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Struggles You Thought You Conquered Resurfacing?

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HI,
Teddy, for the record the pity party I was refering to was mine, which is about all it sounded like after reading what I wrote... LOL. But thanks, your views are helpful and points well taken. It seems just, uh...beyond ironic that during many of the 12 years or so after my crash I could still manage to pull the rabbit out of the hat for the occasional PTSD sufferor I bumped into...shed some light/help despite all the bad days and nights. Lately I'm not much use to anybody and can barely keep my boat afloat. It almost makes me wish for those good old bad days when I was less "healthy" but had some life in my life.

I'm guessing it's an accumulation of the last 3 years stress from putting together business's and watching things crumble. Actually, if I made a list of the stressors it would be very long. Sometimes the mind/body has a way of making one take a break when needed, if that's the only way one will take a break. I guess it's break time, like it or not. It's all hard to adapt to when my "business" for 25 years, and more in recent years was dealing with other's stress/trauma. Now that I can't do the old "buiness" anymore, I'm finally well enough that I probably could...and feel useful....mentaly speaking, meaning memories, movies, feelings, flashbacks etc. probably would not stop me....and it took 10 years to get to that point.

Brontie, yes some times it ALL, just makes me beyond mad. In fact I felt better when I had some rage inside because, I think, I had some energy to do something positive with that rage.

Maybe the important point for us all is to not look at these things as being stuck in a hole. I think you touched on this Teddy ; it's more like a journey in which sometimes a traveler needs to rest for a time.

I don't think there is really an option as nobody will throw me a rope or ladder, and nobody will start throwing dirt in the hole so eventually I'm back to surface level......

Thanks for listening guys...
 
Yes, very well put, Teddie (I'm a bit scrambled, reading and writing at the same time...uhg...bear with me)
 
Hey all,
Mysihba,
Loved the bit in one of your posts where you say that ===Sometimes the mind/body has a way of making one take a break when needed, if that's the only way one will take a break.===
I have been pushing myself way too hard with the business if you take into account how revolting I really feel. But you know how it is, sometimes you just have to push yourself and get the work done.
Well on Sunday, I sprained my ankle so badly that I am now on crutches. The best part of that too is that I can't use crutches! I have a balance issue and so I have fallen over three times in three days, flat on my face, with the busted ankle. Grrrreat!! I just find the 'life' that you mention and BANG goes the ankle and I am holed up in a chair for who knows how long.
Obviously I need to be more kind to myself.
I am a firm believer in the universe telling you and if you don't listen then it will just 'get louder' until you do.
My foot at least has been a bit of a distraction and I have found one really good part to being able to 'disassociate'. - Brilliant when your ankle is agony and you are trying not to look like a crybaby.... LOL Damn doctors didn't help me in the end because they didn't realize how much pain I was in. LOL

Mysihba, I have been reading your posts above and have started to wonder whether you have fallen prey to the ideas that positive thinking can fix anything??
If you have then be careful how you process that stuff when it comes to PTSD.
Being the biggest 'positive thinker' junkie most people knew, I really got stuck on why I couldn't get my self together. It is not that simple as say it until you mean it etc etc. This is an illness and sometimes with every illness you must stop and put yourself first and take care of number one.
Believe me when I say I hear you with your business. I lost one when I had my accident as I had to just walk away from it because of the PTSD and then I started a new one that was PTSD friendly. Now it looks like that has turned into a monster and is doing the exact opposite of what I was trying to achieve with it. Now it is setting off the triggers that I set out to avoid.
How it all comes back around to teach us whether we like it or not????

Brontie, I was really angry a couple of months ago when I realized that I was a mess again and was in fact as bad if not worse than what I was 15 years ago. I was so mad and sad and damn didn't it get to me.
In the end, I just figured I was belting myself up like I did last time and as it didn't work last time I wasn't doing it again. Coming on here helped as I realized I wasn't the only one who had these feelings so I didn't feel 'stupid' any more. I had to force myself to come back for the first 3 or 4 times as some of the posts triggered off even more 'stuff'. In the end though I have found it helpful.
At least in writing my 'stuff', I have refreshed my memories on what to do and have realized that I can be a bit too hard on myself most days. I don't keep a diary as it usually makes me sink even further but some how on here I can talk about different bits of stuff and feel a bit better.
If you are angry then be angry. go jump up and down outside and tell the trees just how ticked off you are. I did it a couple of weeks ago while my friend was with me and in the end we were jumping up and down, yelling like nuts and laughing like mad. Somehow you can't be angry any more after that. Angry only builds if you hold it in. Like every other emotion.
I am sure I could have beaten every post on Youtube with my antics.

