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Relationship Pushed Away By A Marine With Combat Ptsd.. Not Sure How To Handle This?

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First of all, it is absolutely astonishing to see the amount of men and women out here going through this. Up until recently I didn't realize how serious PTSD was, and the impact it made on families. I never really thought twice about it. I am so happy to have found this forum, as now I understand and am going through a very difficult situation with my Marine. Sorry that this is long but I feel like I need to give a back story!

Just as some back information.. he's one of the quietest people I know. He's not very good with expressing his emotions.. where I on the other hand am a little more open about things (what woman isn't?). I'm not going to say he's terrible, but he struggles with his emotions a lot. He tells me that it's part of how the military trained him.. to just deal with things as they come at you and don't think too much about it. Because of this he's developed this non chalant attitude about everything. Me, his family, friends.. he can shut his emotions off in the blink of an eye. He'd expressed that he felt like something was wrong with him, because things that should bother him, don't phase him. He doesn't have the best relationship with his mom.. and as many times as he's told himself to try and fix it, he just finds himself not caring to put in the effort. He wants to, but he just can't come to grip with the desire to actually do so. He hasn't had his dad since he was 13 due to some very unfortunate circumstances that I'd rather not get into, but he told me he thinks about it every day. He misses his dad and I know this has a lot to do with the way he is.. trust issues and anger issues. Because of what happened to his dad he thinks that's why he is so distant from his family, and why he just can't 'connect' with them.. why he's so angry at them.. even though the situation was beyond all of their control as far as the story that I know goes. He's opened up to me more than he's ever opened up to any of his other friends, something I appreciated more than anything.. that he had that type of trust in me. Him & I were the true definition of best friends turning into lovers!

We got together in July 2010 after he got back from his 1st deployment, and I noticed he was very jumpy (even in his sleep), less patient, more angry, and he said even he had noticed a difference. I knew he had ran over an IED and gotten a concussion (amongst other things) so I knew that obviously had something to do with it. I didn't really think twice about it though because he didn't complain any more than usual. In November 2010 he found out he was deploying back to Afghanistan in July 2011, and broke up with me because he couldn't handle the relationship etc etc. We got together a few days later, only for him to break up with me again in April 2011 because he was unsure of his feelings, too busy with training. He ended up still coming home all the time to visit me, meeting half way. I tried to figure out what 'we' were before he left in July, but it did not happen. He said he felt too much pressure and we'd see where things went. I couldn't do that, because I was already so unsure for the past few months and then he was leaving for 7.. my anxiety was through the roof!

I told myself I'd wait, but about 2 months into his deployment, I couldn't do it anymore. I'd get phone calls or letters, but there was no emotion. I wanted to tell him how much I loved him and missed him, but just couldn't because I felt I was talking to a brick wall behind the computer screen or phone line. I know he was deployed, but I was getting close to nothing from him. I told him I couldn't do it, and he understood and stopped talking to me completely for a couple weeks. We started talking again just as friends, and during that time I took a trip with a friend and on the trip I met a fun guy. We hung out the entire long weekend and my 'ex' saw it all over facebook (which I no longer have!). The day after I'd gotten home, I got a call from his brother that he'd been shot and was most likely coming home. I was freaking out because I knew he had seen everything and had told me the night before that it put him in a 'blah' mood. He ended up coming home, and confessing his love to me. He told me he always loved me and he knew I loved him too, but I was seeing the other guy. He said he never knew how to show me that he loved me.. he struggled showing me. I felt bad, horrible actually, that I was so angry and upset at him that I wouldn't even give him the chance. I was with someone else and I wanted to see where that went. He told me he made the biggest mistake of his life, kept begging me for another chance, and reiterating how much I meant to him. He was heartbroken and told me he'd love me forever. Long story short, the guy and I didn't work out, and I ended up talking to my ex again.

