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Need Advice About Helping My Family Understand Ptsd

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In November of 2008, while serving a tour of duty in afghanistan as a cavalry scout, I was injured in an ied strike. I was the gunner of the vehicle, upon detonation I was thrown from the truck. After being thrown from the vehicle I was shot up the left leg by enemy machine gun fire.

This is the root of my ptsd, I just wanted to make it understood what the cause of my ptsd is.

My mother and I have not spoken in over three months, this is because of a particular day that I went to her house to attempt to help my sister with a new phone she had purchased. When I tried to help her my mother and her friend would not let me speak by talking over me loudly and telling me I was wrong. I tried to stay calm having owned this particular phone for the last three years. As I was trying to calmly explain to my sister what to do my mothers friend started to talk over me again like I was some child or maybe a former prisoner, its like everyone forgot about what I did. I try to talk to my grandmother about it, and she tells me I need to forget, and lately has been avoiding me all together. Every time I bring up the war around my mother and my grandmother, the somehow shift the conversation back to being about themselves. There is more from my uncles family as well, however I need to take in step at a time here.

How do I get them to understand that what I go through is real?
 
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I don't think your family wants to understand and I think you should stop expecting them too. It will only bring you more pain. I think you have already been through enough and do not deserve that sort off treatment from them. If anything they should be caring so much for you.

My family still don't know about my PTSD, but they are aware of what happened in the past but they pretend as though they do not know. I let them and I have quit expecting them to change and this has made life easier.
 
For a start, how well do YOU understand PTSD? Understanding where it started is important, but understanding the way it alters your view of the world is really important too. Have you had any treatment for it?

I wish I had some great answer for "how do I get them to understand...?" There is a lot of baggage with family. They "want" things to be the way they want them to be. Sometimes, I think denial is as much a problem for them as it is for us. It's hard to get past that. You can't do it with anger, I know that.... (I could give you a list of the stuff I've tried that didn't work, if you want? LOL "Anger" is right up there at the top of the list. Along with "pretending there's nothing wrong".) The best thing I can suggest is an honest, direct, friendly conversation, some time when there's nothing else going on. Take Mom out for lunch and talk about stuff. Plan things out in your head first. You'd know better than I do whether or not that's an option.

BUT, some people just aren't capable of things we wish they were capable of too. Not knowing your family, I have no idea where things might fall in that spectrum. I'd say the first step is to understand things very well yourself. I know, myself, there are times when I think I'm being "calm and reasonable" when, in fact, to others.......that's not the way THEY see it. My therapist says "we all get to have our own road map of reality. It's important that you make sure yours is as up to date and accurate as possible, but you need to realize it may not be the same as someone else's." It's not a matter of right and wrong, it's just "different". Your family, probably, wants things to be "ok" and you to be the person you were before the deployment. You ARE, to a point. You've also experienced life altering situations. They may or may not be able to "get" that. I hope they can. A lot is going to depend on how healthy THEY are mentally, what kind of relationship you had before, and how open everyone is to changes. Good luck!
 
I am sorry to hear how your relatives have been reacting. It sounds very frustrating. I agree with scout that maybe having a specified time to talk to her about it. I have tried printing stuff from offline that explains things to show and read when I have tried to get my friends to understand.

I can relate to having family that don't get it, but wishing they would understand or even accept it. It is really frustrating for me because I want them to understand and comfort me on this. But they can't. I think my mum is in denial. My trauma is a bit different since it was childhood, so I know for my mum to accept it, she has to accept that she let things happen and that it did affect me.

Even with friends, when I try to explain how I get triggered from things and feel intense emotions from them, I get strange looks. I know some of my friends try to understand or accept what I explain, but I have read from others on here and am understanding that it is hard for people without PTSD to understand how it works for people with it.

I have been told that I need to accept that others may not be able to understand the PTSD and how it affects me. I will pass this advice on to you, too. It is not an easy thing sometimes! It is hard for me to do. And as for my mum, who I know is not going to have the right responses to things I tell her, even after a family session telling her this is how I want you to respond. I am trying to remember that I do not want to share everything with her, even if she is inquiring about stuff. I am trying to remember I am setting this boundary because it is a trigger when she invalidates or minimizes my emotions/situations. I wish I could be closer with her with this, but she has proven that she is not able.
 
Hi Barry,

I'm sorry for what you went through in the past and what you're going through now. Having PTSD and being around family that don't understand is tough. Real tough, sometimes.

Although PTSD was known by different names in the past,( i.e. shell shock, etc.) treatment methods have changed and more is known about it now. However, unlike folks knowing/understanding about diabetes, PTSD and it's affects isn't commonly understood by most people. Many people are familiar with the term "PTSD" but understanding it is limited, and many folks who have it don't understand it until after a lot of reflection, research, therapy, learning about their triggers, etc.

I think what Scout86 said at the beginning of their post is very important: not only to understand how PTSD changes one's view of the world, but also understanding the particular ways it affects you, i.e. your symptoms.

With regards to other people understanding what you're going through. . . I believe many people do not wish to have a conversation that revolves around the topic of war. It's viewed as an unpleasant subject for many IMO. And your grandmother may be of the generation where people who ended up with PTSD were shamed and told not to talk about it. So, I suggest backing off from talking about war with her and possibly your mother and other family members too. I suggest looking for a PTSD group that you can join so(1) you're around other folks who have it and you don't feel so alone and (2) where you may more easily talk about the war and possibly make a couple of friends that definitely understand.

