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Is Self-harm A Warning Sign Of Suicide?

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Hmmm, I would see how it correlates to the idea of suicide but I agree with the idea that it's more about the emotional pain. Idk how to answer the question.

I know that I tend to keep a lot of my memories suppressed because they are harder to live with facing them. Depression has a high rate tendency to lead to suicide more than self-harming, I think. Suicide is a sin in the religious beliefs I carry, but I also can't say where to cross the line if the person is in the terminal stage of their illness and they want to die with the assistance of doctors. I am starting to see that my suicidal tendencies come from the lifestyle I've lived with my family and personal life, unstable and insecure.
 
I agree with the theory that self harm is for many a need for comfort and the familiar and when coming from a childhood of abuse, the familiar is pain.

Growing up in an abusive unloving family leads to pain and isolation and I know when I feel at my worst, that's a place I go to. I isloate myself and hate and punish myself in various ways - all forms of subtle, but just as painful, self harm.

But this for me is not a warning sign of suicide, although for some it may be depending on your behaviour pattern.
 
I think someone posted a link to a very good article that addresses these differences specifically. I think it was in the "What does a suicide attempt reveal about you?" thread, something similar to that.
 
This wasnt the first that I ever thought about self-harm. I mentioned it earlier how my lifestyle/past affected my life. I started to contemplate the idea more after mid 2009. Life after 2009, rolled downhill with circumstances that I could not handle or absolutely control. I've thought the way I would do it but many reasons hold me back; simply for the statement made from another forum, that most PTSD sufferers are the least likely to go through with a suicide attempt, successfully. I could be wrong. But I think that would be one of them for me....
 
I used to self injure (primarily cutting, some burning), and it was related to my depression, not to suicide. However, when the depression worsened, then suicide became an issue. So even though the self harm itself was not directly related to suicide, there was the common denominator of depression, which is what had to be treated in order to minimize both the self injury and the suicidal ideation.

It has been over 8 years since I last self injured. Back then, I was in and out of hospitals almost constantly, and an occupational therapist kind of made it her mission to find an alterntive. As weird as it sounds, the alternative activity that worked was weaving. She made a very basic loom out of a piece of cardboard and used embroidery floss (like you make friendship bracelets out of), and when I felt like self injuring, I would weave until the urges passed. It was tactile, which I think is very important for most self injurers, and it required enough focus to occupy my thoughts, but not so much focus that I was unable to do it. I later moved on to Play Doh (which I considered a step down), which is nice because you can squeeze it, tear it, throw it, smash it, etc. Basically you can abuse the ball of Play Doh instead of abusing yourself. I used the Play Doh when I was working with teenagers and I had a couple of kids who self injured, and it was really effective. Knowing that you can beat the crap out of something in whatever way is most pleasing to you, and giving yourself permission to take those emotions out on something besides yourself, was very freeing for me and seemed to be for the kids I worked with.
 
I am unsure of the exact ages because I've suppressed a lot from my childhood and teenage years that relate back to the trauma, and right now while I'm trying to piece everything together, I either get so depressed I'm numb or I hate myself.

It sucks, my counselor asked me to take it on faith that I'm worth being cared about and I don't deserve to hurt. And I'm trying, I really am. It is just very hard when anytime something goes wrong I think it is my fault and because of that I deserve pain. I know it's irrational but that's part of where the self-harm comes from.

I think I started self-harm around 12 or 14, but again I'm not entirely sure of the ages....I stopped after my niece and nephew were born. Somehow those kids gave me hope, that I could protect them where no one protect me and I was too little to protect myself. But right now, trying to deal with all the memories, emotion, and pain the self-harm behaviors came back. I've not done it as badly in the past few weeks but the urges get very strong.

Typically they are self hate, so I end up punching a wall until my hand is swollen or I break something. I guess it's something about feeling like I deserve pain. I know I've repeated myself a little, but this is me trying to process and move away from this because no one needs to hurt themselves.

I like the play-doh idea, I might have to try that next time. I also use pictures, happy ones. I've got them on my bedroom walls, in my phone, and even my MP3 player. I keep them nearby so if I'm upset, instead of hurting myself I pick up a picture.
 
For me self inflicting is not the same as wanting to die. Though I may feel like dying at the same time I'm self inflicting, it is not my intention to die.

To avoid self infliction I try to stay put in a place where I do not have access to anything that I would or could hurt myself with. Sometimes that is very difficult. More often then not I succeed. Not easy by any means.
 
I do think it's a warning sign of suicide. I too used to cut myself. I was in a physically, verbally (gaslighting) abusive relationship for 3 years the last year I lost myself. I began to cut myself just to feel relief and was too scared to commit suicide which I'm grateful however, it got worse. I began thinking of upping it a notch- to start purposely breaking my arm, etc. I got out of the relationship and it took about 3 months to not feel self destructive like that again.

If you can, get it out in another way, please. I do not want to see someone hurt themselves. Go to a gym and use the punching bag, yell, see a therapist, whatever you need to do to get it out in a healthy way.

We no longer need to hurt ourselves since others have done the job for us. Stay safe, remember you are loved.
 
For me self injury has nothing to do with suicide. I self injure when the emotional pain is too much to deal with. I have a very high physical pain thresh hold and I am able to disociate from physical pain. So when the emotions felt so intense I thought I would die then I would self harm and then the physical pain was very managable. I can release the physical pain almost instantly.

I have been suicidal but it was very different. I would plan and think it through. Self harm for me was very impulsive.
 
Go to a gym and use the punching bag, yell, see a therapist, whatever you need to do to get it out in a healthy way.

I am working with a counselor now to work on replacing the behavior with something more constructive. I spoke with the psychiatrist yesterday and when he asked about cutting he also asked if I had the urges to do so.

I won't lie (and didn't with him) I've had very, very strong urges to cut and/or hit something until I hurt my hand again, especially when staying with my parents. They have a way of saying all the right things to make me want to hurt myself--I know it's not intentional on their part, but that is how things are. I didn't act on them though, I didn't cut or hurt myself. I withdrew into myself, which is slightly better but I'm working on not allowing that either.

So when the emotions felt so intense I thought I would die then I would self harm and then the physical pain was very managable.

I related to your post very much, and I think maybe that might be why I feel relief if I cut or hurt myself. I was not taught or allowed to feel emotions as a kid and now that I'm being taught to do so, it is HARD and scary. I don't know how to react when I feel especially strong emotions and then I end up hitting something or cutting my arms.

I remember that father used to spank or punish us in some way, mother too, if we showed undesirable emotions such as crying, anger, yelling, heck we'd get in trouble for being too loud when we were happy. I'm still not very good at allowing myself to feel emotion, but I am trying.
 
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