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PTSD married to Passive Aggressive

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Is the painting cathartic for you at all? Personally I find painting to be a bitch of a job, especially when there’s detail like that, but the finished product makes it worth it.

There’s probably some middle ground to be found here. If he hates painting and has no interest in this job whatsoever, then maybe that’s okay if he can do his part when he returns.

Kind of like him recognising this job is important to you, and you recognising that it’s not important to him?
 
No its not a cathartic for me, though it use to be For more than 20 yrs I have been doing a lot of work in this house such as painting and I got burned out from it, now its just a pain. However, if you don't keep on on these things, we won't get the money out of the house when we sell, which hopefully won't be too far in the future

. I got estimates for the job that ranged from $1400 -$2200 and since he controls the money and didn't want to pay, he initially said he would do it. Time has passed and he never has time. (not a priority)

Its not that he doesn't like painting, he also doesn't do housework. I don't think his family valued a nice house much. My mother sure didn't but being ashamed of our house made me care for the home much much more Im sure. I have backed off from doing these jobs for the past few years because of surgeries and not wanting to re injure my shoulder. Also, I haven't had the money since I no longer work. My friend helped me for 4 hours monday and will come tomorrow for 4 hours and I am paying her.

It is the finished product that is motivating me. Its been 10 yrs since it was painted and everything needs repainted around the 7 yr mark. Its really too much for us to keep up with but he doesn't want to move yet. I am 60 and can only do so much.
 
Blackemerald-he loves the pup. We are both in love with this adorable little guy. I haven't given pup any table food yet but husband is often suggesting a piece of hamburger or cheese. I know their digestive systems are not ready for that so I always tell him no. Happy....what is happy? Im content maybe. A little comfortable most of the time....considering ptsd.

Im deliberately doing this work while he is out of town. When he is home, I have to stop what Im doing to get dinner every night. Now I can just make a bowl of soup and crash at the end of the day.

I’m jealous! You say your content? That’s my end goal for this journey. Contentment will do for me quite nicely. Glad you are there! Happy painting. Good luck
 
Hi @brat17 , I know you've had lots of good feedback, but I hope you don't mind if I add something, though I fear it might not be well received because it's inward-focused, not outwards, and a bit of a different perspective. But 'passive-aggressive' caught my eye. This is JMHO as it applies/ has applied to myself, and my experiences, so I say it humbly, having raised many puppies; having ptsd; thinking someone must be passive-aggressive by their behaviours (surely?), and respecting relationships, and individual persons.

He left this morning for a week long trip with the guys. Im good with that. He was aware that I am doing some serious painting and stripping of wallpaper.. Its a big job but our house needs it, and he usually sits while I work and that pissed me off so its a good time since her will be gone for a week..

We have a new puppy who is 14 weeks old ( got him at 8 weeks. He sent me a couple messages today, asking how the pup is. Not how I am, not how by paining is coming. ( I painted from noon til 2 am. I took many breaks for the pup.Pup had been a little sad being gated part of the day, but all of a sudden he had diahria all over the house. Ive been cleaning it up for house
As others have said, puppies are like babies- will eat anything; may have a bacteria like enterobacter (especially if not kept rigorously clean); may even be affected by the paint fumes, unless it only preceded it. But they are fragile and sensitive.
Not a doubt in my mind that he fed him something at 5 am before he left. Im not a treat with ptsd so I feel like I have to accept it. Any thoughts.
He may very well have- and love the puppy (as you said).

A loved one who lived with me used to do this- I would get so angry, and frustrated, and at my wit's end. I thought this (and other behaviours) were a sign of passive-aggressiveness. I was so wrong. I treated them so unfairly, albeit out of ignorance, but it was so wrong it was shameful. They had their reasons for doing what they did, which weren't explained by my thoughts about it, and their history. Additionally in their case they also had ADHD- with a strong emphasis on the 'H', too- which I knew but had no idea what that 'meant'. (And also in fact thought it surely couldn't apply to me because they were 'really' hyper, therefore I could not have ADHD- they did, as I knew they did. I, and almost all of my family just had just 'more energy' than 'the norm', but 'she' was 'hyperactive'). It was only in learning (and it was after they died) what it meant as how it impacted their memory, impulse control, etc, that I realized how wrong I was, why some behaviours occurred as they did, and also how grossly alone, under-valued and misunderstood she must have felt. Not to mention how forgiving she was- to have had to deal with that ignorance from me. So the warning is, if it doesn't entirely 'fit'- it's my experience that 'judgement'- and it is judgement- isn't always accurate. (My loved one, like the puppy she was fragile and sensitive too. But buried it.)

It is also picking out probably the most negative alternative explanation one could choose: that the behaviour is 100% willful, harmful, and intentional to cause harm. (And there perhaps goes: + ptsd = unsafety = 'boom'. :( ) As @Sideways said:

It’s interesting to me that puppy having the runs (totally normal for young puppies) instantly makes you question your partner and whether he had something to do with it. Because, not only is puppy having the runs reeeally normal, it suggests that there’s really really mammoth trust issues going on for you here.

If someone came to me at work with “my puppy has the runs”, even just wondering if the pup was deliberately misfed would be a long long way down the list of likely causes. That speaks to the trust issues here for you, and just how front and centre they still are for you maybe...?

