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Short term vs long term therapy opinions and experiences

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@Suzetig I see the place you are coming from: a lot of hurt and anger. I understand it cause I've been there myself. However, I will stop passing the ball back and forth on here with you. I can't ignore your content cause you are a moderate. I ask that if you do not like it don't respond to it.
 
@Suzetig I see the place you are coming from: a lot of hurt and anger.
I'm neither hurt nor angry with you @UniversalBeing, I simply disagree with you. Yes, I took issue with your view of what constitutes a "serious case", and I've explained my reasons for that - the wider issue around short/long term therapy doesn't feel particularly personal to me at all - in fact in some circumstances I agree with you, but my experience is different to yours. There are folk here who have needed fairly long term therapy, and who rely on that support to maintain some kind of stability. Can you see that your assertion that someone else could have healed them sooner, that if they were only more focussed in the work, had a better therapist they'd be better by now might leave them feeling pretty vulnerable?

You're choosing not to engage with the experience of people who's view differs from yours, which is up to you and I'm not going to keep banging my head against that particular wall but don't presume to know how I feel.
 
What an interesting topic, i had a normal talking therapist, i didn't realize there were specialists such as EMDR, i see now an EMDR specialist that has helped me for the last 1yr. She has really shown me how to look at what has happened, i was originally diagnosed when i worked as an independent contractor overseas, when i returned home they diagnosed me with PTSD, but on top of it they discovered that i had childhood PTSD from an abusive mother, so i got double wammy! LOLOL, but we have recently discovered that i am having "blackouts" disassociation disorder on top of my PTSD that was discovered after i got terminated from my job recently.

In getting back to the therapist, i think it is all about who and what they offer in terms of service. It is my understanding that therapist have changed, a lot of eastern practices have come into the profession. Such as my T has introduced me to guided meditation which which goes towards the regression therapy, as we have gone on, she has told me about a Buddhist Monastery that offers free Meditation classes, it is a monastery of about 30-50 monks and nuns. Buddhist Monks, have helped also in those with PTSD, but Buddhism is a practice, not a faith even though they teach you about what Buddhism is, vs. what it is not. But, i still see my T of course, it helps more than many realize, i didn't think i could do it, but i can and do and it has helped me and i cant tell you why.
 
There are so many variables, this seems like a complicated topic. (Actually, it seems like a bit of a mine field, but that's probably me.)

During our first session, my T addressed, "how long does this take?" He said that most people end up seeing him 3 times, or 30. (I think that leaves out the ones he annoys during the first session, who never come back.) At some point, I knew were past 30. I asked him about that. He said, "Yeah, I said that. And, for most people it's true. You are not 'most people'."

Because I deeply believe in not asking questions I don't want to know the answer to, I didn't all him explain that.

Now, I get along pretty well. I'm quite sure I could live without therapy. I got along without it most of my life. On the other hand, I can clearly see, now, that I'd have gotten along better WITH it.

So, maybe I'm wasting his time. He could make more money off a rich, private pay, client. My life's mostly over anyway, maybe I should just give up and not bother trying to learn all stuff i don't know..... I'm not sure what the answer is to that. I know there's a lot I don't understand. I feel like I gain something from this experience. I'm convinced this is taking more than the standard number of visits because there's a lot missing, not because he's not good at his job. I could be wrong.
 
Based on my not so good experience with [URL='Link Removed...
My sexual abuse lasted 16 years and there were multiple abusers plus abandonment by parents to a known perp. Many issues plus ddnos. I spent years working through trust and abandonment and self worth issues. Then took a break and reentered therapy after my sons suicide. My therapist is part of my regular support system. It's going to be a while. Maybe always. It's self care as long as I can afford it.
 
@UniversalBeing my advice to you is not post stupid smart arse shit in response, which happens to breach copyright at the same time. There is nothing wrong with healthy debate. Debate away -- just don't personalise it and take anything you feel or think out on another person. Argue away -- just do it in healthy ways and do not attack. Debate is healthy. It brings out perspectives, ideas, other thought streams.
 
@anthony I took responsibility for posting the meme's, read the administrative thread, and promised that I would respect the policies. I owned my part. In several of my posts are emphasized and reassured people that I am not saying that there should be no long-term therapy. My opinions and experience were repeatedly diminished and attacked and I feel frustrated about that. I am not taking more than my share in this debate.

just don't personalise it and take anything you feel or think out on another person. Argue away

My postings were taken personally on several occasions and were being attacked. I feel hurt why am I being reprimanded and other parties are not.
 