About your mom and friend talking over you . . . I understand that you took their behavior personally. Of course, I don't know all the circumstances, but their behavior could have been simply a couple of friends chatting/visiting about themselves and having a good time doing it, and their feeling about wanting to continue the good feeling they had between themselves was paramount to hearing about the knowledge you have/had about the phone. IMO this sort of thing happens a lot with people. IMO we/people, in general, often don't give our full attention to other people - people often carry on low grade talk/chit chat about things not too important and think it makes a relationship. I'm not saying your reaction to them talking over you was wrong. I just think that kind of thing happens to all people at times, and that even someone without PTSD could be irritated about it happening to them. My message here is that sometimes you just have to give others some slack.

That being said, I have to admit that folks talking over me is something that really "gets me"! It "gets me" (1) because I have the attitude that it's rude and (2) because of my PTSD I sometimes don't process verbal information coming in fast and that heightens my anxiety and stress. Errrgh! :mad: And I'll take it to mean that others think, or I think, I'm less important. Sound familiar at all?

I have been told that I need to accept that others may not be able to understand the PTSD and how it affects me.

I believe WillowMarie's statement to be absolutely true. I've had PTSD for quite a while. I've observed I need calmness around me and warm friends and family, time to process things and "normalize" myself, and that sometimes I react to things in a weird way. When something happens with family or friends that I don't like, I'm now usually able to speak up and be direct, "Hey, I wasn't finished speaking and you just talked over me." Or, "Wait, please slow down and say that again. I want to understand what you're saying." One of my weird (errgh, favorite?) ways of reacting is literally running out of the room without saying anything to anyone. :confused: It's due to something that happened or something someone said that (in my subconscious) triggered me, unknowingly in the moment. Usually, I "wake up" several minutes later, knowing what happened, then return. I'll just walk in and say, "What were we talking about?" (like nothing happened) or make light of my running away, do a little dance and announce "I'm back" and things will go on from there. Most of the time, doing weird things like I do is now just taken in stride by me and folks that know me. :D

Yes, we have to accept that others don't get us, and give them some breathing room because that's essentially what we're asking from them.

The best thing I can suggest is an honest, direct, friendly conversation, some time when there's nothing else going on. Take Mom out for lunch and talk about stuff. Plan things out in your head first. You'd know better than I do whether or not that's an option.

I think this is a great idea. If you can afford to take mom out to someplace nice it will make her feel honored and special. And if the place is not too crowded and is rather quiet, it will cut down on distractions. The purpose of getting together is to connect with her, so I'd suggest not making the conversation all about you. If she's at least a somewhat decent/caring mom, and you ask for her support and understanding in a non-demanding, non-judgmental fashion I think there's a good chance that she'll want to be more understanding. She may say she doesn't understand, or argue "Why can't you just . . ." at the time, but IMO folks that are even a little bit open may walk away with at least thinking about what you've said . . . . In time, you'll know whether she's that sort of person or whether she's closed. In which case, you'll just have to understand she's not capable of understanding - that doesn't mean she loves and cares about you any less. It just means she can't understand. <Don't know if that made sense.

(((hugs)))
Drew
 
I feel for you. If I told what's left of my family I had PTSD, they would scoff and call me a liar. My father established the myth I made things up when I was little to cover for what he did. It has been a drag to say the least.

I vote focus all your energy on healing you. Then other people's opinions or responses really won't matter much.
 
Hey Barry

I'm a vet with PTSD and your experience is not uncommon. It still makes it terribly hard to deal with what you're dealing with when no one wants to listen. They just can't and don't know how to understand what has happened to you. When I came home everyone try to act like nothing had happened and to just forget about it. Understand it's not that they don't care, they don't know how to care or deal with what's happened to you. Trying to put you back in a role, such as a childlike one, is their way of trying to make it normal for them.

I was wounded also and spent a great deal of time in the hospital as well. You're at the beginning of a long road my friend. Don't let yourself give in to too much anger it won't help you. I'd make a couple of suggestions if I may. If you aren't in therapy, start. It's the best thing you can do for yourself to work toward a better you and a tremendous help in understanding all that's going on at the moment.

There is also a sister site of this one for combat vets with ptsd as well. There are many there with similar experiences and you may find additional support as well. Feel free to pm me if you want to talk.

You've changed in ways that they can never and in certain ways will never be able to understand without having to experience what you have. Understand, you're not alone, even if it feels that way.

JarHed
 
Such great replies from everyone. @WillowMarie you could have been writing about me, your situation sounds uncannily similar...

It's hard for regular people to get what PTSD is like, just as it's hard for sufferers to understand what it's like for carers/supporters. We process the interactions through our own filters and need help understanding what's going through other's filters.

Honestly, this forum might be helpful. Perhaps print out some of the pages in the 'Articles' section and leave for your mom to read in her own time and place ('Understanding PTSD') ... Or direct her to the Supporters forums. Encourage her to read the Sufferers side too. Maybe surf the sister site for combat vets and see what would be good for her to read—and for you to read.

It's a two-way street understanding the threshold that we live up against—between those of us with PTSD and those of us who love those with PTSD (however they may "show" that love).

Good luck @Barry Lesnick. I'm still negotiating the tricky business of family—who to trust, who will support me, who will make things worse. My gut feeling is if someone is not going to support you, then leave them out of the loop. Move towards the support.

And sorry if this sounds strange in any way, I'm pretty triggered right now with family, holidays, air travel, meeting with abuser, and just feeling very very much like a lonely PTSD person and not a "normal."

p.s. I feel so much on this Thanksgiving day that the community I've found here is a new (and greatly improved!) family. Although, to be fair, I have one family member who is pure awesome.
 
He man, you staid calm tha'ts great , well a positive, keep going like this! Don't let it affect you, change from the get go! Because of the reactions misunderstanding you get from beying home. Keep that mental strength up! And don't feel guilty hen comes times when you don't.

Do you have any contact, any brothers around that were with you over there? Just wondering ?
 
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