At first he was very angry, telling me how much it hurt him to see that and to be pushed away and he felt like he was my 2nd choice, which totally wasn't the case. I really ended up missing him, but good luck convincing him of that. Slowly but surely things got back to normal, and we continued on. He decided it was time to see a therapist, because he was very angry (not at me, but in general) and suffering from memory loss. I don't know the total outcome of it as he didn't really open up to me, or anyone for that matter, but I do know the therapist tried giving him meds that he didn't want to get involved with, and put him in group therapy. He was doing good for awhile, and I noticed a big change in his demeanor. He was handling our conflicts better, telling me he was trying not to get frustrated so easily anymore regarding us. I kept telling everyone how great things were going and how much of a difference I noticed. Then I found out he wasn't sleeping right.. that he was up all night tossing and turning. So he prescribed him melatonin since he wanted a natural alternative.

He got an opportunity to join a medical study in Pensacola for 2 months, and he took it. He's still in Pensacola as we speak (until Saturday), but something in Pensacola changed him. I know he's a home body, he likes to stay in and watch movies/tv instead of spending his money. But in Pensacola he was hardly doing anything. He obviously wasn't seeing his therapist or going to group therapy anymore. His sleeping problems got even worse. We met up one weekend and I must have woken up 4 times in the middle of the night with him wide awake telling me he just can't sleep. Unless he takes the melatonin, he doesn't sleep. He'll stay up until 4-5am then sleep all day after he does his study. He was getting more and more frustrated when anything between us came up, I had to start walking on egg shells just to avoid an argument. This alone was causing me to feel neglected and unhappy. He was very frustrated one day and mentioned PTSD and told me he feels detached from everything in the world. We tried to work through it, but things were just getting harder and harder.. and finally last week he ended things. He told me he loves me and it has absolutely nothing to do with me. But he says that he can't keep doing this to me because he's "an idiot" as he called himself.. and told me that right now he can't give me all the love and attention I deserve. He told me he's a very angry person and he can't connect to any of his emotions anymore.. that he doesn't know how to have that emotional attachment. He says that things used to be easier for him but he's struggling to find any emotion for anything.. again not just with me but with family and friends as well. He just keeps telling me something is wrong with him, and he really wants to be my friend while he works through this but he wants me to have the freedom to find happiness elsewhere until he knows he can treat me the way I deserve to be treated, "like the queen that I am".

Naturally I tried telling him I want to be next to him during this time.. I told him I'd be there for him through this but he says he can't do it. He can't keep seeing me upset, and all he wants is for me to be happy. I know he's very frustrated that he feels he can't make me happy, and I feel semi guilty that I couldn't just control my emotions more and not make him feel like he wasn't doing enough. He read up some more on PTSD that I sent him.. I know he's confused and I just feel like he's going through a hard time right now. He hardly has any real friends as it is.. I'm the absolute closest person to him, and he's cutting me out. Only people he sees/talks to are his Marine friends and it's breaking my heart that he'd want to cut me of all people out. This guy is my best friend, my rock, he is the love of my life and we've been on such a challenging road with only 8 months until he's home, and I feel like he's giving up. He keeps telling me he hasn't closed the book on us or given up on us, and that hopefully we can have that fairy tale ending once he gets everything worked out if some other guy doesn't come along in my life. I'm struggling because I want to stay with him and help him in any way that I can. I have been reading a lot and I know just plain being there for him is going to help him, but I am totally heart broken. I miss him more than anything. He'll be here on Monday for a few days for 4th of July and I just don't know how things are going to go between us. I just saw him 2 weeks ago and things were great.. such a nice weekend together and then this. All he keeps telling me is that he wants me to be happy.. but I am happy with him and I'd be happy to be there for him just as he's always been there for me. I'm upset because we broke up last year and I felt the same way.. even though I know this PTSD has hit him way harder this time around. The thought of him or myself with anyone else just makes no sense to me. In love I feel like you're there through thick and thin, and just because he's having a hard time I wouldn't want to move on to someone "better" or more stable. I love him no matter what. He's been there for me through some huge challenges in my life and I wish I could give him that same satisfaction. But for some reason he feels like he needs to be alone. Maybe the relationship was too much pressure? Maybe he really just needs some time to reflect, seek therapy? He tells me that until he knows for sure that he can treat me the way I deserve to be treated that he can't do this. I feel horrible, and part of me blames myself for not making things easier. Any advice how to deal with this? My anxiety has been very hard to deal with (I have been diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder as it is) and I am just stuck feeling lost right now. I want to talk to him and I want my best friend back.. but it's so hard because he's completely pushing me away.. even though he says he loves me :( I'm trying to research to help me and him out through this time, and I figured the best place for any advice would be here. Anyone?
 
