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Is It Better To Recover Memories Or Not?

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cupfish

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Because my trauma started from the crib and ended at 18 when I left home a lot happened to me that I don't remember. In fact, I think I remember far less about my childhood than others. Many of us have recovered memories. They come when you don't expect it, a part of your mind is unlocked and bubbles to the surface. You have to digest something awful from your past, even now when we are grown and trying to be whole and steady. It can be a sound, or a phrase, or a picture and there it is, something awful you went through. It continually astonishes me how what has been locked in the mind comes back. I wish it didn't happen, but it does. About 1-2 times/year.

C-PTSD sufferers have so many horrible abusive memories that I don't agree it is good for us to recover those memories. There are too many. I don't want them back. I would rather have my past be blank than re-live what my mind found so damaging it blocked the event from my consciousness.

Where do you all weigh in on recovering memories? I think it's too much. It's too painful and awful. Your poor, hurting, traumatized inner child does not need to re-live those times. For PTSD sufferers who went through one or two tragic events I can see recovering all of the events and moving forward. For C-PTSD it's hundreds of episodes. It would take 6 lifetimes to digest all of this.
 
when they come bubbling up by themselves, it's probably a good idea to attempt to integrate them, in a safe way. The problem with memories that are bubbling back, is that when you shove them aside, they could become more nagging, and they could translate into other symptoms.

It's best to process the memories that come back in a protective environment, where you can get some support, or when you are feeling stable enough to handle them.

I have CPTSD but I don't think it's good either to repress everything on purpose. It has a tendency to become a "boiling over" kind of situation where eventually you need to deal with it, because the child self can't process it on its own. Imo :)
 
when they come bubbling up by themselves, it's probably a good idea to attempt to integrate them, in a safe way.

Exactly my thoughts. My T says that the memories will come up as our brain is ready to process them. If they come up, you learn how to deal with them in healthy ways. My T will have me write them down and we process them in therapy. If they come up between and are overwhelming, we have some meditations that I have learned to put them in a "Safe box" to deal with when I see her.

I do not think someone needs to go out looking to bring up memories though. Because if you do it before your brain is ready, you're asking to overwhelm yourself and end up in crisis mode.
 
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If they come up on their own then it'd necessary to process them in order to recover. My T says new memories come up because I am in a safe place now to handle them (I sometimes disagree).

I don't agree with pushing for memories to return because this can put a lot of stress on people and also make it more likely to have false memories. Its tempting to want to fill in the blanks. But not always in our best interest.
 
Thank God! My last T was big on recovering memories. It made me very uncomfortable. When they arise organically I feel it is my brain's way of releasing some old garbage that I am ready to face. Digging in the trash for memories is an entirely different matter.

One side of C-PTSD is an overstimulated sympathetic nervous system, where the fight/flight adrenaline and cortisol bursts come even though there is no threat. So we are always ready for the worst, and recovering memories proactively feels like something my poor overstimulated nervous system does not need.
 
Hmmm. Like you @cupfish my traumas started very early in child development... sadly though mine continued through my adult years for a good while.

My own take about "recovering memories" is just an opinion I formed for myself... because it was my experience, personally that several of my child memories and impressions were quite wrong based on the evidence and input from extended family members who were trustworthy. I understood, fairly quickly as a result in recovery not to accept every remembrance as fact or true. The situations that were processed in therapy were the "biggies"... the ones I did remember mostly. During the process, when new ones would seem to surface (often for me during sleep rather than in flashback though I flash back occasionally too), I would seek out independent perspectives with my extended family members where possible to "test" it against the memories, recollections and perceptions of people who were at or near adulthood at that time.

As I am now in my mid 50's that window has pretty much closed... those that remain (family members) have their own dysfunctions. So I switched tactics several years ago... and choose not to negate OR accept the truth of a memory. I chalk it up to "unknowable" or "unverifiable" and leave it at that. I tend to manage the mental/emotional stuff better than I used to... it used to be a ruminative or compulsive thinking pattern for me. When something new would surface, I'd latch on to it for days and maybe weeks seemingly unable to let it go. It was hard to break that pattern.

Like you share, " I would rather have my past be blank". But unlike "than re-live what my mind found so damaging it blocked the event from my consciousness", for me in the longer term it was more beneficial to frame it without defensive or fear based thinking so it ended up being something like (sorry don't remember exactly): "I would rather have blank spots in my past than accept a potentially false child impression as true and correct unless it can be verified and established independently." Now that has turned into "The family members I trusted and who were assisting me to rectify my past are gone/deceased. I have direct evidence that not all memories I had as a child were correct and accurate. Therefore, without evidence I choose to manage "new" memories without judgment about their correctness and truth."

