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I Just Need To Vent!!!

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Well, I'm sure your sense of peace will increase tenfold from this decision, no doubt. You have to know when enough is enough, and these people won't ever stop hounding us unless we take measures to stop engaging with them. wa

I'm sure she will twist it around to make you look like the crazy one to all your relatives. I just don't care what any of them think, that's the only way to protect myself from his BS. My mother is just as bad, and I hardly have any contact with her these days...it usually just ends up being a shitfest anyway, where we fight and she is unsupportive and uses the whole meds thing as a way of trying to get to me. The last time I visited her up north, she was yelling at me after I put up strong boundaries telling her that I wasn't there to be her free counsellor, and she'd have to pay someone like everyone else does. She actually said to me "But I've got you...why would I pay"!
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She started yelling and trying to provoke me, and I did my best to not lose it and just ask her to stop yelling, which she denied doing, but she was. She kept going and next thing I knew I snapped, and she then used it against me and said "Have you taken your meds today, you're losing it"...f*cking dumb bitch!
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Yes, I hear you on that one. We all have our limits. My mom tried to call me on her cell phone and it wouldn't go through and she was yelling at me. Like, it's my fault. I totally lost it on her and started screaming at her that I'm not the phone company and I don't have control over whether or not her phone calls go through to my house!

What an a$$hole!
 
It's interesting. Every time my father would attempt to call me something would go wrong with my phone?? I'm not much of a phone person anyway, but it was like the universe was helping me because I didn't really want to talk to him, so my phone would go weird whenever he tried to call me.
 
I can relate with you Philippa, since I was a young girl, my mom would compare me to a close friend's daughter (actually grew up calling them aunt, uncle, and cousins). Why I couldn't be more like her, she's so smart, beautiful, nice, and neat/clean. I was horrible at up keeping my bedroom when I was younger, she also thought my handwriting was hideous. She wanted me to be so much like her that she had me spend an entire summer with her. My mother told me that she was going to teach me how to write pretty and dress pretty (I had been hanging out with what people call "gothic" people, who if anybody really got to know them were really nice kids, just dressed differently). Anyways, I came back home after that summer, writing and dressing just like my cousin, and was probably the best year for my mom and I, we got a long so much better.

Then when we would walk through the mall, it would start all over (the comparing), my mom and my "Aunt" would count how many more guys would look at my cousin more than me. I actually heard them talking about it and my mom telling her friend that it's because her daughter was gorgeous and I wasn't. Yeah, talk about a shoot down of self confidence.

Now my husband and I are constantly being compared to my sisters and their husbands, not being in the military or having our own company, or not having all these nice materialistic items in our homes or really nice cars to drive. It all really makes me sick to my stomach and hate it so much!!

Nobody should be compared to another person, everybody is uniquely different and beautiful in their own way. I've had such a self confidence issue since I was a teenager that it wasn't until my current husband to make me feel beautiful. Even when I'm having a tough day on myself, he still tells me how beautiful I am and that I'm nuts to not agree with him. He's truly the best guy for me!! I'm so blessed.
 
Then when we would walk through the mall, it would start all over (the comparing), my mom and my "Aunt" would count how many more guys would look at my cousin more than me. I actually heard them talking about it and my mom telling her friend that it's because her daughter was gorgeous and I wasn't. Yeah, talk about a shoot down of self confidence.

I hear you on that one! I remember when I was 17. I was with one of my friends at the hairdresser and the stylist kept saying how beautiful my eyes were. She kept going on and on about how they were a gorgeous shade of blue..... I went home and told my mom. She turned and said, "you know why she said that about your eyes?" I said, "no why?" She said, "cuz the rest of you is so ugly". I was horrified. What a f**ked up thing to say to your own daughter.

Years later I now see that it has soooo much more to do with her that it EVER had to do with me. But what a f**cking cruel twisted b*tch to say that to me. She's never apologized either. God, I hate her!
 
I was about 17 at the time as well. My mom still hasn't apologized for any of those things either.

She hasn't even come and apologized to me for blaming me for her breaking her ribs while taking a shower one day which caused her to miss a trip to Ireland (which was a dream trip for her). After years of being blamed for it, I was told by my older sister and my aunt at separate times, how she confessed to each of them that she thought it was funny that I took the blame when in all actuality if her and my dad were not taking a shower together (and they were not being innocent if you know what I mean) she probably wouldn't have fallen and broke her ribs. She has yet to come and apologize to me for it. I was so upset when they told me that she thought it was funny that she blamed me, she has no true idea what all of these things have done to me. To have to see her in pain because of something that I thought was caused by me not keeping the bathroom clean enough, and then to know she was laughing about it, just really upsets me.

I want to hate her for everything, I don't know why I can't, for some weird reason I want her acceptance and approval more. I will be going back to a T soon, waiting for my insurance cards to arrive, and I can't wait. I've got some books from the library, just started reading them, so I hope they are helpful as well.
 
I can relate with you Philippa, since I was a young girl, my mom would compare me to a close friend's daughter (actually grew up calling them aunt, uncle, and cousins). Why I couldn't be more like her, she's so smart, beautiful, nice, and neat/clean. I was horrible at up keeping my bedroom when I was younger, she also thought my handwriting was hideous. She wanted me to be so much like her that she had me spend an entire summer with her. My mother told me that she was going to teach me how to write pretty and dress pretty (I had been hanging out with what people call "gothic" people, who if anybody really got to know them were really nice kids, just dressed differently). Anyways, I came back home after that summer, writing and dressing just like my cousin, and was probably the best year for my mom and I, we got a long so much better.