Hi Jacqueline,

Your story sounds very familiar. I know how brokenhearted you are.

My boyfriend is in Baghdad as we speak as a contractor and he broke up with me out of nowhere for something that he imagined in his head. He just absolutely picked a fight to leave me. I haven't spoken to him in a month and I'm devastated.

I hope your 4th of July weekend with your boyfriend brings you some clarity and I will send out a prayer for both of you. Maybe when you get this message you can send one for me.

I too am astonished at the amount of women and men going through this. Its very isolating because no one understands, therefore, I can't reach out to talk to friends because this PTSD is a mystery.

Right before my boyfriend deployed he was very clear about my importance to him, that he loves me, misses me, to please wait for him and that he would take me on a vacation, all the dreams. 2 days after he got there he ended it and told me I was poisonous and bad for his health...this has taken my self worth down a few notches....(understatement). I have no answers.

We have been together about the same time as you and even lived together and in the recent months before he deployed the anger and moodiness got worse. The detached feeling is so eerie...the energy of the room...the confusion. I can say that these men certainly are very lucky to have our love and understanding. I've been his friend through out it all and I'm sure you have too.

I'm really trying to keep it together right now. Please check in and let us know how your visit went.

I'm wishing you and him peace and joy.
 
You can't blame yourself, and you couldn't have made things any easier- even though you want(ed) to. I also suffer from anxiety, more so now, then ever, because I am dealing with my boyfriend who also has combat PTSD from when he was deployed in Iraq. I know the type of feelings you are having, and trust me it doesn't become any easier as time goes on. I maybe see my boyfriend once a week, if I am lucky. He pushes me away just like yours did Jacqueline. I have been dating him for about 3 months now, and I am trying to hold on, because I love him then words can describe. I feel like I have to pry information out of him, because he doesn't express his feelings easy, and I feel like I bother/ annoy him when I get him to talk.

You should let him know that you are here for him and that you do still care about him. That is pretty much all you can do at this point. I am still with my boyfriend, and I am at this point unfortunately, but it has happened. I hope this some what helps, if not I am sorry :/
 
I, too, have a story that is similiar to yours (though we were only together for 2 months). Great relationship, talked about doing things together in the future, amazing sex, etc. Then all of a sudden, the e-mails/texts/phone calls stopped. He had asked me right away in the relationship if I had ever dated anyone in the military...then he told me he suffers from PTSD. I didn't know what this meant. He would say that he didn't sleep well the night before - I had no idea this was part of PTSD. The last time we saw each other, he told me he was excessively sweating and didn't know why. After researching, I found that this is one of the symptoms of PTSD. He also has weapons (knives) placed strategically around his apartment.

It's like he completely forgot everything that happened over the last 2 months. I had made a comment that maybe I was seeing what our relationship was differently than he did, which he agreed was true. Then he said that he got scared about how serious we were getting.

So is this a PTSD thing? Or is this a typical relationship thing?

I fell pretty hard for this guy - and I think he is amazing. It's so unfortunate that this is happening.

How did the 4th of July go?
 
Hi Kster,

Is he getting any help? Don't ignore the red flags.

I fell hard for someone who became a different person overnight. I loved him, wanted to spend my life with him but had to find healing for myself and let go.

Its a roller coaster ride. It is nothing but heartache and pain if they do not get the assistance they need. I'm just being blunt.

I was in denial for a long time because I thought I found my soulmate and as time went on, my self esteem and self worth was slowly deteriorating after being pushed away every few weeks, ignored. Never being shown that I was important and he didn't have any empathy for my feelings, nor did he ever take any responsibility for the mean things he would say to me. I was always defeated and depressed for not feeling loved.

I am still praying for a miracle but PTSD is not a joke. Read, read , read about it. You will get answers by communicating in this wonderful forum and reading.

I know you care about him....but you come first. If you are feeling bad all the time and second guessing yourself and what you should say, could say, don't bother. Its not you and its not your fault. We can love them all we want but if they don't feel it....what can we do?

If you want to stay in this relationship with him....keep loving him...some days it will be returned. Most days it won't. You choose your path.

