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Eliminating Exposure To Ptsd For Others' Sake?

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@Junebug, Abstract has made excellent suggestions. I am wondering if you are trying to process too many emotions at one time.

I hear you and yes you make sense. However tools are required too! I feel you put everyone else first. This is very common.

Allowing ourselves that we do matter, that we have feelings and emotions. I am sending you oars. Slowly paddle forward.

You do matter but are not experiencing as you have no past example or it has been lost. As your mother said, courage! Are you holding in anger? Most likely you are. By writing and processing the anger and reactions of past, replace with action that allow your feelings. :).

It takes time which you so deserve. Baby steps! Behemoth Hugs, Whitney
 
I agree with Whitney's story. Fault is a put down word. You don't need any more of that. The best thing I ever learned to do from many therapists is to stop calling my self names. If I do, then I need to immediately replace it with the opposite affirmation. For example, stupid.Whatever caused the thought, I would say that wasn't a well thought out thing or directly, 'you are not stupid. That word came from someone else and it is a lie'.

Junebug, I feel the word fault places the blame on yourself. Is there a more positive word you could replace here. You are learning new thought processes which in time are allowing you to find new strength.
 
I agree with Whitney and Mercy Junebug.

I think you explained how you feel pretty well actually. I am assuming some of it is just what it is and some is the loss of the pups. ?

Do I just view it as ptsd
This is the way I see it. Please feel free to disregard if it doesn't work for you. I like to break things down as I find it feels much more doable to approach things that way. PTSD usually comes along with a lot of stuff and a lot of that stuff can come along without PTSD too. So for me I like to think of PTSD as the essential symptoms. The flashbacks and intrusions, the hypervigilence, the avoidance.

Other stuff such as lack of boundaries, lack of being able to give importance to our feelings, interpersonal/relationship problems, depression, depressive thinking, toxic shame, low self esteem, passive or aggressive qualities can all happen separate to PTSD and from such things as neglect, dysfunctional families, abuse and more. Growing up in environments like that can cause personality tendencies that can cause us a lot of distress and stop us from being able to protect ourselves emotionally or even physically. All of these things we can change.

The PTSD specific symptoms can improve by processing the trauma itself in a safe place with the right person to help us. Preferably when we are stable enough to deal with processing them safely.

When it comes to what to do with your big emotions about the puppies then I think it can be helpful to just let yourself grieve the loss. Be careful though as if you instead go into using it as a way to torment and beat yourself and tell yourself that the whole world is bad then that isn't ever going to be helpful. It tends to just layer distress on top of distress and shame.

Its extremely hard to break but like the others said you can catch yourself and tell yourself positive messages instead. That is what Affirmations are about. There is a lot of information that you can get that helps teach us how to deal with big emotions healthily. You could buy a book and work through excercise and even get help from others on here.

With your depression symptoms: have you tried SSRI's? It might help to be on meds to start so that you feel less helpless and have more energy to work on change. There are lots of workbooks and exercises you can do to help depression too. And yes, exercise and food and water are all important for depression.

When it comes to protecting oneself and being able to take ones own feelings into consideration there is an enormous amount of help one can access. The easiest way is to get books for co-dependency because that is what it essentially boils down to for those of us who are this way inclined. You can look at Stockholm syndrome too.

You could start a thread and discuss things as you go along and get input from others who have done therapy and done these things. These things take a lot of hard work to improve and they don't go away by themselves sadly. Treating the trauma alone doesnt tend to solve them either.

The important part is to start actively looking at these things and working on them. Most of the people over here are doing that in therapy or have done it in therapy and continue to attempt to work on it in their heads but you can do a lot with books and on here.
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PS. Practising mindfulness and radical acceptance was one of the most helpful things I started doing. And assertiveness, self care, learning to be kinder to myself (painfully hard), how to avoid depression inducing ways of processing things, affirmations etc. All the reading I have done has helped enormously.
 
I am wondering if you are trying to process too many emotions at one time.

Yes I believe it's all been more than I realized, maybe it was too much. Or just more than I recogized or acknowledged.

Anger is not such a biggie for me, even as towards myself more likely self-doubt or disgust. But that's similar.

Thank you for the oars, and everything. :hug: ((((((((Dear dear Whtney)))))))))).
 
Dear Abstract, your last post is really where I am or know where to begin.

I have not done the affirmations, tried but I could not do them (thus all the more necessary), but I have worked through years and years of virtually every book on the shelf. (Thank God I did it while I could still read, did all the 'work'/ exercises as well) . The co-dependence learned about more so through AlAnon (invaluable lessons learned), the 12 step principles through my life since a child. Meds I have not tried, some reservations, as it seems 'atypical' (vs biochemical depression). However physically it's closely tied in. I think also that hypervigilance in the form of insomnia, increased stress (anxiety) etc, certainly intertwine. I don't think Stockolm applies, or radical acceptance wouldn't be as necessary! :rolleyes: ( :) )

I imagine the greatest complicating or contributing factors are bad self worth, toxic shame, emotional flashbacks, remembering what I'd rather not, sheer wear-and-tear, lack of purpose, tiredness, feeling physically unwell, learned or internalized beliefs. I think like Whitney said too much at once, maybe since june and all the stuff. Plus I don't have very good self-soothing skills. Also memory issues. Trust issues. 'Hope' issues. :unsure:

Your information is invaluable, dear dear Abstract. And time and effort and sweetness. Thank you (((((( :hug: :inlove: ))))))). I really am a candidate for 'baby steps'.

