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Relationship How Do I Let Go Of The Guilt?

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For those of you who do not know my situation, I am a supporter of a sufferer of military PTSD. I made the decision to leave my husband after 28 years together, just on 4 months ago. I left with the hope that it would trigger him to seek effective treatment for his condition, he said at the time he hoped it would be a temporary separation. 4 months has gone and things have not gone well and I have come to the conclusion that our marriage is not repairable, that the man I loved and married no longer exists and the man he now is just wants to accept his life as it is and live in solitude.

The problem I am having is letting go of 28 years together. I feel like I have failed him because I have not been able to help him. I feel guilty that our family is a mess. I found this forum and all the support and great advice far too late and too much damage has been done. He doesn't trust me and I no longer trust him. I did so many things wrong that have only added to his problems instead of helping him, I pushed too hard, I got bad advice from so called experts, I got angry at him. He shut me out of his life and wouldn't or couldn't share his despair. I don't blame him. I have made a mess of everything. I know I can't undo the past and I have to move on, I just don't know how.
 
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You were doing what you thought was right - you were taking the advice of experts.

Sometimes, even though at times we know we're not doing the right thing (by getting angry), I wonder just how we are expected to react in these situations when we know no better, aren't getting the support we need, and neither is the sufferer? I mean, seriously... some of the things that we have to contend with are so far from easy it's not funny - when we don't have the knowledge, support or information, is it not understandable that we'd feel angry and upset? Would we not do just about anything to get a response (whether positive or negative) from our sufferer?

It is tough, discarded, and I know the journey ahead won't be easy for you either. But as for the guilt - I don't know how you can 'rid' yourself of it (except for discussing this in counselling) but try to cut yourself some slack - I don't believe you ever acted with ill-will.

I have made a mess of everything.

No, you haven't. It takes two to tango my friend. Don't put the responsibility for how things have gone, completely on your shoulders. Your husband needs to get help - he just won't get it. Until he did that, how could things have ever changed for the better?

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You cant blame yourself for any of this, it was the PTSD that dragged you both so far down, you could not find a way back up.

There was a point until we found a good CPN, {Community psychiatric nurse}, when I thought I was going to loose my husband to it all too.

It will take you some time to come to terms with it all, and you will go through different stages and you move forward.

You will hurt for a long time, but you will get through it. just give yourself time.
 
I know. :hug:

I am just so sorry that it has come to this. I really am. My heart goes out to you. I know how much you still care for him and wished for a different outcome.

Do you think he expects that you will start divorce proceedings/property settlement or that it will give him a shock?
 
Try not to beat yourself up for what you did not know. I can understand your anger at those that gave you bad advise. I hate when this happens. It is a catch 22. You did the best you could with what you knew. It takes two to dissolve a marriage. It is not all your fault. You made mistakes, but you did not know. You were acting with what you knew at the time.

Your husband needs to hit bottom before he will reach out for help. And apparantly he has not hit bottom yet.

I cannot tell you how to let go of the guilt you carry. I think you are being too hard on yourself. You have to focus on you and your daughters life now. You have to rebuild a life for yourself now. That is what you need to focus on. The forum is here for you for support and listening. Other supporters have been where you are. Try to read their diaries and see how much you have in common with them.

This happens alot. Too much. But your husband needs help, treatment, and mabe even medication. If you left him to motivate him to get help, that backfired on you badly. But the guilt is not yours to carry. Watch out that yo do not what if yourself to death. This is all of my two cents.

You did the best you could with the information you had at the time. I am sorry you got bad advise. Unfortunatley that happens and we have to suffer the consequences. Are you in therapy or your daughter? You guys could benefit from it tremendously. Something to think about. It would be someone to advocate for you both as you go through this transition.

I left my husband for three months and he checked himself into rehab and got help. We got back together. The point I am trying to make here is if you continue to work on yourself and change you, your husband will notice. I do not know where his head is at. But he will notice the changes in you and your self esteem will rise. It will make a difference when you have to talk to each other.

You left him. That was your choice. Now you have to build a life for yourself, and your daughter. Therapy would be really good for your daughter. You will learn alot of good things if you find a good therapist that you are a match with.

I wish I could tell you how to let go. I do not know how to let go. I have asked people how do you let go and I have gotten now answers. Mabe the letting go happens later on after you have healed some. You are not guilty. Your husband bears responsibility for his part in not getting help for what ails him. He is drinking heavily and that makes it worse. I know you are probably worried about him, but he is a grown up and he is making his own decisions now. Well I hope something I said helped you out. Mabe someone will come along and give you better advise. I did not mean to harm you in anything I said to you. Hugs.
 
Discarded,

I echo what everyone said here. Wow 28 years....that is a lifetime nowadays.

I really feel bad for you both because the military does NOT do a good job with helping their soldiers post-war nor their families to understand the adjustments that need to be made. I personally know of war stories that would make wives and girlfriends cringe! These stories were never told outside the brigades. It helped me understand why people in war have such a difficult time adjusting to civilian life and develop PTSD.

You have to forgive yourself. You guys were in a snowball that built and built and sadly, didn't get the proper support and treatment. Not sure when he developed PTSD, but 4 months is really nothing for them to wake up. It may take years just to get them out of the hole so to speak. However, in the end, it's his choice. He is the one turning away because you can only be a wife for so long to someone who doesn't want one (in the way it used to be). Yes, he is a very different man and he is probably more frustrated than anyone else to see how he could let this happen to himself.

It's a different animal with combat PTSD because they are not a victim necessarily, like a child being abused by parents, people who are to love them. Often, it's THEM who are the aggressors (regardless of saying we are defending our country), and they live with many regrets of what they did.

