• We are a multilingual website again. Read the notice about this.
  • Understand AI use at MyPTSD: all AI use is explained in our AI help page. AI use is by choice here. It exists if you want it, but does nothing unless you choose to use it.

Intimacy and attachment in the therapeutic relationship

Status
Not open for further replies.
I think you're probably right @Suzetig
I did start to look up some stuff online this afternoon and just found it so confusing trying to work out where I fitted. I didn't seem to be quite the right fit for any / I kind of fitted them all.
So, I decided to shelve that exercise!

Keep working on the bits I find hardest...ugh! Good advice. Painful to think about right now!
 
You definitely need to do what works for you. I'm a scientist. Animal behaviour, learning and welfare. So the cross-over is a little confronting for me at times...the only way I can deal with it is by reading and understanding. Not quite up to the acceptance stage yet lol
 
i am so thankful for this topic. Oh my how do I relate to this. It stands as my biggest obstacle and maybe last obstacle to work through in trauma therapy.

I left - quit Therapy because I couldn't handle closeness. This is still huge obstacle. I feel I will grow old and never experience this. But my T was male and I felt we were more like soul mate because there was communication without verbal communication (nothing sexual at all). You know always on same wave length. But I just couldn't approach him about this last are of my therapy after five years. So I left. Do you feel this area of learning healthy attachment and establishing intimacy (outside the office of course) is better to work with same sex therapist?

You definitely need to do what works for you. I'm a scientist. Animal behaviour, learning and welfare....
Reading was immense help to me too any books to suggest. Also do you feel this topic is best worked on by T and person of same sex
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I've posted before here about my therapist/therapy but not for a while. I've been seeing her for three...
Um, are you me? For a minute there I thought I was reading a post I wrote. I wrote two posts pretty much two weeks apart. One was where I wanted my T inside of me (like in my heart) and then I wrote a post wondering if my T even cares. So I get the push pull. The attachment is an anxious/avoidant attachment and comes out the more you share trauma stories. I really hate it and struggle with it. But it makes sense to see the attachment struggle as just another form of trauma pain than really the actual relationship. Your trauma pain is manifesting as that push pull just like how trauma pain can present as intrusive thoughts. The best thing I ever heard is that this means you are doing it right. This is the work, it is ok to have this attachment. What you need to do is develop skills to tolerate the attachment anxiety because that is your trauma pain just in a specific form. It is just like you would use skills to manage intrusive thoughts. Use those skills and talk about it with your T. This takes courage because if you are like me, you will feel terrible about being so vulnerable.
 
I am so glad to read this thread. I have been in therapy 5 years; in those years I got stuck at the intimacy/attachment type of work. I am female and T was male. Unfortunately I was really in sync with this T. And I have years of experience working with male MSWs and Doctors etc...and caring for male patients... this man was really a soulful individual and we were in sync in many ways. Well I felt uncomfortable discussing this particular topic with my T. I just couldn't It occurred to me I like this T in ways that just could not be pursued ethically so I left.

So now maybe its all part of me sabotaging this area that is meant for growth. Perhaps its all part of the trauma recovery thing. I tried the match.com and sabotaged all the men (got to six lengthy contacts/meetings with dates) Each time the emails got more intimate or meeting them - it ended the same way - me ending it.

Developing intimacy or attachment with a man has become impossible for me. This makes me so angry because my brother stole my childhood; as did my dad and mother due to parental physical abuse and neglect; and then my husband stole the next 25 of my best- youthful years and now the one person I felt very alive and attracted to turns out to be the T. So that's it for me.
 
@SherlocktoWatson I tend to read journal articles. In terms of authors I have a ton of respect for Janina Fisher, Christine Courtois, Otto Van der Haart etc. You will find they co-author a bunch of articles and they will naturally lead you to other articles of similar caliber.

This is my first experience in therapy and it's with a female. I do feel as though she understands me pretty well. Couldn't imagine having a male therapist.

Hate that I can't edit! Janina Fisher, Bessel Van der Kolk.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Looks like I'm not the only one struggling with this stuff!

I've managed not to cancel my session tomorrow. I don't want to go. I'm dreading sitting there with her. I don't know what to say.
 
