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Scared i cant do what i want

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no I'm not even underweight.i just want to lose 10 pounds and I'm scared ill get in trouble if someone thinks I'm skinny and they will b like ooo shes anorexic, she needs treatment and make me gain weight..or if I was 500 pounds someone would take me to a treatment center to lose weight
 
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ill get in trouble if someone thinks I'm skinny and they will b like ooo shes anorexic, she needs treatment and make me gain weight..or if I was 500 pounds someone would take me to a treatment center to lose weight
Do you know many people who fit these body types, are actually forced into treatment (which is very different from guardianship btw) at any given time?
Very few.

It doesn't really work for someone who's forced into it. It's expensive, ineffective and just makes everyone involved spiteful and bitter.
It's the last way to go about controlling someone.
Again, it's not guardianship.
You are an adult.

If someone comes to your door saying you need to go off to fat camp, or something equally stupid. Here's a 100% legal and effective way of getting out of going with them.
Close. The. Door.

You can even use foul language if you want too.
Knock knock*
"Who's there?"
"We've come to take you off to fat camp!"
"f*ck you!"
SLAM!

Problem solved.

I don't understand where your getting this idea that you can just be incarcerated for a minor change in physical appearance.
If it was somehow possible to do this, don't you think Lady Gaga, Christina Aguillerriawhatsit, or hell Miley Cyrus! When she she shaved her head and started twerking all over the stage.

Nobody declared them mentally incompetent and locked them away. Think of the headlines? Every Joe Blow on earth could become famous for 15 minutes over committing a celebrity.
It doesn't happen.

As I mentioned earlier, this is also a very different thing than guardianship. An involuntary commitment, is a nuisance. No one else gets legal rights over you. You are held in a safe environment pending psychiatric evaluation. While this is taking place, everything about your own life, properties, assets, will, power of attorney. These are all still yours. You're just stuck in a boring room with nurses for a few hours.
And if someone tries pulling this same stunt over and over without reasonable justification, they not you, they. go to jail.

So unless you have a really terrible idea for losing those 10lbs? Or you only weigh 11lbs right now?
Then just do it.
Nobody's coming to drag you away.
 
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Do you know many people who fit these body types, are actually forced into treatment (which is ver...
idk what it is..just when I was younger I would get In trouble if I was too fat or too skinny....beaten....and it was every day..though no one can b fat one day skinny the next.i was also sexually abused for years 3 times a day...I felt no control over my body what so ever,,,well I just finished having my last baby..3rd baby..and I'm wanting to think about getting how I want my body now...and I keep feeling like ill get in trouble if they think I'm too skinny like in for the love of nancy..I know she was deathly skinny..but my brain seems to just see it as getting in trouble for weight..like how underweight would someone b for them to try guardianship... or.how overweight?
 
idk what it is..just when I was younger I would get In trouble if I was too fat or too skinny....beaten....and it was every day..though no one can b fat one day skinny the next.i was also sexually abused for years 3 times a day...I felt no control over my body what so ever,,,

You keep repeating this bit.

Which means you know WHY you feel this way.

The same way I know WHY I feel that cars parked on the side of the road = an ambush.

How likely is it that 3 cars parked along side the road in the US = an armed assault? I’m sure it’s happened, at least once, in all the gangland nonsense... but is it a common thing? Do cars blow up and men with automatic weapons surround your vehicle and drag you out (or shoot through your door)? Is it in the news every day?(or worse, so common that it doesn’t need to be in the news, just the list of disappeared). It’s super common where I used to live/work. Often an everyday thing, although they tended to come in waves. Every day in scattered places for a few days/week, quiet, every day again. Quiet again. Which made the threat omnipresent. I have a very real, and very legitimate reason for all of my alarm bells going off when there are cars left on the side of the road.

Serious question. Can you tell me, in this country, how likely it is that a car parked on the side of the road is loaded with explosives or about to be driven/pushed across the road, creating a roadblock?

Now what if I respond d to that answer by telling you about kidnap & ransom in Latin America? Okaaaaaaay. But this is Kansas. Not Latin America.

And I repeat, again, WHY I’m afraid of cars.

And you repeat, again, that this is Kansas. No one does that in Kansas.

But they do it in Latin America.

Kansas. We’re in KANSAS.

You see this infinite loop?

As long as I’m stuck on why my fear exists, instead of moving past my fear, we’re not in Kansas anymore. We’re in my head. Which isn’t real. It was real, somewhere else. But not now. I’m the only one making it real, by insisting that what was true somewhere else, in another time and place, is what’s real now. It’s not. Just because the same fear spikes, doesn’t mean it’s a legitimate fear, anymore. I know WHY I’m afraid. It was real, before. But it’s not real now. Because we’re in Kansas.

Knowing why? Is only as important as it helps us deal with the world that is, and not the world that was. It can be a hugely important step, but only if we don’t get stuck in it. Because that’s an infinite loop. You know why. Time to move onto HOW. Which means challenging your thinking.
 
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I think you need therapy.

I don’t think that posting on a forum is enough to help you given how ingrained these thoughts are.

You need someone to work with you one on one. I suggest CBT as it’s a great therapy for challenging your thoughts.

And really the expressed thoughts themselves are just the symptom. We could sit here all day long until the cows come home and try to help you with these thoughts but that won’t fix the underlying fear.

Work on becoming SAFE and the thoughts will lessen. And THEN you can work on challenging the thoughts.

Until then this will just be a circular conversation that goes nowhere.
 
how do I know it wont happen.....?? when there is a story about an anorexic girl who they took to court?...
Honestly, you don't know that it won't happen. People who are afraid being contaminated have some truth to their fears. People who are afraid of killing someone with their car have some truth to the fear. When the devil tempted Jesus in the wilderness he used some truth in his temptation. That's why the spikes can go on and on and on. These spikes of fear and terror is why ocd is a disease of "doubt." Truthfully it COULD happen. I mean seriously look at all the shit that happens all the time to all kinds of people and children! It could happen. It's not likely to happen, though. "What are the odds this will happen?" "is there a more helpful way of thinking about this?" Also, Could you "sit" in the emotions of that fear and allow those emotions to run through your body and mind; visualize the scary thing of getting committed happening to you, visualize that and don't try to not think about; don't try to stop the fear, don't try to get out of the emotions. Just sit in the emotions of it. Try doing that for 5 seconds. Then later try doing it for 30 seconds! Then later try doing that for a whole minute! Also I think that if you had childhood abuse and csa, then there is one or more frozen, scared little people inside you and he/she, (they?) do not know what year it is or that you are big now with resources and problem solving abilities. They may not even know you have had babies! They don't trust you to solve the problem, because they think you are still little.

(accidentally hit the wrong button).... could you try talking to yourself as you would a 3 year old, or 8 year old or 13 year old? What would you say to a scared little person about this situation? What words and what tone of voice would you use?
 
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If you don’t believe any of the things that we have said. I strongly suggest that you go speak to an attorney and get their advice. You seem hell bent on ignoring everything we’ve said/suggested so maybe an attorney who is educated in the law would be more helpful for you....
 
well I have an appointment to see a therapist...not till January 30rd....y cant I see one like now? ugh and y on the paper does it ask if u want to kill urself if they cant even see u for weeks ahead??
 
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