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Need some advice about attempt

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You’re extremely lucky... many -if not most- kinds of blood pressure medications are exceptionally lethal, even with small overdoses. You must have somehow taken the exact right combination for them to counter each other instead of stroking out, suffering a heart attack, aneurysm, or falling into a coma with your brain starved of oxygen rendering you severely brain damaged at best, brain dead at worst.

That said, it’s still very possible that you’ve suffered serious organ damage from this attempt. I can not recommend more strongly that you seek medical attention to look for dead cardiac muscle & failing or distressed organs (blood and urine test). The sooner the better. Today if possible.

I am actually extremely surprised that I did what I did without hesitation or any thought or emotion attached to it...I simply didn't care if if ended badly or if nothing happened at all.

That’s how most successful suicide attempts work. There’s this moment of peace, clarity, sudden relaxation, even euphoria... and bang. Between one breath and the next, no hesitation... or even weeks later as people wrap up their affairs. That’s no longer ideation, nor intent, but being actively suicidal.

“But they were doing some much better! :arghh;“ is heard from countless friends and family who had been interacting with them during that time. No. Actually they’d already come to the decision to kill themselves. That’s why they seemed better. They weren’t fighting it anymore. So they could cheerfully socialize, go to work, clean their house, travel, pay their bills, play a sport or instrument they haven’t touched in months, host a party and be the life of it... all the things that were beyond them when they were spending every last bit of energy trying to stay alive.

It’s dangerous as f*ck.

And super common. As in probably the most common thing heard from people who survived serious attempts (bridge jumping - but hit the water just right; eating their gun, but the round exited their neck instead of the base of their brain; massive overdoses like yours, etc. ) I just didn’t care anymore, and I acted before I was even aware of what I was doing. It was that fast. And then it was too late to stop. I was already falling, had already pulled the trigger, etc.

Seriously Dangerous as f*ck. I really hope you laid it out with your T, today.
 
Idk, me personally, I never had an attempt that wasn't genuine, or I would have called it simple ideation. (I wouldn't have included passive-suicidal actions, either). No one ever knew (other than saying it here), and saying it in a confessional. I personally find that concept of attention 'creepy', I think disclosing it and talking about it has been one of the hardest things I ever did, and I did it with the full understanding or personal expectation it would be considered repulsive, and it (and I ) would be seen as repulsive and well, gross. I did it anyway. (And yes, felt repulsive and gross).

ETA, I did it anyway, because it was the truth, and I had implicit trust in the person and their guidance I said it to. And I knew I would have died for certain as it was. And that had implications for others. But also I was/ am trying to face reality, clean my slate, and try to learn how to live. One more day even, is and was one more day. And I've tried to help others here, when I've said anything, if nothing else for them to know they are not the only one out there who's stuggled or is struggling or experiencing the same. I think it's a taboo tpoic already. So it takes a certain type of courage for @DaneLover to have posted she needs help and guidance or perspective.
 
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Hi all,
I don't post much, but follow a lot of the post here. I have been with my T for almost 8 yea...
Dear DaneLover,
I am a bit late to this thread. I do hope you are ok. Please know you are not alone with strong SI. It can be so powerful and overwhelming and in the moment... the only way to make the pain end.
I would encourage you to not be afraid of the hospital.
It is there to keep you safe if you can't ensure that on your own.
SI is very scary. Please take it seriously and do not be afraid to share these thoughts with your therapist (T).
I hope you are safe. I hope you have found a safe place to talk about the pain you are in.
SI tends to remove us from reality and plunk us right down into the worst case scenario.
Whatever that scenario is for you...it is only a thought...not a reality.
8 years is a long time to trust someone. I hope you will trust your T.
Take a leap and don't be afraid of the hospital.
I have been there.
It really is ok.
Is it ideal? Hell no.
But if it is where you need to go to stay alive...then go.
You are worth it.
 
What utter crap!
It’s not utter crap, actually.

If a drug is metabolized through the liver - and many are - a toxic dose will not necessarily affect someone right away. An overdose of acetaminophen (Tylenol), for example, is very rarely fatal. But, there is a threshold for toxicity. If the body is allowed to fully process the pills (instead of vomiting them up), serious and irreparable damage to the liver can occur, requiring lifetime dialysis.

The individual would not be predicted to experience discomfort until 3-7 days after the ingestion.

There are various dangers that accompany suicidal actions, and many of them are non-lethal but also permanent, irreversible, life-altering.

There’s nothing to dismiss about a non-lethal attempt. While these attempts are often labeled ‘a cry for help’ - ‘cry for help’ is not synonymous with ‘attention-seeking’ or ‘malingering’.

It’s best to assume that a ‘cry for help’ is a legitimate attempt on the part of the sufferer to force some kind of intervention.

And even when those attempts compound to such a degree as to become manipulative behavior - the best response is to address the attempt by responding with mental health services.
 
...utter crap!

Actually... it’s called science.

There are several different classes of blood pressure medications, with different modes of action, but they all have one goal - raise or lower blood pressure.

The effects of blood pressure being too high? IE Hypertensive Crisis :
http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/Condi...-Pressure_UCM_301782_Article.jsp#.WwIvToplCf0
  • Loss of consciousness
  • Memory loss
  • Damage to the eyes and kidneys
  • Angina (unstable chest pain)
  • Pulmonary edema (fluid backup in the lungs)
  • Eclampsia

The effects of blood pressure being too low? IE Hypotensive Crisis (almost only seen in drug overdoses or in people with severe bradycardia, although hypotension the mild version is fairly common, happens almost every time you get diarrhea, the crisis version is very closely related to Hypovolemic Shock) ... basically means that not enough blood is flowing to your organs, because the pressure isn’t high enough to propel it along. Carrying oxygen. Including to your brain, which makes things go all KINDS of sideways and f*cked up when it’s oxygen depleted. Homeostasis just gets tossed out the window. But because you havent actually lost a fifth of your blood volume, it’s just sitting there, you end up with the kinds of problems drivers have in rush hour... backups. Tangles. Irritated people trying to push through. We’re talking clotting & coagulation. Which is bad juju when it happens inside blood vessels for no reason. And once your blood pressure normalizes? Those clots don’t always just break up on their own, can be dashed off just about anywhere. The lungs and brain are two of the most common places for them to kill you, but gunking up the works in your other organs can cause severe damage, if not death.

More fun reading for you

Hypotension | National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute (NHLBI)
Low blood pressure (hypotension) - Symptoms and causes
https://acls-algorithms.com/pediatr...verview-part-1/pals-review-hypovolemic-shock/

Joey already outlined the toxicity piece.

As far as the process of “Speed-balling” (taking 2 or more drugs, who each cause the opposite of what the other does, like uppers & downers) goes? Or what about if the drugs they took were neuroactive, like beta blockers? Or what the effects are on organs with over doses of any of the above?

Google. I’m bored with doing your homework for you.
 
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While these attempts are often labeled ‘a cry for help’ - ‘cry for help’ is not synonymous with ‘attention-seeking’ or ‘malingering’
I've always kind of thought that anyone who wants attention that much probably needs some attention, and it only makes sense that they get some.

Even someone who merely mentions the existence of a list could be struggling a bit
 
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