I’ve struggled with this push/pull intensely since I first started with my T, a little over 2 years ago. I’m reading about Internal Family Systems therapy now and it’s helping me understand that I have parts that try to attach to others and look to be rescued and parts that try to protect me from getting hurt. Both are valuable parts. The more open I am about this with my T, the easier it gets. I go through phases of feeling pretty secure. And then something will happen like she’ll go away, and I’m back to square one. It’s the hardest part of therapy for me because it makes me struggle with intense shame. But I just keep showing up and being honest and she keeps telling me it’s ok to be attached to her. Everything that feels huge in my head is put right when I can have a conversation with her. I hope that happens for you in your session.
 
understand that I have parts that try to attach to others and look to be rescued and parts that try to protect me from getting hurt. Both are valuable parts. The more open I am about this with my T, the easier it gets...it makes me struggle with intense shame. But I just keep showing up and being honest and she keeps telling me it’s ok to be attached to her.

This helps me immensely. I want to be attached to my therapist. I have to say the words though, not imply them, and talk about the parts of my personality--the part that needs to (wants to?) be attached and the part that needs to (wants to?) protect myself. Is attachment like love? My body is tense with fear as I write this. Attachment freeze. Thinking about my therapist is bringing on a kind of panic attack. Attachment is at the core of my traumas.
 
The session didn't go at all the way I expected. I told her that I've been fantasising for weeks about firing her and that the thought of it (at the time when I'm having it) feels exhilarating at first but then becomes very anxiety-making.

I expected her to pick up the thread from what she said last time, which was that the extreme feelings I am having about her/the relationship (intense attachment/anger/complete disconnection) are not about her but that they have historical roots around attachment. So, I thought by telling her about the firing fantasy and how raging I feel in it, that would give us an in to explore some historical stuff together and what I'm really raging about because I'm not sure about what the roots are.

Instead, we ended up having a very literal conversation about whether I wanted to stop therapy (with her or maybe altogether) or take a break. She wasn't actually suggesting I stop/take a break (she was very clear about that!) but was putting them out there as options (as well as continuing) I think to emphasise that I have power in the relationship and that I have a choice about whether I want to stay in the relationship or leave. She said that some people cannot tolerate how excruciating the therapeutic relationship feels and that they therefore make a choice to leave it. So, if I wanted to leave or take a break, that was ok and we will work on it together so that I leave "consciously."

And I found it stressful - because I don't want to leave and I was finding it worrying that she was talking about me leaving - and I couldn't speak very much and couldn't look at her.

So...yeah...not quite what I expected! And I felt worried and teary that evening but didn't go into a huge meltdown thinking she doesn't want me to go anymore, which I think is what I would have done a few months ago. So, I guess that is progress?!

I actually emailed her the next day - not an angry or anxiety driven email, just a "there were some things I really wanted to say but I couldn't get any words out, so I just wanted to share them somehow before I see you next time" kind of thing. I told her I didn't want to stop therapy and that I wasn't going to walk away from something that's really important to me just because it feels particularly hard at the moment. I said I am feeling very frightened in sessions at the moment but I don't know why. I said I wasn't expecting the literal conversation about leaving therapy and perhaps next time we can look at historical roots and I would give that some thought before I see her.

Although I didn't feel great about how the session went while I was there or that evening, I have actually felt much better since. I feel a sense of relief. And I haven't felt angry with her or fantasised about firing her once since the session, whereas I had been doing it several times a day for a few weeks. I don't know if it's just because I said it or whether it was something she said or whether it was sending the email - probably a combination. But...yeah...there is definitively a sense of relief and I feel calmer.

I think the things I wrote on the sheet - which she felt was all about attachment - the other week still stands so I definitely think it is worth us diving into that a bit. But I am glad that something seems to have calmed a bit and that the firing fantasy has stopped (for now, at least!)
 
Last edited:
Phew! What a session! Amazing how things don’t go the way you’d planned/expected. That always makes me feel really unsettled - don’t mess with a control freak lol.

I can relate so much to what you’re saying. The whole feeling frightened and not knowing why. Turn up to my exec role and I’m nailing it. Turn up to therapy and I’m all over the place...more dissociated then anything else.

Sounds like your therapist knows her stuff. Enough to knock you off centre a little and yet enough to stabilise. Love your courage given the option to quit too. Go you!!!!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Donation drives

2026 Donation Goal

Goal
$1,800.00
Earned
$910.00
This donation drive ends in
0 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds
  50.6%

Trending content

Featured content

Back
Top Bottom