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Supporter Dating A Retired Army Ranger With Ptsd - Need Advice, Please Help!

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ZumbaGirl_21

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I found this forum online last night and just joined today because the same as others, I am looking for help. As I have noticed it called on this website, I guess I would say I’m the carer. I think my situation is unique to some because there are a few extra factors…

My boyfriend and I have been dating for over six months. He suffers from extreme PTSD. He is a retired military vet, but not just your average retired military, he was an army ranger. Rangers are the ones who are the first ones in, make all the calls, responsible for other soldiers, etc. As a result he suffers from not only being haunted by the terrorists he killed, but the soldiers who died along side him. He blames himself for their deaths.

He was on all sorts of medication when we first started dating over the summer last year. He is currently not on any due to the fact that his hometown and his doctor are on the other side of the country and his scripts ran out. He is going back home for a while in a few weeks to get new scripts and get some things in order and then him and I can go from there.

There were a few fights when he was on his meds, but obviously they have escalated since he ran out. When we fight, due to his anger from PTSD, I feel like I can’t get a word in edgewise. I stop fighting and try to go to bed for the night and then he somehow manages to get me into hysterics by going on about how hard it is for him to sleep/live/function because of his PTSD and what I have to say doesn’t make a difference at that time. He says all I’m doing is making him feel guilty that he can’t be a normal boyfriend like I want and I make him feel guilty by crying, but he got me to that point by yelling at me about his PTSD and whatever I did or said “wrong” that night. Also, I don’t ever tell him that I want a normal boyfriend or say, “I wish you were normal.”

I do get angry when I try to tell him something that is important to me and he tells me he doesn’t want to hear it because he can’t deal with it right now. A good example is the future. He has a very hard time talking about the future, even if it’s the very recent future like within the next couple of months. I think this may be a PTSD symptom and I try to deal with it, but how am I supposed to keep dating someone when we can’t even make future plans, even if they are minimal? It’s very tough. I also get angry when he is so negative on the world around him and some of his issues really bother me.

I’m not trying to cause fights, but when he hits some nerves with me I feel I have to say something. We are both very stubborn though and with his PTSD to add, this usually does result in a fight. I often hear my mother’s or my friends’ voices in my head telling me not to back down and stand up for what I think is right. I usually will stand up for my point for a little while and then I give in to “agree to disagree,” but even then our fights do not get solved that night. I usually go to bed crying and one of us/both of us apologizes for fighting the next day, but it never seems like the issue got fixed.

To add to the above, the long distance thing is also a challenge. He has stressed that he hates my hometown and doesn’t want to be here forever. Because he lives in a beautiful part of the country, I am considering moving with him down the road (probably a year from now) if not permanently than at least for a while and taking things from there.

I’m considering this because I feel guilty taking him away from everything he knows with the suffering he has going on. I also know there are better opportunities in his state than in mine. With the technology available today, I should be able to keep in touch with my family and friends and visit them frequently. However, I also have a lot going for me here. I have a job I have been at for almost five years with opportunity for advancement. I am almost done with completing my college degree. I have a great network of family and friends here and my entire surroundings and everything I have grown up knowing is here. When we fight, I think to myself, is it really worth giving all of that up? I love him to death, but this puts new measures and twists on how the relationship will turn out in the future.

To end on a positive note, I want to stress that aside from the PTSD he is a great guy. He has always been supportive of me with work, school, etc and does almost anything for me. I believe he has made me his #1 priority and would do anything to help me advance my future and protect me from harm. He is sometimes over protective, but I believe that has been instilled from the military and I deal with that the best I can. He has never been abusive to me in any way. I will admit though, that his anger from PTSD does scare me when we are fighting. Overall, he is nice, respectful, protective, we get along when things are “normal,” he treats me very well, he has a great sense of humor and is the guy I’m looking for when PTSD isn’t a factor. He is probably the best guy I have dated, aside from the PTSD, and that includes being with someone for five years and almost married in my past.

I apologize for the lengthy post, as there is a lot to my situation. If you have taken the time to read it all, I thank you. And if you can provide it, I am looking for any help/advice. Positive, negative, should I stick this out/call it off, etc. Any help is appreciated.

