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just in a my-that's-how-it's-always-been since He began touching this body. One of us needed to document what was going on, one of us needed to feel, one of us needed to keep this body alive and responding to His commands, etc.

Rizeho here, i understand checking out but must be present to follow orders. Mine was ritual abuse, it was a cult, and as a kid I made up identities and they had names. My current therapist pointed out how those names usually mirror our own some or are part of our trauma (like what they called you for instance). But i dropped the names at 19 when I got out and they never spit into seperate identities, so I never developed DID.

But, the part of me that remembers is the checked out part. I remember up to and after the worst of it but during i was gone and have no memory of during the worst stuff. I also have what I call an "inner child" that my therapist says is haulted emotions.

What it caused, though not DID, is a complete seperation from it. When I talk about it, I sound like Im talking about the weather or someone else. Because of the identies at the time, it feels like it was someone else and I had a VERY hard time bridging that gap even the very slight bit that ive done.

Though I dont have DID, schizoaffective or schizophrenia, i do understand that spit during the trauma very well. And i also understand the feeling of "always been" and it has taken me 8 years of therapy to get to the place that I am starting to accept that though its always been, it may not be correct or the way it should be.

Cult beliefs and rituals are also hard to turn around as its taking what ive always known and turing it upside down or inside out.

Also, ive always heard this sound that sounds like a crowded lunchroom. I can't make out a certian voice or any words, just very loud crowd-like noise that gets louder and louder until I want to rip off my head. When I was trying to get the "god stuff" i was told it was demons. ** eye roll ** Anyway, that stopped after a while of being on here but seems to have come back after my mom (one of the cult leaders) died, intermittently.

I know being on medication can be hard but maybe give therapy another go? Maybe there is medication that can help that allows you to function and not be a drolling mess?

I was told that Seriquel would be that way but I am on XR, the extended release, so its not that bad and on a low dose that helps for anxiety and intense emotions. I would think that for schizophrenia, you'd need a higher dose but why not start slow on a lower dose and ease your way up? It's an anti-psycotic but in low doses its given for all sorts of reasons, just like Abilify is. Or what ever med a new therapist wants you on. Just start at a much lower dose or lower the one you were on? Think about it anyway.

Id try to at least go back to therapy as there are many, MANY, good ones out there. You just need to look.

You all are worth it!! :hug:
 
We will not take the pills again, no. The doctors want to eliminate us hearing ourselves, if that makes sense. They don't seem to care if we are anxious or afraid or angry (unless those are also coupled with uncooperative). We prefer to hear ourselves talking about what needs to be discussed, addressed and taken care of.

Our PTSD diagnosis is ignored, by doctors and the therapist. The only question we are repeatedly asked: "what are the voices saying?" Frankly, it's none of their damn business what conversations we have amongst ourselves.
 
Frankly, it's none of their damn business what conversations we have amongst ourselves.

I agree there. Though this sounds like DID and not schizophrenia or schizoaffective. Most especially with the "we" and "us" sort of speaking. Has the doctor spoken to you about DID and the therapies for it? DID treatment isn't about stopping communication but intergrating the identities into the one "host", being you.

That's how I understand it anyway.
 
The official diagnosis is some form of schizo-something, because we "hear voices that tell [them] to ignore reality." T...

@Ajewu/@Pibemu

Sadly, many of us have been mis-diagnosed/mis-judged/misunderstood and then incorrectly medicated by doctors/therapists that 'should' know better.

It is common for ppl with DID to be mis-diagnosed as schizo-something by professionals who just don't 'get' it.

They hear the patient say the word 'voices' and their f**king feeble minds shut off and they can only see schizo.... from that moment on.

I have seen this far too often.

(Btw, some of them simply don't believe that DID exists.)


You see, schizophrenia is NOT induced by TRAUMA. Even ppl with gr8 childhoods can get schizophrenia.
Also, ppl with schizophrenia have a clear formal "thought disorder" including delusions.

I have been BADLY mis-diagnosed and drugged for years, and I know how awful it is.

I encourage you to learn about DID, ritual abuse, structural dissociation, etc....

