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Complicated case of ptsd

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If they perceive their world is in danger in some form or are very frightened for even illogical reasons, they can develop PTSD.
Bullshit. What a joke of a statement. You're pathologising society. Unless you're a psychiatrist who is part of the collective group for the WHO or APA, as part of the trauma and stressor group, and are speaking on behalf of the entire group, you should take your own advice and STFU for making such idiotic statements about diagnostic application, purist nonsense or any other such idiocy.

Actually, I will do it for you on this thread. Thread banned for stupidity.
 
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Perhaps suggesting a second opinion would be good enough.

Which is exactly what I said.

Personally, if it were me, I would ask for a 2nd opinion and ask specifically about this. Many disorders mock PTSD and there are a bazillon cross over symptoms with PTSD from other disorders. Personally, if it were me, I would highly question this diagnosis.

Of course, though, I am not qualified to diagnosis or say one doesn't have PTSD. Just saying I would highly question this diagnosis, if it were me.

No where did I say this OP did not have PTSD.

What is being argued is the diagnosic criteria. And, in my view, criteria H and A are being twisted to fit a specific set of symptoms when they do not fit.
 
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What I'm having trouble getting my head around, is where this notion of being suggested that you don't have a debilitating lifelong mental illness is somehow a bad thing.
Are people really that keen to a victim of something?

If I came here with what I thought was ptsd. Then was told by several members that no, you probably don't. "Because X, Y, Z, reason. Maybe you should consider a second opinion?"

I wouldn't be unhappy about that. Because maybe, just maybe. I don't have a debilitating lifelong mental illness that's going to f*ck up everything I thought I had going for me.
Maybe what I have is curable, or easier to manage effectively than ptsd.

Maybe there's actually some light at the end of the f*cking tunnel. I know I'd be a damn sight better off than I am now. I'd be taking my new found optimism and be calling a new doctor for appointment. Pleased that I might not have to suffer for the rest of my days.

I try to avoid commentating on these threads, as it's often probably more detrimental to me than if I just let it alone.
Especially after reading the bit about "purists". Really? Are you f*cking kidding me?

PTSD is a mental disorder. It's an ailment, malaise, problem, sickness, detriment, bad, unwanted, serving no useful purpose.
If you haven't got it, you don't want it.

Having it doesn't make you part of some special club. Getting rid of it, isn't an option. Getting it in the first place wasn't a choice.
Keeping it isn't desirable.

I find it distressing and frustrating to see someone come here asking a fair question that turns into a ray of hope for me, as the OP for this thread did.
As I can read their story and think. Good. Here's someone who maybe doesn't have to live with this.

They then receive good information by people who care enough to try and help as best they can. Great. Were I in that persons shoes, I'd be grateful to get a honest opinion. Whether or not they choose to follow up on it is up to them.
Getting a second opinion is always a good idea when the only path ahead of you is misery. At least I think so.

Then, out from the woodwork comes some person either on this thread or another. There's always one it seems.

"Stop!
Don't listen to these people! They don't know what they're talking about. You're doomed! Clearly you have an incurable mental illness. You'll be sick for ever and ever! They're just trying to keep you away from the super secret awesome prize, that is ptsd! Aren't you glad I came along to dash your hopes?
Aren't you excited?"

What prize is that?

"Misery, fear, depression, self-loathing, guilt, insomnia, irrational anger and an inability to function properly in society! Forever! Wow!"

Why would anyone want this?
Why would anyone fight to have this.
More astoundingly. Fight to convince someone else that they have this? Hell. You want it so goddamn badly, you can have mine. I've had enough of the amazing prize. I'm so desperate to get rid of feeling this way I'd be tempted to sell it to a fool if it were possible.

Why would anyone think this is a good thing? How are you helping someone by telling them that they are going to suffer forever?

I don't care if someone thinks I'm exclusionary, cause yeah, I don't want people to suffer unnecessarily. What a terrible person I must be?

My actual question here in this post, is why do people do this? What is the allure of this disorder?
Do they want pity? I don't understand.
Can anyone please explain why this sort of thing happens?

I hope I'm not breaking any rules with this post. If I am just delete it and ignore me. I'll get over it.
 
I hope I'm not breaking any rules with this post

Me to because BRAVO TO YOU!!! You said everything I was thinking but was too scared to say!! If I could super like it all I would!

My actual question here in this post, is why do people do this? What is the allure of this disorder?

My question as well. Would anyone want cancer? If PTSD were cancer, would we have lines out the door like this? Maybe pity? Or maybe they feel that their suffering must be PTSD to be vaild? I don't know. I'd be happy as can be if I were told that what I was dealing with could be something else and actually maybe cureable. It is depressing as f*ck to know that what I have must be managed for life and can pop up at any given time for the remainder of my life.
 
I think people just want an answer and a label. There is control in that and validation. PTSD is validating of crap that happened to you. It is like saying, "Wow, you must have went through quite an ordeal 'cause now you have PTSD." It validates your suffering and takes you out of a crazy label. It is like ADHD. I have that as well and when I got that diagnosis, I did think, I am NOT a f*ck up after all! I have ADHD! As an adult, when I graduated from college, I lost my car twice. Like literally totally just misplaced my CAR. Yet, I am a responsible person. I have ADHD though. I try not to use it as an excuse.

