.

So... It's both? But the level of danger is not as bad for you, though it is still pretty bad. It's probably fatal for the family though.
 
(I realize that all I said is very cold of me, but I have been through it and seen it happen repeatedly through the news, as I tend to study up on this stuff. And it so very often ends badly for the little family. I escaped and am kind of a "best case scenario" outside of "abuser realized they are at fault for the abuse and takes steps to stop themselves" which I've seen happen twice, though I don't know the exact levels of abuse in either case.)
 
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I think it may be both.

You can see danger because PTSD makes you alert to danger. But, PTSD can also send that danger alert into overdrive.

I'm paranoid as anything and yet I hesitate to get treatment for it because it keeps me safe. I look around and see people in the world who don't have this sense of alertness and they get hurt/traumatized/etc-----but I don't? No, I'm not lucky, it's my paranoia that keeps me safe. Who would want to lose that sense of safety? Sorry for going on-----I guess I just wanted to say that your alertness may indeed be serving a good purpose.
 
Yeah, what Eve said -- fear can serve a purpose. I read a book all about fear and its usefulness once.

Fear makes you aware of a situation. Then you can take steps to dissect it, and see from context what to do about it. Reaching out, as you did, to find out more about this type of situation is a good first step.

I send hugs if that is ok.
 
I don't think you're crazy at all. It was a real threat. There's a reason domestic battery calls are the most dangerous calls for police to go on -- they get out of hand really really quickly and they are unpredictable. So, don't beat yourself up or think you were overreacting. You are just acutely aware of these dangers, whereas your parents don't seem to be. At the same time, of course, it's entirely possible the neighbor guy would NOT have done anything violent. You never know. But you were reacting based off of your own past experiences; and if you didn't react this way, THEN I'd think you're a bit crazy. That said, I think you do need to come up with a plan for how to deal with this, because it sounds like this situation will just keep repeating. Maybe send a note to the wife advising her to contact a women's shelter? It wouldn't hurt to tell her flat out that you've seen a woman murdered in a similar situation -- and that the same could happen to her in front of her kids. She probably won't listen, but at least she'd understand your concern then and maybe take it a bit more seriously. You could also try contacting a women's shelter on your own and explaining the situation, asking them if they'd consider paying the woman a visit to offer her help. I'm really sorry you found yourself in this situation. I've never witnessed anyone murdered in a domestic violence situation, but I have seen women brutally beaten and tossed down stairs. And there was nothing I could do but call 911. I once saw a woman helpless on the ground after her drunk husband threw her down a flight of stairs and broke her hip. She was begging for help as he was loading a shotgun. I tried to stay with her and help her but had to run for my own life after calling 911 for her. I still don't know if she survived. Even if she did, he probably killed her later. Either way, there really was nothing anybody could do if she wouldn't leave on her own. So please do put your own safety first and do whatever it takes to do that. I really hope you can move soon! You need to get out of there.
 
I don't think you're crazy at all. It was a real threat. There's a reason domestic battery calls are t...
Thank you. I'm sorry you had to witness that. You did everything you could do and it was right for you to get to safety. I will take your suggestion about contacting the women's shelter to see what their resources are.
 
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