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Childhood Abusive Kissing?

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It's ok. This isn't an attack. It isn't. Biut I am sure that posting it here and getting the answers you're getting FEELS like an attack.
Take a step back. Relax. It will all hold.
Sometimes you have to hold on it what you know to keep you where you are before you're ready to move forward.

I'm going through a similar place but I'm in a different spot.
 
@Maxi
I think you've hit something painful and you're being bombarded with information that is in direct opposition to what you believe and what has kept you 'safe' and sane in your head. It's ok. REALLY. You might NEED to walk away from this topic on the forum.
I WOULD encourage you to print it out and bring it with you to your session. or copy your bits and email it... in other words. TELL YOUR THERAPIST.
Yeah. I know it's hard. I don't look my therapist in the eye anymore. He carries to much of my trauma now. Maybe one day I can look at him again but not right now.
The thing is, you really do need to tell her so you can figure this out.
 
Your post reminded me of a book I read a while ago by Alice Miller. I can't quite remember the name of it now (something to do with being a child) but what you describe sounds very much like what she discusses in the book, parents who are not bad people, not intentionally doing anything to harm their child, but who, through their own actions and issues, cause unintended harm...it's also interesting you say your childhood was perfect, as Miller also notes in the book that this is a common statement from people who have experienced this sort of situation as a child, and who find themselves conflicted between what they think, what they feel, and what they think they should feel. Lord knows I grew up, 20 odd years or so thinking my childhood had been perfect, idyllic, my parents had made it so, and the fact that it was plaguing me into adulthood must be my fault...now I have confided in others things that happened, and it's hard but I am starting to accept that what I thought, what I had convinced myself was the truth, and lived and believed for 15 years or more was not true...

I think @desiderata310 makes a good suggestion above. Talking about these things is hard, and sometimes it does help to get it out there in a different way. Whatever happens I hope you can work through your feelings on this issue, and that one day you'll find some peace xx
 
I agree with @desiderata310 try to bring it up with your T.

It's really hard to change what we think and coming onto a forum to ask people's opinions won't help you in that regard. We can only answer your initial question, which was that french kissing an infant is sexual abuse, that's a fact. The rest is more complicated and you need to figure this out for yourself and at a distance from those involved, as subjective thinking can often be skewed as we know. Your T will be able to give some objective insight for you which will hopefully provide more clarity.

For example, everyone tells me that being subjected to sexual acts as a child was abuse and rape. Yet I still blame and shame myself when logically I know rape and abuse are never the victim's fault.

Just pace yourself. Learning about a past event is hard in itself. Processing the reality of the experience is more complex unfortunately.
 
Going to just leave this right here...

http://traumatherapy.typepad.com/trauma_attachment_therapy/sex_abuse/



Rape: The sexual use, involving penile, digital (fingers) or objects on a woman's, man's or child's body without that person's consent, with forced consent (threats) or if that person cannot conset due to age, mental disability, state of drunkeness or druggedness, or relative social position to the rapist (employee, slave, patient, lower rank, parishoner, etc.)

Rape can include penis in vagina, anus, or mouth, or forced masturbation. It can include objects. It can include rubbing genitals on a person with clothes in between. Women can, but rarely do, rape people by forcing them to touch or otherwise sexually interact. People of any age can be raped. People in an otherwise consensual sexual relationship can be raped, if they say "no" or are asleep or passed out, and their partner is sexual with them without their consent.

Sexual Assault: Unsolicited, unwanted touching, grabbing, or other sexualized physical utilization of another person. All rape is sexual assault. Not all sexual assault is rape.

Molestation: See Sexual Assault. Often used when describing either the Sexual Assault or Rape of children. I wish this word would go away. I'd prefer "Child Rapist" to "Child Molester" since it's the true definition of what happened.

Effects of Rape and Sexual Assault: It depends on what happened, by whom, and to whom.
  • Adults who are raped by strangers tend to experience full-blown Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. No matter the circumstance, they tend to feel dirty, culpable, and ashamed. It ruins, at least for a while, their healthy sex lives, their sense of safety and trust in the world, and their image of an autonomous, safe self. If the adults had a history of childhood sexual abuse, the new rape often brings forth the same feelings, ego states, and flashbacks of the earlier time. Sexual situations with beloved partners can bring up flashbacks of the rape. Men who are raped can have a sense of loss of maleness and a whole other level of loss of self.
  • Children who are raped by strangers tend to experience all of the above including a pervasive sense of "badness", and without treatment may carry that sense of shame and fear of sexual situations to adulthood
  • Date rape: Rape by someone in dating situation, when the victim has said no or cannot show consent, brings another layer of self-blame, lack of trust, questioning of "fault", and social complications. ("I shouldn't have worn a short skirt; drunk so much; gone out with someone I didn't know well; etc.") along with PTSD.
  • Rape of a child or teenager by a parent, coach, teacher, older sibling, uncle, step-parent: Kids can't give consent, even if it's "friendly", it's rape. The worst thing I often hear is "It's (being an object of sex) what I'm for." Child rape by a person on whom the child relies for protection creates huge issues of identity, safety, goodness, worth, and sexuality. Some kids, after chronic sexual abuse/rape, become prostitutes. 75 - 95% or prostitutes were sexually abused as children. Link Removed. Many have flashbacks for the rest of their lives, unless treated. Many are not believed by their families. (The response of the family and/or institution in which the abuse occurred is strongly correlated with healing, or not, after the rape.) Kids who are raped tend to freeze, then go limp during the act. Afterwards, any sexual threat or even solicitation can bring the same passive, obedient response, making further exploitation more likely. Some re-enact their role with sexual acting out, a warped attempt of mastery of the situation. Most, but not all, people involved in sadomasochist "scenes" were sexually abused/raped as children. Child rape by trusted adults is a factor in most serious dissociative and Borderline Personality Disorder diagnoses.
Complicating factors:
  • Not all rape is violent or actively coercive. When attachment bonds are used to manipulate kids or adults into sexual activity it confuses the issue of desire, identity, and fault.
  • People can be physically aroused and even orgasm during a rape -- by the mechanics of the act. It still doesn't mean they wanted it. This is a huge issue in therapy.
 
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