Nights like I had last night are very hard on me, not only that night, but trying to get through the next day following and being exhausted from lack of sleep and crying. I have to balance a PTSD boyfriend and a late night fight with work, school, the gym, social life or whatever I have going on the next day. These happen about once a week and I’m not sure how much more I can handle in the future. I know things will get better when he is on his meds, but what if they don’t renew his scripts or don’t renew his scripts down the road? Does PTSD get better as time goes on? Worse? The same? I have so many questions that weigh on my mind when asking myself, is it worth sticking out? Any and all help/advice it appreciated. Thank you all again and I am also thankful to have found this forum!

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Welcome! You have come to the right place to learn and get advice. My boyfriend has combat PTSD too and even though each person in the military got their combat PTSD a different way - they all feel the same things. Your boyfriend being an Army Ranger does not have a different type of PTSD - it's all combat PTSD and they all feel that guilt.

I have a question... Why isn't he getting meds from the local (or closest) VA? If he has been diagnosed with PTSD and disabled with the VA the meds are usually free and are mailed to your current address. Plus the VA has all sorts of counseling options for both you and him. Really a great resource.

As far as expectations for the future...until he is back on meds for a while, its a crap shoot. He needs to be on meds or in counseling if he has combat PTSD as it sounds like he is not in control of his PTSD. I think you just have to encourage him to get to some place closer to where he is now....or have his at home doc call the meds in to the local pharmacy.

It is important that you look after yourself and set some personal boundaries. If he is yelling and looking for an arguement, just tell him you would be happy to discuss when he is calm but you don't care to be yelled at...then walk away, go for a drive or go to a friends house for a little while. Give him some time to cool down and then talk about that subject so you can resolve it. Just because you love him doesn't mean you have to be verbally abused when he is upset about something.

PTSD can and does get better as long as the sufferer WANTS to get better. He has to do the work, see the therapist, take the meds or do whatever is recommended. Unmanaged PTSD can get ugly.

Taker care,
Sisu
 
Sisu - Thank you for your advice. By saying that he has PTSD from being an Army Ranger, I guess what I was trying to say is that from what I gather, it seems more severe than some other cases. I don't know if that's exactly true compared to other soldiers, just what I've observed on some levels.

He has been to the VA here, but doesn't like it. He says they will give him a hard time about not going home to get his meds because that is his home address he has registered with the VA. He wants to wait til he gets back home to get his meds. That's fine, I can weather the storm at least until then... As far as therapy, I have no problem with him getting it, me getting it or both together. But it is him who doesn't want therapy. He says it doesn't help, just makes things worse. I think I've read that others with PTSD have said the same thing, so I don't know. I don't want to push him. Besides reading online, posting in a forum is one of my first steps to getting help and figuring out how I can help him. Down the road, I may look into therapy or support groups for those in relationships with PTSD sufferers. This is just the beginning and I am trying to get some direction.

And you are right both about my boundaries and that he does have to want to get better. Boundaries are something to be worked on. I try to walk away, but sometimes when he is upset he continues yelling. I have went to friends before etc, but in the middle of the night when I am already tired, leaving proves to be a challenge when I'd rather sleep. We are going to have to work on boundaries and postponing things for the next day. And he does want to get better, I just don't know if he will accept any help besides medication to get him there. It's tough and I really hope it does get better once he's back on meds... I'm trying to take it one step at a time and see what happens from there.
 
Welcome! I wish I had words filled with hope for you, but I don't. I found out about my husbands PTSD during our engagement and did little to understand what it actually meant. Good for you for find resources and knowledge!

I would spend less time comparing the severity of your boyfriends situation and more time remembering that while where PTSD comes from is different, its symptoms are often the same and just as devastating.

He doesn't want to go to the local VA because they will give him a hard time about his address, but he's fine with being off his medication and treating you poorly? I think we as supporters try to coddle our sufferers because we know the pain they bare. That isn't good for anyone. If you don't put your foot down now and really create a sense of respect for you, your space, and your feelings then it will only get harder.
 
Hi and welcome:)

I hope you get all the help and support you are looking for here. You seem to have built a really good life for yourself. If you moved you would lose it all.

It is important that you tend to your own needs and wellbeing. If you are'nt ok, nothing will be ok.
I wish you the best.
 
Hi,

erm..... I would say GET OUT. Having worked in the mental health sector for years and having PTSD myself im just seeing warning signs. My husband married me almost two years ago being well aware of my PTSD and we had a very VERY difficult first year of marriage. And I was on medication, saw a psychologist twice a week and made a HUGE effort when it came to my personal wellbeing.