Just so you do know as I am so good at hiding it. I had a crap day today and hate being a physical invalid as much as I hate being a PTSD person. So I was as angry as hell and I was definatly in a hole and I just felt like some one was tossing more than dirt into the hole and none of it was helpful at all. I achieved nothing and couldn't wait for the damn day to be over!!
Some days are just horrid and I guess they are there to make me appreciate the good days. Last week I was tired and all I kept wanting to do was go lie down. As I always tell my kids, 'be careful what you wish for'.......
 
Teddy you make a good point. I'd like to respond if I'm up too it. I don't think i have fallen prey to positive thinking but agree with most all that what you said. Positive thinking can force one into and endless trip of more guilt, dissapointment and negating our experiences to the point of not accepting we have this disabiltiy. Just accepting that I had this dirty word ptsd took me a long time. God knows enough people judge, discriminate, negate my experiences, and disability, etc etc.

So, believeing one can think themselves healthy and recovered from ptsd is bunk and as you said a dangerous trap. The last 2 weeks have been some of the worst ever in terms of near out of control rage....to the point of scary. To the point I'm not sure I'm going to make it through. I don't like that. Telling somebody to think positive when they are in the midst of thinking about the people they would like to shoot..rrrrr...(don't call the cops)....is worse than BAD. Nobody that is clinicaly depressed gets better by being told...to "stop that". Can you all think of the "worst things" that were told you by people, both Pro's and not, that were far beyond damaging ? Or am I the only one ? So, yes I am as fed up with all the BS that was told to me , preached to me, thrown in my face and stuck into my back. In fact all that too is included in the total picture of current Rage along with every other incident over all these years.....The Emotion/Rage attached to ALL the loss, BS, judgement, mistreatment, injustice etc., ALL came roaring back in one Huge ball of hate/rage.

I was trying to make the point that for me....I have to learn to see...that all the emotion/rage I'm feeling right now are not from a current incident. All those emotions from all the years past just jumped on board. One could say then that for each of those past incidents....if rage is still there...they were not processed enough or need to be again, and that may be true.

What I'm trying to say ( but can't seem to uhhg...) I need to recoginze that all the rage I'm feeling right now is not from current circumstance. Most jumped on board from all the past. I don't think I will ever get the control I need untill I can stand back, and say, OK, most of this rage is not from (the blarring music i have to listen to right now). Making that differentiation is the only hope of gaining some control. Knowing the emotional hate/rage I'm feeling right now are not from the music(am I pissed, am I triggered etc..YES). Untill I can step back and look at it in this way I am in no way capable of "handling" the current problem in a decent way. The rage and the hate say inside some deep spot within......vengance is mine right now and I don't care if i go to jail cause the SOB deserves everything he gets....cause he's going to "get" what everybody...all injustice in the past deserve and never got.....and I'm not putting up with it any more, ever....).

I Have to be able to look at it from the outside in this way. I'm not saying forget the past. I'm not saying don't screw with me anymore. I'm not saying that I still don't some times need.....justice served. What I am saying is I HAVE to be able to keep as much of the past in the past. It is in the PAST. Do I need to work on past issues some more...probably. But allowing all that past to cause and create total, right now, out of control Rage just puts me square back in the middle of being a Victim. At some level I have to make a conscious decision to put and place the past in the PAST and keep it there, right or wrong, easy or not,....I have to. I can never get better, or get more control, or get past these grand over reactions if I don't finally say....it is in the past, don't care, I'll deal with what I need to. Anything else is allowing all my past to control me Right NOW. None of us will get better to the point of having that "life back" if we can't figure out how to live in today after breaking the rear view mirror. All efforts made to get "better" are a complete waste if we don't get past the past. It ALL is about Control or lack thereof. I don't want ptsd or my past to control me anymore.

So it's not all about "positive thinking" in the sense you used it, I believe. It is all about positive thinking in terms of....things won't get better if i believe they won't ; I can and will not allow the past to control today(am I mad, pissed and want some justice....hell yes...but it's better....cause I'm trying....to make the event right now....be only about right now....not the people I thought bout shooting years ago, etc.

Most importantly is this concept that we radiate out to the whole world what we are "feeling" inside. That is primarily why my life is gone. When i get to the point of not "feeling" all the past emotions most of the time, and start seeing today as today and I'm OK (screw you if you don't think I am) I just may get smiles back, if given, and acceptance and some positives....if i can project some out.