I don't mean to sound negative, but I've experienced several realizations in this huge learning experience.

My boyfriend? Deployed right now....completely cut me off...completely.....he returns in 57 days...yes I'm still counting on his physical return ....I'm not counting on his emotional return to me...... Let go and let God.

I wish you much peace.
 
Thank you, Celia. I really appreciate your input...and you are right, WE ALL NEED to take care of ourselves!

As much as I like this guy, I know it's for the best that we don't have a relationship. And for the sake of my sanity, I hope I never get that call or text saying, "I miss you...come over."
 
I read your post. From what I understand he just can't deal with you being disappointed in him and expecting him to show emotions when his emotions are kind of blocked. He would probably prefer casual relationships that don't involve emotion. If you really want him maybe try to change your expectations and try to be less emotional. Its obviously difficult because as women we do tend of think with our heart.

You have no reason to feel guilty. It will help you and him if you don't feel guilty. You didn't choose to be in these circumstances and you didn't do any think wrong. is your anxiety because of him?
 
Hi Kster,

Maybe in his state he can't handle a serious relationship. So, try to think of your self that you don't get hurt.
 
Hi Jacqueline,

Like the others who have already replied, your story is SO familiar. It always helps me to just come here and read the stories of other women who love a man with combat PTSD... it's comforting to know I'm not alone. No one can ever understand unless they love a veteran with combat PTSD. I can't talk to anyone else about this except for my boyfriend's mom (who, luckily, I'm very close to). Loving my boyfriend and being in this relationship is the most challenging thing I've ever had to do... and very likely will be the most challenging thing I will ever do in my entire life. He pushes me away and I know he wants to run when he feels like we're getting too close. He is terrified - absolutely terrified - of commitment because he can't take the thought of possibly losing me. He's broken my heart over and over again. He tells me that he's "numb inside" and it just absolutely tears me apart to see the kind of pain that he's in.

But somehow we are still together and we still love each other. This is not an easy road. I wish I could offer words of wisdom or a way to help deal with all of this... unfortunately I don't have any easy answers. I just try my best to be there for him. I try to let him know that I'm not going anywhere... he's not going to lose me. The only thing you can do is be patient and be strong. But be good to yourself. This is not your fault and you cannot control this. If you get to the point where it becomes too much... put yourself first. Because you can't help him if you are in over your head. I hope that he can figure things out for himself and come back to you. I really feel for you because I know exactly what you're going through. Hang in there and stay tough.
 
Hey Jacqueline,

I definitely know what you are going through. My husband is in the Marines, 0311 or Infantry to be exact. Prior to us meeting, he has had two deployments to Afghanistan...both which have resulted in the loss of many friends and horrific scenes. When we first met, we both laid it all out on the table. He explained to me some of the things he had seen, done, and experienced. Something I'd wish for no human to go through. He stated that he didn't sleep much which i suppose was red flag # 1. Prior to our relationship, he stated that he had developed quite an issue with alcohol mainly after his second deployment but, since our dating it seemed to mellow. As time progressed, i tried to bring up his deployments to get him to talk about it but, often times a honest answer only came after quite a few drinks.

There were times, he seemed emotionless, disinterested, depressed, and feeling worthless. If you try and address the issue, he simply would shut down. There were also times he could be easily angered over nothing, his temper becomes violent almost like blind rage i guess is the only way i can describe it. In these moments, it's so hard to keep your cool and not lose it. He'll say things like "I'm so sick of you." "I hate you" "let's just end this" Yet, if you knew him you'd know we are crazy in love and he'd didnt mean those things. In those moments, I am heartbroken and have to walk away. It's hard to not let them get to you. He's seeing a doctor on base for sleep meds and all but, I think there's still work to be done. It is definitely walking on egg shells.

Know that you are not alone. I love my husband more than anything but it doesn't mean our journey is going to be easy. Heck, it's not going to be easy for them easier. They feel as though they can "Handle it themselves" but, they can not. My husband as well has said "i just want you to be happy" Often times, hours or days later he comes to his senses and apologizes. it doesn't mean the damage hasn't already been done. my advice: keep fighting if you love him as much as i think you do. know you are doing your best and it's all you can do. it's going to take quite some time and effort...its not going to change over it. but stay strong
 
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