Then when we would walk through the mall, it would start all over (the comparing), my mom and my "Aunt" would count how many more guys would look at my cousin more than me. I actually heard them talking about it and my mom telling her friend that it's because her daughter was gorgeous and I wasn't. Yeah, talk about a shoot down of self confidence.

God...sorry. She sounds horrid, really horrid, and it's all so familiar, though in a different way of course. Dad makes it sound like he's just informing me when he says it, like he isn't really just being a nasty SOB. He's been telling me about my cousin for about 10 years now, it's an ongoing routine part of our regular conversation.

I wish and want to be able to say to him "do you even know how much that hurts me when you compare me to Andrew?" but somehow it never comes out. I've wanted to say it for so long now, but every time I even try to discuss my feelings or his behavior, he will laugh and/or twist it all around so that I'm being ridiculous or that it's nothing, and I'm just being over sensitive. I can't ever make him understand or acknowledge what he's done.

All I can do is talk to him in the privacy of my room, as though he were there, and really say what I want to say to him, and really let him have it. I'm also lucky to have friends who have actually allowed me to use them to pretend he (one male friend online) is my father and I can just say what I want to say to him, and he doesn't take it personally. That was really helpful...I've done it in a therapeutic context as well, so it helps to acknowledge the reality and validate my feelings, because god knows it ain't gonna ever come from him.

I've been thinking a lot about him recently, and I get a bit down on myself, like I'm terrible for cutting him off all together, but just coming here and reading your story which is similar to mine, make me more confident that it isn't me who is a selfish bitch...I'm just doing what I have to to survive and protect the remnants of my self-esteem, so I can build it back up again, because every time I start building it, someone comes a long, a male usually, who acts just like dad and knocks me down again. It's been going on since I was 20 (I'm 36 now).

I have this incredible determination and stubbornness to evict all those people from my life, because I know that despite how they try to make me feel, that I am just as important as everyone else is, and I just need to get away from all of them and be very choosy with who I allow in my world, according to whether they are supportive of me or not, in the sense that they encourage me, and not belittle me. It's so weird to me that so many men (that I've experienced...I haven't really seen it in women as much.) seem to think that belittling people is cool or somehow a desirable and right way to be. Destroying someone is such a casual thing for so many people to do, and they give each other kudos for doing it??:confused:

Now my husband and I are constantly being compared to my sisters and their husbands, not being in the military or having our own company, or not having all these nice materialistic items in our homes or really nice cars to drive. It all really makes me sick to my stomach and hate it so much!!

She sounds like a real piece of work. Take consolation in the fact that as messed up as you may be, she is a thousand times more f*cked up, and doesn't even know it!

Nobody should be compared to another person, everybody is uniquely different and beautiful in their own way. I've had such a self confidence issue since I was a teenager that it wasn't until my current husband to make me feel beautiful. Even when I'm having a tough day on myself, he still tells me how beautiful I am and that I'm nuts to not agree with him. He's truly the best guy for me!! I'm so blessed.

He sounds lovely. Hopefully I will meet someone like that one day.
 
I hear you on that one! I remember when I was 17. I was with one of my friends at the hairdresser and the stylist kept saying how beautiful my eyes were. She kept going on and on about how they were a gorgeous shade of blue..... I went home and told my mom. She turned and said, "you know why she said that about your eyes?" I said, "no why?" She said, "cuz the rest of you is so ugly". I was horrified. What a f**ked up thing to say to your own daughter.

Years later I now see that it has soooo much more to do with her that it EVER had to do with me. But what a f**cking cruel twisted b*tch to say that to me. She's never apologized either. God, I hate her!
That's just...f*cked! You know she was really talking about herself though, don't you? Feel sorry for her, because only someone who hates themselves so entirely could possibly say that to their own flesh and blood.
 
I was about 17 at the time as well. My mom still hasn't apologized for any of those things either.

She hasn't even come and apologized to me for blaming me for her breaking her ribs while taking a shower one day which caused her to miss a trip to Ireland (which was a dream trip for her). After years of being blamed for it, I was told by my older sister and my aunt at separate times, how she confessed to each of them that she thought it was funny that I took the blame when in all actuality if her and my dad were not taking a shower together (and they were not being innocent if you know what I mean) she probably wouldn't have fallen and broke her ribs. She has yet to come and apologize to me for it. I was so upset when they told me that she thought it was funny that she blamed me, she has no true idea what all of these things have done to me. To have to see her in pain because of something that I thought was caused by me not keeping the bathroom clean enough, and then to know she was laughing about it, just really upsets me.

I want to hate her for everything, I don't know why I can't, for some weird reason I want her acceptance and approval more. I will be going back to a T soon, waiting for my insurance cards to arrive, and I can't wait. I've got some books from the library, just started reading them, so I hope they are helpful as well.
I think it's perfectly normal to want acceptance and approval from your own parents. It's normal. What isn't normal is to have a mother who isn't capable of giving that to you. Of course you will want that emotionally. Maybe if you can start learning to give yourself these things you seek from her, you will have a better chance of getting those needs fulfilled?
 
That's just...f**ked! You know she was really talking about herself though, don't you? Feel sorry for her, because only someone who hates themselves so entirely could possibly say that to their own flesh and blood.

yes, it took me years to realize that but I do realize that now. I still think she's a colossol b*tch because she's never apologized! And when I confronted her about it all she said was, "oh, maybe you were bugging me that day" What a f**king a$$hole!
 
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