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The Difference Between The Services

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I was a staff. I was busted one rank for striking an officer(he really did have it coming)
6.5 years in was held over for the first gulf war for 2.5 years. I was a hard charging green machine up to the end of the war....I watched a lot of other guys going home and I was told to stay. That took a lot out of me. I was an 0231

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...not to laugh RD, but nearly the same thing happened to me!!!!!!! At the time I was a SSgt and one of the guys in my platoon tried to stab me so I...let's just say messed him up...BAD. They wanted to give me a letter of repremand, but me being a young angry Marine said "HELL NO I'M NOT SIGNING THAT" and requested a courtmartial hearing which I won, BUT my NCO eval was a couple months after and they BONED me on that and took away my Gunny. I should have taken the slap on the wrist, but hell...I was young and dumb and full of "pride". After that I left the Marines and went to the Army...BIG MISTAKE...and became a Ranger and Ranger instructor. MAN, I should have stayed in the Marines!!!! I tried to go back into the Marines a couple months ago, but they told me I was basically too "old and crusty"!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! They changed my MOS designator, I was a 8265 Force Recon, scuba airborn qualified, but now-a-days I guess they call it at a 0321. I spent my last 2 years as a 0361 as a platoon SGT. BTW...some officers deserved to be punched...I never met a Captian I ever liked at least the LT's were young and had the sense beaten into them.
 
I was amphibious intelligence warfare, Humit.
I had my badges as well for jump and scuba school I was qualified in rebreather and nighttime underwater navigation. (long before GPS was used) I knew how to do a beach survey better than most Seals can.
Being attached to Recon Means you do everything they do and sometimes more.
I was sent to Honduras for operation Golden pheasent, I spent time in both Columbia and Panama as well as the 1st gulf war.
It was a big shock to go from humid triple canopy jungle to the desert. I had no knowledge of how to operate. You learn quickly.
I took the njp article 14 and still lost a stripe. Same thing denied promotion due to delayed good conduct ribbon. BS but hey its the crotch whacha gonna do?
There were some good Army guys but a lot of the ones I ran into at Benning were real young and they thought they were the best. First morning we got up at 330am to do our own pt and then we arrived to do thiers as well at 630. That blew them away. We did thier run as a cool down.
I have a lot of good memories. I just wish the bad ones could get out.
I was on my way out after 4 and was held another 2.5 years. I collected 2 purple hearts. My 3rd injury was non combat related (land mine after the gulf war)
Like you I wanted to stay in at that point (changed every day) I fought the discharge. But my last injury changed allof that. I was classified RE-3p honerable. Basics of it means they would dig up my dead grandmother before I could go back in. It sucked for a while but I know I would have become unable to do the in the rear with the gear crap. I never really enjoyed spitshining boots or marching. And painting little rocks white as a pfc ...well...I am glad that was only one day of hell. I know it now that I was a mess but I thought I was normal at that time.
 
Haha! Hey for you that was funny! Is somebody helping you with the replies?

Nobody is helping me. I just don't want to offend you Sensitive New Age Guys, or SNAGS. Which is more of a naval term.

The rest of you are Conservative Understanding Nineties Types............

Nah, I appreciate the humor. I have always had it, but as you will all agree sometimes there is just nothing to laugh at other that ourselves.
 
I took the njp article 14 and still lost a stripe. Same thing denied promotion due to delayed good conduct ribbon. BS but hey its the crotch whacha gonna do?

I lost my good conduct ribbon my first 5 months in...........Does this surprise anyone? But I made E5 in 4 years. Almost re-enlisted for LCAC's. 50knots on water. Whoopeee!!! But my last Navigator and Chief were such idiots, I couldn't bear the thought of ever running in to them again. They even called me on Terminal leave to try to get me back in. I had to laugh.
 
While i know this is meant to be a joke. I have always hated these type of posts. I know that a lot of the Air Force dont do anything but sit in their office and mess up paperwork (finance, personnel, etc) however, there is a few of us that do go outside-the-wire and are out there "on-the-ground" I slept under the stars with the army. ate what they ate, was right there with them each mission day in and day out. There were some army units that were dickheads to me because i was Air Force and they thought i couldnt hack it. Well, they were quickly proven wrong in various situations. Ive never been one to trash talk the services. Everyone does a job (even though i admit, i am biter against people that work in offices and have the cushy jobs) but that is with all the services..
Sorry for this but I had to reply to your post with a funny (true) report of what happened at JRTC in Ft. Polk LA.

I was part of the qrf and we were expecting the west area, where the AF area was, to be hit hard. SoI got out there dug a hasty beside the shoddily dug fox hole. No grenade sump or anything. Then after this, we went in for chow. I got to chewing the fat (shooting the shit) with an airman and decided to ask him about the BSA.

"Hey airdale, where is your BSA?"

"what is a BSA?"
"base support area."

"what is that?"

"you know, where you sleep"

" no we have a hotel for that, we have 8 hour shifts out here."

BTW
I had an airman friend, and we always got on each other. so quit being such a pog(position other than grunt) You call us brainless, and not smart enough to be in your sevice, and we just reply that you are not bad ass enough to be in ours. I have met some pretty bad ass airdales in my life, but we still called them chairforce, button pusher assn. run aways (because the usaf came from the army) and other things, and they just replied with their own jokes. Just look up some jokes on service rivalry, realize that it comes from before there was even an airplane in the sky, and that is how we make fun of and with one another. It isn't about making them less than, it is about getting through the next day without freaking out during battle. Yes we had an AF Ranger, granted he was prior army, but he was still a ranger. He was also an airdale/ chairforce ranger. Now go with you new knowledge and walk in newness.
 
