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Kindness Is Now Confusing--

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OKRADLAK

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Not just in romantic relationships but even in regular social relationships, I am very taken aback by people who are routinely kind, or who show interest.

It is like I cannot communicate with them after about the 3rd interaction.

It's like I am taken off guard.

It's like they can see through me.

With some people I start blinking like a fool or looking past them or can't talk. So WEIRD .

With others I just avoid them.

With others, I get rude first to stop it!!

Why do I now seem allergic to kindness?? I mean I am so touched at first, but by the 2nd time I can't stand it, even in therapy. I just want to close them off .
 
I can relate a lot to these feeling, OKRAD. Especially at my school, I go to an extremely small college with a population that is %80 unrealistically idealistic and... I don't know how to describe them. They're sweeter than the dialogue in Disney's Cinderella. They're sweeter than an old lady crafted by Dickens. They're wholesome. They only buy organic food and wear fair trade clothes. They think that they can change the world. They are very, very nice to me and make lots of eye contact.

This just really scares me. When I meet people like this, I quickly synthesize the perfect fake personality to blend in--I am so afraid of hurting them with myself--and then I leave as quickly as possible and avoid future interactions.

I don't know why I can't tolerate this. I just feel as if they are going to be destroyed by me somehow, or just realize how f*cked up I am and be appalled. They would be appalled.
 
Oh my! It sounds like one of those really cool and bizarre colleges. Heh.....

I totally get that adopting a personality to fit in. When I can't find one, I get all weird. I have this thing with my eyes, like they dart to something right beyond the head of the person, or eye to eye. And they keep darting! I am sure they are thinking, "She is trying to act Asperger's!" or something like I am doing it on purpose. Not to dis Asperger's people, They are very smart and awesomel! I just do not have it.

I also feel they are going to get hurt by me or they are going to rip apart my carefully constructed moment.....I have to go LITERALLY 5 minutes to 5 minutes and someone comes along and .............boom. That is all it takes. God only know why I ever even leave the house.

So I smile a lot! That covers a multitude of social sins!!:D
 
It is like I cannot communicate with them after about the 3rd interaction.
I get that too but it is from a fear of getting close to people. A relationship was developed with me with a feeling of emotionally close, I was then manipulated into abuse.

Kindness is an interesting one. Somebody may have been kind to you once or the opposite of kindness and so it is attached to painful memories that you might want to avoid. SO you avoid kindness. Are you kind to others or just avoid others being kind to you.That's what I think.

A few bad parents can mess up kindness, love, getting emotionally close, comfort, all the qualities that are a basis for surviving in the world. It is a bit like having a bad operating system. But it can be improved with therapy.
 
I have this thing with my eyes, like they dart to something right beyond the head of the person, or eye to eye. And they keep darting! I am sure they are thinking, "She is trying to act Asperger's!" or something like I am doing it on purpose. Not to dis Asperger's people, They are very smart and awesomel! I just do not have it.
I get this same way. People often comment that they feel like my eyes are looking straight through them and that my eyes dart around much more than is normal (though our eyes move 50 times a second subtly to maintain depth perception, so?). >.<
 
Maze-

That is key is to NOT let it make you mean. I do try to be nice to people,sometimes overly. When you get PTSD it is like you do not want ANYTHING to suffer. I rescue cockroaches and get very upset if someone stomps one when I am in the room.

Even at school. I would rush over and collect a spider before someone smashed it into oblivion. And you know, there were some people who helped! Not everyone disrespects the sanctity of critter life!:D
 
Oi!!! Yes, have you ever hit a squirrel or rabbit with the car? Ruins the entire day and the next 3, too! I seriously pick up ants with a bit of tissue and dump them out the back door here in the woods- not lying! That's an awfully good point to bring up, Okradlak. I don't even flush dead goldfish down the toilet like normal people- we bury the poor things.
 
When you get PTSD it is like you do not want ANYTHING to suffer. I rescue cockroaches and get very upset if someone stomps one when I am in the room
So true! No one understands this about me. Last year my SO was trying to shoot birds with a HUGE rifle-looking pellet gun. I was a little upset watching him, but he was mostly hitting cans and occasionally saw a bird but missed. He convinced me that I needed to try shooting with the gun (I hate guns, fired 11 rounds with an M-16, horrible horrible horrible--wouldn't have been able to go to this program but I convinced my T to change my diagnosis back to a GAD so they'd let me in!). After him trying to shoot things for about three hours, there was finally a perched bird. I aimed to miss. I shot it. I was F*CKING MORTIFIED. He started congratulating me and then realized that something was wrong and became pretty concerned.

I gave him a talk telling him that he had never and would never be the bird, just the hunter. I've been the bird. : (
 
Oh my goodness, Anti!! That sent shivers up me. You must have felt terrible! Sometimes we do not know how deeply something that non-PTSD people can do without even thinking. When we try, boom!!

I was thinking of many of those things that comprise "normal" peoples' lives that have no place in mine at all. I truly feel like an alien because I don't get it.

Well, don't forget that at any given moment a "hunter" may become the "bird" There is no one safe from getting PTSD in this world!
 
My mother is a survivor of a couple of instances of sexual abuse (though she will never admit it outside of the only time she did tell me; she is not very good at being good to herself or dealing with herself over others). She had this experience where she was in a public restroom, and she heard the door open and then someone turned off the lights. She told this scenario to about 7 different people of different genders, asking them what their first thought was. All of the men she asked said, "Someone just turned off the light not realizing someone was in there--oops!" All of the women said that they would have feared an attack/rape.

...What does this say for perception?

It's true that at any moment the hunter can become the bird. But it is so hard for me to see that. I'm sorry, no offense meant to male sufferers, but most men with whom I interact do not know what it IS to feel fear when walking down a street at night. They do not know what it is to fear every passing car. They do not know what it is to make sure when parking that you don't park next to a large van or SUV that will block you from other's vision and potentiate a kidnapping. They do not know what it is to be afraid in an elevator. They do not know what it is to be afraid of stairwells. They do not know what it is.

Part of me wishes I could show them. I can't and really don't want to. I just want people to respect life and happiness and the rights of others as highly as I do. I was constantly in trouble at my last school (a community college I attended throughout high school to accumulate a transcript due to previously being home schooled). The guys there were all seven feet tall and had 100 pound girlfriends who they liked to yank around and be very physical with in public. I saw a lot of girls begging their boyfriends to stop what they were doing as they struggled to free their wrists or arms from the boyfriend's grasp. I would often go over and tell these guys that what they were doing was inappropriate and intolerable, that they needed to let their girlfriends go right now because they were asking them to do so. It was like they thought they were totally invisible to others, like their behavior had been so unchecked that they could not have fathomed this little 5'2" girl walking up to them and giving them a what-for. I was often worried that they would just shove me over or hit me, but I knew that they couldn't rape or kill me and that if they assaulted me it would be a HUGE charge (I was 13-17, these guys were 18-27ish).

Okay, stop writing now. Just, the inconsiderate way in which many people treat life never fails to amaze and horrify me.
 
That is an amazing post. It makes me wonder if male sufferers have it even harder because there is NOT that innate fear. In essence they are blind-sided.

It's quite sad that fear is so intrinsic to the lives of women, right from being young. That necessary survival fear probably is one of the reasons women are always getting these silly, stupid, and demeaning mental health diagnoses while men generally, no matter what, are given "depression."
 
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