You are not married to him, he is not your responsibility- this is usually a very difficult thing to wrap your head around especially if you love this person dearly. The response to treatment can vary from person to person. Specialists would advise WITH TREATMENT the recovery period can take anything from 3 years on. I would think due to the amount of trauma he witnessed that it will take some time. I have found the first BIG step of recovery for me was when I accepted that I have PTSD and that I need to do whatever it takes to get better. And believe me this acceptance is extremely difficult.

It doesnt sound like he is anywhere near being ready for a relationship, and you should definitely not move away from your support network. Thats a very dangerous thing for you to do. With all my treatment and busting my but to be ok, and working very hard on a solid support network I still tried to commit suicide twice and my husband has now been diagnosed with depression. Think very carefully about this journey you are CHOOSING. What happens when you have kids and he is still behaving like this? And are you ready for what this could possibly do to you? Some people in relationships with people with PTSD eventually suffer from secondary trauma them selfs.
There are programs that will help him so you not being that help is not leaving him with nothing.
The biggest thing for me to realize was that my husband could not be my life line, I had to have more than him. I dont know if your fella has come to that realization yet....
 
Dear Zumba,

As a sufferer, I feel I have finally found some relief from ptsd with meds and therapy. I really don't think there is any other way to get well. The journey can be long and hard, but the reward is life and that's what we all want. I am told that it actually gets even better with continued treatment and time. I wish you the best.

Neene
 
neene,

Are we dating brothers??? lol...Ive been living your life (almost, a few details are different, but mostly the same) for about a year and a half. It's tough, EXTREMELY TOUGH.

You're probaly never going to be tough enough to constantly 'take it on chin', but I think if you take a bit of a step back and focus on you, and you alone first, you will find that some of your misery and dispair will be alieviated. It wont go away completely, but you'll be able to accept a certain degree of crazyness and chaos better. You still have your own life, and if things work out down the road, then they work out, but what i've learned is that talking about future plans and moving forward only creates more pressure and stress and usually ends in a fight. and then isolation... for me the isolation is the worst....
 
Thank you all for the responses. Everything you said has given me a lot to think about.

Kathryn - You brought up some good points and I am going to take everything you said into consideration, but I don't think I'm going to end it yet. Like I said above, when PTSD isn't a factor, he is the best boyfriend anyone could ask for. He is great to me and would give me the world. It's just the days that he is depressed and I don't know what to do or the late night fights that are hard. Other than that, it's a great relationship. So in the meantime I am going to try to work with him to get more help, be here for him and if he does get more help and things start to go in a positive direction then it proves worth it. If they don't and things get harder, then yes, I would have to break it off. You are right, we aren't married and I can't have this keep happening in the future if we ever have children. That would be more than a lot to handle. I will definitely be taking all aspects into consideration before I make any permanent decisions with him (moving, marrying, breaking up, etc).

Revelry - It's funny what you say about your man and sounding like the same story. Isolation is tough. The nights that we fight until 2am and I have no one to talk to about it because everyone is asleep and I have to act like everything is fine the next day at work, I feel very alone and those days are the toughest. So, I feel what you are saying there! Thank you for your comments about future plans. It's good to know and take into consideration. Although it may be hard for me, I'll try to take it day by day.
 
Hi Zumba, I think we may have the same boyfriend!! Your original 4th and 5th paragraphs remind me of my relationship. I've been with my BF for almost three years and at the moment I'm really struggling with the same fights cropping up again and again because they're never resolved! I don't post on here an awful lot (I came on to post today though) but I read other carers posts every day. Everyone on here is great but only you know what's best for you. All the best, I'll look out for your updates! x
 
Thanks Curly! And yes, you are right, it is really tough when the fights never get resolved. The issues we have and fight about still resignate with me long after the fight is over, but he never mentions them again. I'm sure he probably just forgets most of them b/c he is a guy and guys tend to be able to do that in general. I'm really trying to ask myself a lot of questions and put things into perspective b/c you are right, only I know what's best for me. It's very hard to have the PTSD factor, but then also have the factor that he hates where I live and would really like for us to live in his hometown someday. And then if I ever try to talk about the plan of moving in the future, he says he can talk about it right now b/c it stresses him out. How am I supposed to fully decide what I want to do and prepare myself for that decision if I can't even discuss it with my partner? Ahhhhh!!! It's very tough and like I said, lots to think about. Good luck with you and your boyfriend. Keep me updated also!
 
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