There was always allot of rivalry between the differant arms here in Canada. The infantry thought they were all of that, and the other arms resented them for it. Then the Tanks went into afghanistan. I was on the second Roto of tankers. All the infantry we went with were typical "look at the fat tankers" crowd. And it stayed that way till we went on an Op in Zhari Panjiwai. The first RPG flew at 0605hrs. Over the day 20 RPG rounds whistled by. The Tanks scored 7 Confirmed kills that day. The infantry 1. There was allot of begrudged respect going both ways in the leagure that night. We pulled their asses out of that sling. They never stopped charging. We all have our job. Our jobs are differant. Our jobs all suck (it was 67 degrees celcius in my tank that day) But we are a team. Let the jokes fly. Those who have been there know it's rivalry, not hate. Those who weren't there don't matter.

Al
 
Sorry for this but I had to reply to your post with a funny (true) report of what happened at JRTC in Ft. Polk LA.

I was part of the qrf and we were expecting the west area, where the AF area was, to be hit hard. SoI got out there dug a hasty beside the shoddily dug fox hole. No grenade sump or anything. Then after this, we went in for chow. I got to chewing the fat (shooting the shit) with an airman and decided to ask him about the BSA.

"Hey airdale, where is your BSA?"

"what is a BSA?"
"base support area."

"what is that?"

"you know, where you sleep"

" no we have a hotel for that, we have 8 hour shifts out here."

BTW
I had an airman friend, and we always got on each other. so quit being such a pog(position other than grunt) You call us brainless, and not smart enough to be in your sevice, and we just reply that you are not bad ass enough to be in ours. I have met some pretty bad ass airdales in my life, but we still called them chairforce, button pusher assn. run aways (because the usaf came from the army) and other things, and they just replied with their own jokes. Just look up some jokes on service rivalry, realize that it comes from before there was even an airplane in the sky, and that is how we make fun of and with one another. It isn't about making them less than, it is about getting through the next day without freaking out during battle. Yes we had an AF Ranger, granted he was prior army, but he was still a ranger. He was also an airdale/ chairforce ranger. Now go with you new knowledge and walk in newness.

Ive just never liked it. I think its immature, childish and disrespectful. I had army grunts try and call me "chairforce" WHILE WE WERE OUT ON MISSIONS, it was insane. These guys werent playing around. They were trying to say my bomb dog and I didnt belong out there with them even though her nose and my expertise with her nose saved lives. I dont know the job of the AF person that you spoke with but there are jobs that dont have the luxury of staying in hotels all the time. I have never referred to anyone not in the airforce as "brainless" or "not smart enough to be in the air force" you are generalizing people. Generalizing usually shows ignorance. Ive sweated with marines, slept in shitholes with the army and worked alongside with the navy. Service jokes dont apply to todays Global War on Terrorism. Maybe in the old days when the Air Force stayed on the base and provided security, then the army went out ahead and the Marines led way in the front. Now or days the services are intermixed and the lines between them are disappearing. For gods sakes we are all on the same team. The people that need to be put down is the enemy not your brothers and sisters in arms.
 
Jokes are a way of getting around the terror of the situation. I remember a time I was faced with the improbable and the horrific. I made a joke. "Steve.....are you scared" sarcastic and understated in the face of impending doom and death.

Sometimes you need to fill the empty spaces with useless drivel.......It's that or go mad on the spot.

Maybe we should all just let it all go. If we can. Probably the crux of our problem.

Wagon.
 
This is the 'Bar' and I started this thread because I found the joke funny.

Rivalry has been around for hundreds of years and will not stop any time soon.
There is rivalry and jokes between countries,
There is rivalry within countries between forces,
And there is rivalry within forces between 'Corps', or 'Mustering Category', or 'Employment Category'.
And there is even rivalry within corps down to specific jobs.

The big point to not is that we all depend on each other to survive.

Without the coalition, we would not survive.
Without the Navy to take up places we would not survive, and within that you have the lowly seamen who paints and swabs the deck, lol.
Without the Air Force we would not have 'Air Support', or 'Supply Drops', and within the Air Force you all have your tasks to keep the wheel turning.
And within the Army everyone has their role.

If something on this forum offends you then don't continue to read the thread. This forum is a place where we can say what we are thinking without having to watch what we write, as long as it is not pure slander towards and individual.

If you think it is directed at you personally then report it.
 
So in the spirit of keeping with the jokes: Where do you find a dog with no legs???? ANS: Where ever you left him. What do you call a dog with no legs????Ans : Don't matter he won't come anyway!

Anybody who knows me knows my love for the K-9s so can we all get back to laughing I challange anyone who is uncomfortable or has an issue with one of these jokes to just write a better one. After all like Jimmy said We are at a bar and jokes is the topic/

Tim & Bailey
 
I always enjoyed service rivalry. I found it both funny and a way to connect with the other services. I have been called jarhead wanna be cuz ai'm a ranger. I've even had a fight with a navy seal, we beat eachother and then went for drinks. Good times.
 
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