These sites may help http://ra-info.org/faqs/ http://did-research.org/index.html

There are experts that will understand you and help you.......and we will try to help you.:hug:
 
We can only digest and process so much, so quickly. The rub is this: this body will not wait on us before becoming ill. So we face being misunderstood/dismissed as a patient (the least consequence) or being forced treated (the worst consequence); both have happened before in the recent past.

No-one seems to be able to hear even the tip of our trauma (which we gave in the first post) and believe us. Is that because such things happen "over there"?
 
No-one seems to be able to hear even the tip of our trauma (which we gave in the first post) and believe us. Is that because such things happen "over there"?

To explain my entire family not believing me, my therapist says that the term "that's unbelievable" applies. People don't seem to want to believe that these things, such as ritual abuse, happens. People, as a whole, seem to want to blind themselves to such things. This, obviously, should exclude therapists but in my experience, many therapists are not trained and equiped to handle such trauma.

I would go in first making sure the therapist is "trauma trained" and has had experience with such things as ritual abuse. Questions in the first sessions work well for this.

Then Id specifically ask about DID. I would not say "i hear voices". But rather "I share my brain and body with other identities". Or something of that sort. Because that is the case.

You may need to go through several therapists to find a good fit but my therapist, whom I was forced to go to, I didnt "find him", is the best therapist I have ever encountered or seen. He has experience treating victims of ritual abuse and cult survivors plus, after he learned of my past, he took the time to educate himself more with specifc training. He took the time to learn how to correctly treat someone that grew up in a cult and was a victim of ritual abuse. He is amazing.

So, I am a cult and ritual abuse survivor (without DID) saying that there are great theraptists out there. He and I discussed DID, him with the DSM in hand. A good therapist isn't going to jump to conclusions and state schizophrenia and medicate you but rather diagnose you correctly with the DID diagnosing criteria in the DSM and possibly a test.

If we can see this is likely DID then surely a therapist can see that. But id still go in asking questions to learn of their experience and what the therapist is equiped to treat and specifically ask about DID.
 
We have been told "there is only one way to treat to PTSD, it is the way you have been receiving treatment." We have been told that any dissociative disorder is extremely rare and that ritual abuse is "a fairy tale." We are not getting better, we have been told, because we are not following the therapist's professional course of treatments.

There is a doctor's appointment this week. We do not see that happening.
 
"there is only one way to treat to PTSD, it is the way you have been receiving treatment."

Not the case. There are MANY proven therapies for PTSD. There are 3 proven evidence based therapies: Cognitive behavioral (CBT), Prolonged Exposure (PE), and Eye movement desensitization and reprocessing (EMDR).

Also many have good experiences with Somatic therapy, DBT, and others.

So certianly more then one.

We have been told that any dissociative disorder is extremely rare

Some therapists have opinions about this. I know Dr. Phil says he has never seen a "true case of it" but those are only opinions as the DSM V says differently and that is the best we have to go on. Any therapist that doesn't go off of the DSM and treats patients off of opinions is trash!

ritual abuse is "a fairy tale."

NOT! Ask the many even documentries on cult survivors and ritual abuse survivors that are DOCUMENTED.

Trash therapists. There are MUCH better ines out there.
 
Our PTSD diagnosis is ignored, by doctors and the therapist. The only question we are repeatedly asked: "what are the voices saying?" Frankly, it's none of their damn business what conversations we have amongst ourselves.
Are you dependent on socialized health care, or do you have options in terms of pursuing private, more specialized care?

As far as the doctor goes - I'm going to offer a different perspective. If what is going on physically is in need of timely treatment, or it will get significantly worse, then you need to find a way to see the middle ground. Yes, it's going to remind you of the trauma - but no, the trauma is not happening again. I see a lot of black and white thinking in your posts - and it's understandable, given the relationship of your trauma to the medical work you need done.

But it doesn't have to be either/or - either go and allow yourself to be abused, or not go and get sicker. It can be go, and tolerate the disturbing memories for as long as is needed to preserve your health.

Can you (all) consider that?
 
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