Don't know if I wrote this at all well... or if it will make sense to anybody but it does to me. I'd written about it before here somewhere but not recently. Basically the two things that gave me some insight on this had nothing much to do with traumas at all. One was saying "my fraternal grandfather was 6'4" (he died when I was 15 and going through some of the worst of the domestic violence situations in our home - 11 to 15.) Talking to an aunt 10 years my senior I said that and she said, "6'4"? Charlie wasn't 6'4" he was 5' 11" (or 10?)" She was interested in how I got this and accepted it as truth so she stayed on the phone and chased it down the rabbit hole with me.

Basically, my "memory" was quite wrong but it was an approximation of a valid child's impression (she and I decided). He was significantly taller than my grandmother who was 4'10". He was thin and lanky in appearance. He had a preference for long cardigans over a dress shirt and with his trousers. She pulled some photos and when these were added up... yes he did look quite tall but the truth was he was not 6'4".

The other one was about my fraternal grandmother who died of complications of colon cancer when I was 9. In the 1960's it was not often the habit of adults to discuss illnesses, acute or otherwise... and my family did not directly discuss death or her various hospitalizations. As my father was diagnosed with kidney cancer and his sister dealing with sigmoid carcinoma (the one who assisted me above)... we were on the phone and dad was talking about his fears and preferences. I said a number of things but then said, "I'm pretty much okay with treatment options, things are a lot better than they used to be as long as I don't go piece by piece like grandmother did."

Again (rare for him) I was queried and we processed what I remembered and why it was not true. Because It was my father, I also called the aunt who was 19 at that time and she validated what my father told me. Same flawed memory based on a child's interpretation of events in the absence of being given facts. This time basically I was aware that she was ill. I was aware of surgery and hyper aware of concerns about cutting (surgery) and that it was dire and she might die (all true). But my "observations" during these events and hospitalizations was where apparently I already had developed the behavior of trusting my own observations and not (because it wasn't safe) asking.

All my grandmother's clothing had to be shortened unless they were home made. Due to her illness and the progression, she was no longer able to do this. My wrong interpretation was that she endured multiple amputations (toes, foot, below the knee). Her complications were gangrene and these options were discussed but not true or correct. However when combined with what I observed... not being able to see her toes, feet or legs... my child mind accepted totally wrong conclusion and I accepted it as being true for 3 decades.

Long winded but, with respect to "memories from my childhood" - especially from earlier childhood and during the times where I was experiencing repeat traumas or new traumas... I try to stick with and process those things I know and have validated to be true and correct. The rest I throw in the "unlikely to be resolved/unknowable box". For those I try to use my management tools.

P.S. My shrink was the quiet type... but in therapy as I related the experiences, problem solved, and arrived at the conclusion I shared actually was grinning like a Cheshire cat and nodding rather vigorously... which to me seemed like two thumbs up, applause and a "Bravo!"
 
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The veracity of the memories is a critical point and I appreciate your narrative. When a child processes an event it is according to very limited experience, and (in your case) a 5'11" tall man looked HUGE to you, but he was no giant, really -- your analogy is a good metaphor, as I increasingly realize that I may be trying to process memories that are not 100% accurate, and yet my sick brain uses that bad info to assess and respond to the memory and to how we react today in many circumstances.
 
Thanks... that post was so wordy I was afraid that people wouldn't be able to read it. Sometimes I can do better, but today wasn't one of them.
 
"... as I increasingly realize that I may be trying to process memories that are not 100% accurate, and yet my sick brain uses that bad info to assess and respond to the memory and to how we react today in many circumstances.

That is why along with memory processing... learning and acquiring the habits of coping and management skill sets for us is pretty much crucial.
 
The research that I've read suggests that healing requires the re-integration of those memories.

I don't believe the choice is between knowing or not knowing. The choice is between integrating them into normal memory where they can be defused vs. leaving them in active memory as fear, hypervigilance, etc. While it sounds like a good idea to leave sleeping dogs lie, the dogs aren't asleep and they're snarling at you.

During trauma, the parts of your brain that record and categorize your experiences is dialed back to a low functional level. The part that handles fear and other emotions is dialed up to 11. That's why memories are difficult to dredge up; they're not recorded like normal memories, but they are there.

In therapy, you can pull together memory fragments and make logical deductions about the missing parts, and by talking about it, you can move them into normal memory and defuse the hurt.
 
I guess that last bit was the crux of the matter for me, I did not feel able to make logical deductions reliably about the missing parts and had adequate evidence that false memory or child perceptions and assumptions were in play. I ended up trying to find and identify and normalizing triggers... which gave me a sense of some competency and helped me be a whole lot less (though not entirely) reactive. It also eliminated any lingering self doubts.
 
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