(((((Abstract :hug: ))))))
 
Please laugh with me on this one! I have 7 written journals. It was not until I landed on the forum that even though I worked through tons, I was talking to myself.

Communicating with others adds so many benefits. When things circle around in our mind and don't get processed into new thoughts. I feel they keep cycling. I was fortunate to have a great therapist who helped me with the listing and change from react to action.

I see a means to progress with what you have listed. :). By separating into smaller workable issues, would allow your mind to breath as well:tup: ((((((((((((Junebug)))))))))))). :hug: Whitney
 
When things circle around in our mind and don't get processed into new thoughts.. they keep cycling.

Oh my gosh, yes- spiraling in my case. I do worst left to only my own thoughts. :( !

Oh yes, :laugh: , I remember pre-computers having binders to throw away. I had kept and hid them, then one day it occurred to me I had changed and it wasn't 'me' anymore. That was early 90's. It seemed (I thought) I had a decent grip on it. Mind you, most was to manage depression or make ammends to others, I didn't consider anything I had gone through as qualifying as traumatic. (Although I do recall one exercise that took 20 minutes the first time, 6 months the next time I did it :roflmao: ). It only resurfaced in 2008, really, after 2005 onward very unsafe and really scary.

I would never have 'allowed' myself to go through this stuff, did not know I even had all that in there. But I guess, ironically, that's when they say you feel safe or better. No one's fault but I never had help like all this before 2006. I suspect that causes me a Large Meltdown actually, especially as regards shame, and 'unentitlement' etc. I never was the one asking for help usually and didn't reveal anything.

I think also, I can 'decompress' a bit usually every second weekend my sister goes away, she didn't last 3 and so for the 6 weeks prior to/ during the dog experience that played a huge part.

(((((((((((Dear Sweet Whitney)))))), and Dear Abstract and Dear Mercy, thank you for your kind words, support and encouragement to me when I have been at my messed-up lowness. :eek: I am so lucky and treasure it, I really am so blessed, thank you so much, xox. :inlove: :hug:
 
Junebug, from what you are saying about decompressing when she is gone, what can you do when she is home.

A relaxing movie or book to read. A hobby you enjoy to distract from walking on eggshell feelings.

This is your home too. We need to find a way to relax and breath. Nice music, fix yourself a nice meal; aroma therapy. Something that feels special for you. :x3::laugh:

2008 something surfaced, unsafe and scary. This sounds like something unresolved. If you are able to review without reliving the experience, are you able to view the past reaction to what is different now. What may be holding back. Do you feel safe now?

You mentioned the crisis line is not an option. Do you have therapy options available? I feel we are happy to be here, and want to find the best options for you. :) Hugs, Whitney
 
Dear Whtney thank you, I will work on the environment. The eggshells and unsafe feeling come primarily from the environment being unpredictable. Dfficult to relax when I am unsure what may arise. But it's hugely better than it was, with rare exception.

2005 through about 2007/2008 were very unsafe and terrifying, both for myself through the actions of my sister and for my sister herself on occassion by a 3rd party (which I was privy to or in the midst of)- uncontrolled drinking, violence to me, threats of violence,death and homelessness (to me) , threat of suicide (hers), on about 3 occassions, domestic violence directed at her. I often wonder drug use? Also 3rd party would occassionally direct other stuff (sexually) at me (undesired/ unwarranted/ non-consensual), when drunk. 2008 was just a 'bad date', could have been worse. I was doing really well by then, despite everything. After that I ended up here. What surfaced was my own past, insomnia, SI (with a vengeance).

The stupid date put me over the edge. I had to keep interacting with him on occassion and eventually even sought him out (on occassion :( ). My friend said (not to me but in general) that abuse, and abuse by men against women is always wrong. I just recall trying to 'manage' how I felt and somewhere around july (the date was may) deciding kind of half-consciously that if the last (next) thing I tried to cope didn't work that was it, I was done. Realized concurrently when I accidetally 'found' (seriously) a book sitting there "How I stayed Alive While my Mind was trying to Kill Me" that that was my 'plan' if last attempt didn't work, and that 'bad date' and what followed had bothered me a lot more than I thought or acknowledged.

Could I ask, which part then would be 'unprocessed', or is that processed? And what does unprocessed actually mean?

No, no T due to financial constraints. Crisis line I tried by e-mail once but I don't/ didn't want to talk about anything and though I admire what they are trying to do it didn't help at all and the questions were textbook.

Thanks Whitney! Big :hug: :inlove: .

(PS, maybe it's 'processed' since much better than then?)

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