People just want a label. There is something nice about it-like a rhyme and a reason to it a sense of control, the opportunity to get appropriate treatment ect. Also, a label or psychoeducation helps symptoms to be better managed because you are not buying into your thoughts and a feelings.

Out of all the diagnoses I have received CPTSD is the most accurate and feels the easiest to accept. I started to get better because I got a trauma focused therapist. I received a lot of bs diagnoses prior. Like when I was 18 and wanted to kill myself, I was told I had Dysthymia and that I would remain unhappy the rest of my life. This is technically not as bad as PTSD but at least PTSD acknowledges that you were harmed. I was told at one point that I had Adjustment Disorder. WTF??? I think pretty much every human on this planet likely has Adjustment Disorder. Another diagnosis that I received was "Underlying Bipolar Disorder. " I got this just because I had a manic reaction to an SSRI. This diagnosis is complete BS. The med caused the effects because I could not process it correctly due to a genetic issue that I have with metabolizing drugs.

Yes, PTSD is/can be debilitating. But, people come here because they want answers. They want a validating mental disorder that happens because of external forces not internal forces. Some just want a diagnosis that can latch onto.

Also, I think in the OP's case, a patient just wants a diagnosis, and to be understood and correctly diagnosed, PTSD or not. It sucks when you do not know what is wrong with you. That is devastating actually.
 
Some just want a diagnosis that can latch onto.

Which I can understand. I can understand wanting an answer to your symptoms. Like "OOOHHHH! That's why I am like this". BUT, there is a whole host of answers and some of them were listed out early into the thread. And then another comes in and say "NO! THIS MUST BE PTSD!" That is what I am not understanding. I get what you are saying but why latch onto ONE single disorder (and why is that one disorder always PTSD) when there are people that are saying "no, one of these are much more accurate" which is also an answer and a disorder and possible diagnosis?

I wanted to add that people seem, to me, to think PTSD is the answer to it all and it truely is not. It seems, to me, that people think they must have PTSD for their suffering to be vaild and that also is not the case. PTSD has been in public view due to veterans and it is the most well known disorder due to trauma. When you say "I have PTSD" people (most) know you have been through some shit. It seems, to me, that people don't think their shit is truely shit unless it results in PTSD and that also is not the case. It seems, to me, that people want PTSD to validate they went through shit, no matter what that shit looks like.

Anyway, that's all I am saying as this thread is like super off topic and I don't want to keep contibuting to that. I just wanted to add a few things there.
 
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Thee are also some people.... Again, "some people". That when and if they have a shitload of symptoms, if they are given a diagnoses they don't feel crazy! You go to the dr with a shit load of symptoms and they tell you that they have "no idea" what is wrong with you. You walk out feeling like shit, you feel "crazy" because you have all these symptoms and no one can tell you what's wrong. So, when someone says, "oh, well you have this-----------". You feel validated, you feel like you have something to grab onto, a name to put to all of the symptoms. Even if you don't know what the f*ck it entails.

I went for a few yrs with this very issue. I had a boatload of symptoms. I was sick physically, which really f*cked with me mentally too. It took a few yrs before everything came together and a couple more symptoms hit and I was finally diagnosed with a rare medical condition. Went on meds and instantly felt better 3 yrs later it went into remission and my Nephrologist was shaking his head, and warned me that it will most likely return sometime.....

So I do understand part of this......
 
I get what you are saying but why latch onto ONE single disorder (and why is that one disorder always PTSD) when there are people that are saying "no, one of these are much more accurate" which is also an answer and a disorder and possible diagnosis?
I'm guessing it's because, like @Applesunflower13 mentioned, some of these people have had trauma happen to them, they have suffered symptoms for a long time with no answers and they have had BS diagnoses or little help in their search for answers. If I lived through decades of frustration and then discovered that my symptoms matched those of a PTSD sufferer to a T, that's the condition I would be most interested in learning about. That would be a diagnosis that would actually get me some help. Even if I didn't fit ALL the criteria, I would probably be helped the most in pursuing that tract. Depending on the health care available to you, there isn't always support or knowledge out there to access if it's not PTSD.
 
You go to the dr with a shit load of symptoms and they tell you that they have "no idea" what is wrong with you. You walk out feeling like shit, you feel "crazy" because you have all these symptoms and no one can tell you what's wrong
I've soooo been there. Nothing like going through years of expensive tests and being passed along from specialist to specialist just to be made to feel like you are batshit crazy.
 
I think people just want an answer and a label. There is control in that and validation. PTSD...

It's not just about wanting a label. (Again not pinpointing the OP here, speaking in general).

It's about wanting the PTSD label.

Nobody tries to go after the depression label or the bipolar label or the schizophrenic label.

These labels don't give them the validation they want.

People go after the PTSD label because they want validation for their suffering, regardless of whether or not it's the best fit or the right fit.
 
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