And here come the trust issues. But also I say this kindly and rigorously against myself- those issues are (my) own. Not across the board, but definitely when feeling unsafe (which in turn is fed by my own body/ mind).

You say the break away is good; maybe like me you are fearful avoidant (or dismissive avoidant, with anxiety, I don't know the difference for myself really, as both apply in turn?). Maybe he doesn't bring up painting because he forgot (truly), or because he feels guilty you're doing it, but relieved because he hates it? Maybe he thinks you are happy to do the painting, and if not, have you communicated why not? Maybe he finds it hard to get started? Maybe you feel resentful he's left you to (choose?) to paint? Etc etc. No one likes to always get all the 'crappy' jobs- but for one person one job is better/ more likable or less 'dislikable', or one part of the job is. Or you can do it together to get it done faster to do something you both like more together. Or out of love. And to remember to recognize what they do that you don't have to do (understandable to not think of that, when feeling negative, or neglected, or ambivalent, or angry, or self-pity. Including hating the limits ptsd imposes, or how it tries to suck out energy, happiness, peace of mind). And to have gratitude for what you can do, and what they do, and for them. And for the relationship.

What I mean is, and say this about myself and emphasize ptsd- I can be a lot of work. I 'am' a lot of work, to understand. People in general and relationships are a lot of work. Ptsd heightens (for me) unsafety, mistrust, confusion. F.E.A.R. Loss. Frustration. But, it is my responsibility to take responsibility for how what I do, or say, (or believe- my internal climate), affects how others feel, and too how they will respond in kind. Because it is very hard for another person (or one's self) to be treated with an underlying current of mistrust, or assumed negativity or what-have-you. Which doesn't mean you're not entitled to what you feel- but how can anything be resolved or even clarified without open-minded/ open-hearted speaking/ living/ thinking? You have 33 years together, but maybe there is lots to learn about each other! (In a good way! :) ) Plus, there is always something knew you never knew.

I hope your pup gets turned around (if necessary to get them to the vet, and make sure you can get water in them- dehydration with a puppy is extremely dangerous), your painting looks marvelous, and you rejoice in the beauty and your accomplishment, and you reconnect with your H and both find a more joyful way. It might even start with re-committing that you are both choosing to make a go of it together, and maybe in ways you both enjoy more (the ways you both feel more safe and loved). What does he need? What do you need? You both need safety and unconditional positive self-and-other regard. You have ptsd. He chooses to love you. You are posting here to try to love him back in a better way for both of you. I think that's a win-win, in my books.

Best wishes to you (and have some rest and fun too. It's been a while since you painted, the whole thing needn't be done in one week ). :hug:
 
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Complicated situation.

Everything has been really well addressed / I really only have one thing to add, and it’s more something to consider...

Being angry at someone is a way to keep them present in your life.

It’s not the way I usually do things, I like smilin when I think of someone, but I’ve been guilty of it a few times when missing them would have been a problem.
 
That's a unique way to put it @Friday . Though I think (just for me) being angry feels more like a response to a threat- I feel the anger as a defense (brief and relatively momentary) against my fear of what harm the other will cause, or why I was so stupid to trust, or how can I get the courage to get away? (Unless I'm just being a jerk and/ or a bad mood, or selfish/ wanting my own way). So I guess anger= feeling unsafe, for me. I try not to think of what/ who causes me pain, or fear. Or I (eventually) feel anger briefly to try to rid my mind of thoughts of people who's thoughts of them bring fear to me, or in response to feeling guilt or trying to explain to myself why it's ok to say 'no', or have boundaries, or say this harms me. Mostly I feel 'normal' anger if I feel used or lied to, but again it's in the regard to unsafety. (Probably pride, too. Or anger at myself for trusting).

I can see feeling anger or self pity being left to do a job. But then there is free will/ personal choice to do it, and what to feel about it. Maybe there is a way @brat17 could negotiate with her H? If it's seen as their mutual goal it's easier to split the tasks up. And plan a little, maybe? (Personally my body is breaking down so much I'm glad when it (and my mind) cooperates to let me get something done! ??? )

My question(s) would be, what is his experience with dogs/ puppies, before this? And his history. And is there a way they both can safely talk about what they're thinking/ feeling? Because maybe the "pup's diarrhea" is touching more on @brat17 's fears or feelings her H doesn't love her as she needs to feel loved? Because if it didn't come with the thought 'he caused this, and did it on purpose', would she feel differently? (And only you know what you feel @brat17 , and what you're thinking, and what you fear. )

It might be very complicated :(, the only 2 people who can decipher their relationship are each other.
 
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Okay, so things don’t “need” to be painted every 7 years. That might be your standard, your preference, but it’s clearly not his preference.

He doesn’t want to paint the house.
He doesn’t like doing housework.
That makes him...pretty normal.

Think about the last time someone put this much pressure on you to do something you hated, and how that felt... It’s not a nice feeling.

I’m sorry you hate painting. But it’s clearly not the same priority for him that it is for you. That’s normal relationship stuff. It doesn’t make him passive aggressive, it doesn’t make him unreasonable. I hear you that it really frustrating for you because you’d really like the painting done now, but it’s clearly not that much of a priority for him, and he doesn’t want to.

I still think there’s room for a bit more flexibility in your approach here. He doesn’t want to do the painting, and you feel frustrated by that.

Doesn’t make either of you bad people, passive aggressive, or whatever. It just makes you 2 humans with different priorities.
 
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