I am SOOOO sick of trying to put a smiling face on....if i hear that again I'm going to scream. The flip side is I can do so more often and progressively find out that it doesn't hurt so bad when I decide that today is not that bad. Most of my days are bad because i either think of, or am reminded of all the past bad days.....and those emotions then follow without my being aware of it...just underneath the skin......and are then reflcected out to others who respond in kind. No wonder it was another bad day.

It will take me time....days or weeks to come down out of this complete rage. It is not easy. It will not take as long if I decide to "take control back" and demand to see the good side of today....and get better each day at keeping the past in the past, and recognizing that I feel like hell right now....because of the past mostly.

Sorry about the rambling. A positve attitude (different for us all) is necessary to get better and to get out of the victim mentality which most PTSD sufferors have to get out of. (how the hell did I end up back over my head in this.......again?). Everything from the past jumped on my fire, again. In part because I allowed it. In part because I was so overwhelmed with too too much....I couldn't stop it, in part because to some degree it can be "hard wired" from all the trauma. That which is hard wired can be replace with new and improved circuits.....just takes work if that's where you are at re EMDR etc. Sometimes that wiring replaces itself by shutting out yesterday and finding....the absence of BAD in today. I didn't say the wonderful good of today...just notice the absence of really bad.......then the good will slowly start to show. And tell yesterdays hells to go back to hell and stay there. And then don't kick your own but for the days in which they creep back in. Each time is a little easier. Always, I sometimes need somebody else to tell me when....Hell and the past is ruling my day.

I'm reminded of the years when each day was full of flashbacks and more, not to mention the nights. I haven't had a real flashback for a couple of years....just a host of other sumptoms. Those things are not as obvious as a flashback. I don't automatically connect(or at some level my mind doesn't) the axiety/rage/depression with
trauma/ptsd. I KNOW all the manifestations....but somehow disconnect with them...and end up thinking...why now? Some were learned over the years.....(oh yeah, this too is common or not so common with ptsd)...(OH...this is an anniversary of trauma x....and guess what, I automatically feel like hell and didn't know why for years) etc

Perhaps the most important question I have asked victims of certain crimes ove the years is....do you really want that ***&%#@@ to continue to control your life then, now and forever ?? It's up to you to make that decison....not always simple but starts with that decision
 
I am so frustrated with myself! A few things I fully believed I was in control of that have slapped me in the face once again:

I feel your pain, Grace. I go through periods of time where I am good and everything in my life is okay and I feel "normal" but sometimes I slip in to my scared little girl costume and I can't eat and I cant sleep and I am afraid of everything. My husband doesn't get it. I feel so alone. I feel this deep hollow pain in my chest all the time.

Your not alone though. There is always someone who will listen.
 
Wow, Mysihba - you've given me a lot to think about and a lot to discuss with my fiance (who has a lot more rage issues than I do). Thank you for that.
 
Hey Mysihba,
I feel it and I get your pain.
I hope you will read my email to you and chat with me.
I can't tell you why we regress back into all the garbage when we feel we have moved on, but I can tell you that you are not alone with this one. You at least have me. LOL
I agree with the 'start by making a decision' but I have found that it is still a long haul up sometimes and this can be damn frustrating and I sure get angry with it. Unfortunately a decision alone is not a cure.
Keep venting as it does help. My thoughts are with you....
 
I hope it helps a bit Reclusive ! Thanks so much Teddy. In my view a decison has to come first...yeah it's not a cure. And THANK YOU...see my answer to you
 
Very frustrated today after a hard weekend of PTSD 'stuff'. I seem to be so disconnected that I can't even feel the crash coming until it is on me. I am finding it so hard to get into crowds again. Same old stuff and now it seems doubly hard as there is no 'accident' to blame. Totally freaked out inside and looked totally normal on the outside. Sick of hiding and yet if I let it show it would just be a crazy place.
I think I am going mad....
 
One things for sure, you are not going mad. You are simply becoming overwhelmed with it all. We all have our own way of dealing with that. Mine is to shut myself away for some peace and quiet, no net, no reading, no research. Just stick a DVD in the player and chill. I think a tub of ice cream comes in there too someplace. Thankfully my family seem to recognise the signs and leave it a few days before calling or coming round.
 
Yeah. Sounds like being overwhelmedandneeding some space for a bit. I am in smething of the same boat, I think, but in my case it apparently stems from my last therapy session. Hadn't expected that.

If you can give yourself some regrouping time, definately go ahead and do it.
 
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