News Voters Against Hillary Thread

[The Albatross]

Before Assange, was Anonymous... from April 2016. Link Removed

There already is an anti trump thread.

 

[The Albatross]

The recent death of DNC staffer Seth Rich in DC, is an as yet suspicious but unfounded convenience for Hillary.

 

[The Albatross]

http://hotair.com/headlines/archive...ton-foundation-state-and-kremlin-connections/

 

[lostforgottensoul]

@The Albatross, thank you so much for all of the information. Im still working my way through it all.

Id never vote for the sly lying dont care about the US or the citizens Clinton, whom the last name means to them "above the law". Likely will vote Trump, maybe not but certianly not her.

Americans cared more about "making history" 8 yrs ago and look at the sad state that put us. Why in the hell do that again by "first woman president"? I dont get it!

 

[The Albatross]

Dinesh D'Souza is gonna be in our area free to the public on Sunday the 18th. I'm off and we intend to be there rain or shine.

 

[The Albatross]

Answer? Because it worked on the general public last time. Desired results will be repeated til people wake the heck up.

 

[sedna]

Dinesh D'Souza is gonna be in our area free to the public on Sunday the 18th. I'm off and we inte...

I was wondering if you'd mind directing me to some info that gives D'Souza some credibility. I'm trying, like gizmo said they are, to be open minded. The only things I've seen on this guy make him easy to dismiss. Maybe its a google and cnn thing. Is there something that makes his position easier to grasp somewhere?

I promise I wont show up with negative opinions about any of it, I really would just like to have a look. If I come back it'll just be with more honest questions!!

Also, for clarification thats faster Im working and cant just peruse forums looking for stuff at the mo. This is against Hilary but not firmly pro trump here, am I right? not sure how that works thanx

 

[The Albatross]

@coco9 well for starters here's the 2014 NYT article before he was sentenced to prison and 5 years probation for an offense that no one was ever incarcerated for before? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/25/b...l-fall-for-a-conservative-firebrand.html?_r=0 But he was, to be fair an author expounding on conservative principles though not exclusively way way before he became a documentarian sort of the flip side of the coin from Michael Moore: Dead Link Removed

A bio: http://www.dineshdsouza.com/about/

 

[The Albatross]

Personally I admire his stand and viewpoints as an immigrant and the position he takes about America. He is provocative, but also capable of sound reasonable and rational debate... an example would be when he appeared at a university and debated against a leader of the Young Turks.

I could add the link with the right wing comments... but here's the Politicon 2016 Debate from about a month or so ago from the Young Turks site... their speaker is Cenk Uygur... it is interesting because Dinesh is from India... Cenk is Turkish... both hail as immigrants... Dinesh is a conservative, Cenk is not:

 

[sedna]

@coco9 well for starters here's the 2014 NYT article before he was sentenced t...

Thank you.

It took a while before I had a chance to look at this tonight. The link to the debate with Hitchens was good. I'm a huge fan of the late Christopher Hitchens and was able to find the whole transcripts of that debate, which is better for me to get an understanding of where Dinesh gets his ideas from.

I'll say this, he held his own and did it gracefully, not an easy thing to do with Mr. Hitchens on the topics of God or politics and definitely not both at the same time. He seemed to respect him for how he handled himself. That earns D'Souza some respect for me, thanks.

 

[sedna]

Thank you.

It took a while before I had a chance to look at this tonight. The link to the debate with Hi...

I want to just add quickly, in case someone looks at that debate and isn't familiar with Hitchens. He was an outspoken Atheist, but that's not what his great mission statement was. It sort of became that because of the way other people reacted to his brazen and fearless writing and comments. He was a master at getting people to explain their beliefs by challenging them with artful parodies of their reasoning, without them realizing quite what he was doing. He was a great thinker, and very funny, if you let yourself look at his work that way, otherwise its just offensive. I think he called Mother Theresa a dwarf and a con-woman or something, I cant remember.

Anyway, just thought in case anyone else clicked that link it would be a shame if they only thought he was some Scrooge like Atheist and didnt realize who he was. It does give Mr. D'Souza some credibility that he had the courage to do that and handled gracefully, lots of others with better reputations looked like fools up against Hitchens.

I'm not an Atheist by the way...;)

 

[lostforgottensoul]

Obama speaking against trump at the singapore china conference this morning. Asshole low life is what that is.

I dont remember Bush Jr have too much to say in Obama/Mccain race. I dont remember him smearing any or much if he did in that race. I think its low life that you find every damn opportunity to smear and bad mouth as the current President.