Right now, you both need to be comforted. You need to be healed - he has a long ways to go. No matter what, you obviously love and care for him (I assume you have children together). Just let him know what your marriage means - no guilt trips of "you used to be like this." No blame game, no pressure, no expectations. Just tell him how wonderful he is and how proud you are of him. That is all you can do. Write him a letter so that he has something to look at and hold in front of his face. You don't have to say good-bye. You don't have to say anything else. Just remind him of precious memories.

In the meantime, be good to yourself.
 
Do you think he expects that you will start divorce proceedings/property settlement or that it will give him a shock?

I have told him I have to but I don't think he thinks I will, it will come as a shock. We went through something similar when he first came home from Iraq and it wasn't until we had to go to mediation regarding care of our daughter who was only 4 at the time that it really hit home. Then he got help for a while and we stayed together. She is 12 next week. This time the law has changed and we don't require mediation unless there are difficulties agreeing on care, he simply doesn't want her at all at this point.
 
Discarded, something I have never "fessed" up to on this forum is my own personal "reaction" just three months after our separation. My sufferer moves in this other person almost immediately after my departure from our family home. We had joint financial obligations and I agreed to "give up my stake on our property providing he took care of A B and C bills along with a vehicle we had purchased together.

It should have been a clean break, it should have cleared my name, and I should have been able to "maintain" my lifestyle and push past the emotional hurt and carry on with my life. He, however, had other intentions. He set out to hurt me, emotionally, financially, and it wasn't just a little bit, it was more like "get down there and stay there" He cut off all communication and blamed me, blamed me for putting his hands on me, blamed me for taking him to the hospital, even blamed me for his lies at one point .

Three months in, I am being threatened with court because these things were not being taken care of. At this point, the car is still not refinanced. My name is still on all the paperwork for the house, and that skank (the other woman) is driving around town in my car? I don't think so. I'm on the hook for this stuff? Really? Okay! I drove there, I broke every window in the house (part of the bills I was still responsible for, "new windows") as well as the car and although I know it was bad judgement, I have never been so angry in my entire life, I have never felt more used, more walked on, more taken for granted by any other person I have ever known. It was liberating, but I don't advise it.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt because of who he had shown me he was up until that point, I still had hope, I still loved him and I thought, if the shoe were on the other foot, I would want somebody to give me a fair shake. Just because the relationship ended, doesn't mean I forget what you meant to my life! Yea, screw that nonsense, I learned that the hard way. Hindsight is always 20/20.

It takes two people to be in a relationship and had I had this understanding of PTSD when we first parted ways, I may have made a few different choices, I know better for next time. My point is, don't beat yourself up. Anger isn't unhealthy, I don't advise rage but I agree with everybody here, he has to hit bottom, he has to want help, and you have to understand that he may never do that and be prepared for what that means.

I have instincts, I knew that the "benefit of the doubt didn't coincide with healthy boundaries, I could have made different choices, I knew better but at the time, I didn't care about the risk. I knew the likelihood of him owning these promises when he had lied about all of the other stuff he had promised was not great but in the moment, I listened to my heart and it turned out to be a very expensive lesson I will never have to learn again. Such is life! We all have weak moments, things we question, things we might have changed from our past and so on.

I find it funny when I hear people talk about PTSD as they understand it (I come from a military family) but none of them have actually experienced it first hand, none of them know that PTSD isn't just about rage or intrusive thoughts, or nightmares. PTSD changes people on a fundamental level, and much like a natural disaster, it leaves nothing but devastation behind. Broken marriages, relationships, family, and financial ruin is the only thing I have seen in regards to a sufferer who refuses help and I can't even comprehend what it does to the sufferer. It took away my sense of self, my sense of purpose, everything about my life that I loved and completely flipped it upside down literally overnight! I can certainly empathize with how you might be feeling, I had a life I loved coming home to, I had four years of really great memories and I feared everyday that I gave up too easily, I should've pushed harder, blah blah blah! It wouldn't have worked, he needs to go through this, and he chose to do it without me, for whatever reason. I will tell you it does get better with time, with the things I read, and the people I talk to about PTSD, my therapist, etc. I held onto the guilt for a long time, I teetered on whether my actions were selfish or healthy (a little of both I suppose). Ultimately, it played out exactly how it was supposed to and I really don't question too much anymore, but I am working on forgiving myself for my part, you will get there!
 
I finally drew my line in the sand in November, I had not seen my lovely man since June and comms had got less and less.

I so so wanted to help but he shut down and shut me out and reading between the lines he has done this before as he has kids who will not have any thing to do with him and family relationships which are strained to say the least .

I had 18 months with the kindest most lovely man and am so lucky that I never saw anything nasty from him, he just shut down .

The last message I had was that he was " not the person I knew" anyway I realized that there was pretty much no hope that I could help, so have tried to move on.He was getting treatment so I pray that he will pull out .

It would have been easier if I could have got mad, but I am just sad and I do have guilt that I walked, but what else could I do ?.
 
Sadly, I think you did the right thing. There is only so much any of us can take and each of us have our own personal limit. Each of us react in different ways and the end result seems to be the same anyway. They isolate and shut us out and leave us with very little choice.

For me the hard part is that he has been my life for over half of my life. I imagined we would grow old together, I gave everything willingly so that he could pursue his career in the Army, so he could go on deployments that he so readily put his hand up for. I feel so ripped off, so unappreciated and so let down. Yet I feel like I am the one who has let him down by not being able to help him.
 
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