My opinions and experience were repeatedly diminished and attacked and I feel frustrated about that
You are in charge of whether or not you let other people's perceptions affect you. In other words, if you see your opinions as being belittled or attacked - what prevents you from shifting your thinking to, "well, that's their opinion and they are welcome to it; I am not made lesser by their thoughts".

It's not always easy to do - but it is always, always useful. I sometimes feel lucky that I get to practice it around here, pretty much all the time. And, sometimes it stresses me out. When it does that, I take a break.

The Admin post I was referring to is actually the newer one - I'm sorry I was rushing and did not have a chance to post a link to the thread I was intending. The one you found is just as relevant - but, this one is clearer and outlines new policies: Consequences for copyright infringement
 
It's not always easy to do - but it is always, always useful. I sometimes feel lucky that I get to practice it around here, pretty much all the time. And, sometimes it stresses me out. When it does that, I take a break

Not always easy but taking a break is a good idea cause yeah sometimes the energy on here is too much.
Thanks for sharing the policies. I was not aware of that at all. I will respect. They are reasonable.
 
I consider severe cases...DID...suicidal tendencies, self harm, etc.

I've experienced both long term and short term therapy.

My long term therapy lasted 16 years with one therapist. That's not a typo! I had DID when I started seeing the therapist. I was very involved in my therapy, keeping journals and reading anything I could get my hands on about healing from abuse and dealing with DID. In addition I started and ran support groups for survivors of abuse.

At all times the therapist encouraged self-sustainability rather than reliance on him. For instance, an alter had a crisis and needed intervention. I was taught over the phone how to deal with the situation on my own. I'm always grateful that the therapist had taught me self reliance.

I was a high functioning DID. I had a history of sexual abuse and emotional/mental abuse in my FOO. My mother had NPD and OCPD (not obsessive compulsive disorder).

During the long term therapy, I didn't know my father was a psychopath. Of course that added another dimension to therapy. When I stopped seeing that therapist I had integrated the huge internal system I had developed as a child and no longer had DID. All of the integration occurred away from therapy not during sessions. I was told that rarely happens.

I stopped seeing a therapist for five years.

Then my mother died and a whole new slew of memories surfaced. This is when I figured out that my father was a pedophiliac, serial killer. I entered therapy with a different therapist due to suicidal depression. I stayed with her for only a year because she was ineffectual. Before I left, I gave her a review of her services. She wasn't pleased with hearing what I had to say. I'm certain no one had ever done one in person for her. I've read that it's rare for a client to ever do it. I felt right about doing it, and I didn't care if she denied everything I said. The best thing I did during this therapy was report my father's criminal acts to the police.

I found another therapist and stayed with him for less than 3 years. The thing I learned from him was that grieving didn't have a right or wrong way and would continue for the rest of my life, waxing and waning. I thought grieving had a specific end. It's a journey. I learned that new memories would surface from time to time, and I had a choice what to do with them. When I left therapy I felt I learned the most during my last 3 years. Though the concentration of therapy was different; we focused on my writing assignments and moving forward with my life. They were interesting ones such as writing from my father's point of view. It was done to teach me that I wasn't my father. Or selecting an object in my home which represented my mother. I chose a can of WD-40. I loved writing about that choice. ;)

The second focus of therapy couldn't have happened without the first focus of therapy—integrating alters. I needed both.
 
First WOW and big congratulations. You are an inspiration and symbol of resilience.

At all times the therapist encouraged self-sustainability rather than reliance on him. For instance, an alter had a crisis and needed intervention. I was taught over the phone how to deal with the situation on my own. I'm always grateful that the therapist had taught me self reliance.
That is a great therapist.

I stayed with her for only a year because she was ineffectual. Before I left, I gave her a review of her services. She wasn't pleased with hearing what I had to say. I'm certain no one had ever done one in person for her. I've read that it's rare for a client to ever do it.

That is brave and congratulations. Most therapists don't get honest feedback from their clients and that also prevents their growth.

The thing I learned from him was that grieving didn't have a right or wrong way and would continue for the rest of my life, waxing and waning.

I great book on the topic of grief is: A Grief Observed - Wikipedia

Congratulation on your journey. You've come a long way and thanks for sharing.
 
The second focus of therapy couldn't have happened without the first focus of therapy—integrating alters. I needed both.

This is huge! It is easy to say "you got with a different therapist and moved through it in 3 yrs" but what many don't understand is if it wasn't for the first 16 then those last 3 wouldn't have happened.

That is the case with me as well. Though I am still with the same therapist, if it wasn't for those early yrs, what happened this last year and few months wouldn't have happened! I had to battle through what was going on in the early yrs to move into the space to be able to make any steps at all.

And that is the reason that putting a cap on therapy just isn't a smart thing to do, in my opinion.
 
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