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Day Treatment programs are meant to be easy-going so that anyone can attend and feel safe, even while coming out of a crisis situation. It's all about providing safe structure, preventing isolation, and encouraging positive interactions with the world. If you compare it to college, sure, it will be disappointing but, if you need it in the moment, it makes a nice safe mini-vacation from stress.

Positive energy and expectations lead to a positive outcome. And, yes, it's possible to go in miserable but feel more positive as the program moves along.

For me it's not safe, I feel really really bad there, not only bored. Probably if activities where more challenging my mind would be too busy to make me feel that bad.

I need to keep my mind busy in order to don't drive crazy. The only times I feel good is when I am at lab doing chemistry stuff...

Probably if this forum were in Spanish I would express myself so easily I would be too overwhelmed before finishing and It would end with me not posting anything. I can't shut up my brain, If it not busy enough thinking, learning or expressing myself, it will torture me.

I am going to tell this to my psychiatrist -maybe he doesn't know why I refused to participate in activities-, I am writing something about the dextromethorphan, also I want to tell him I would like to go back to psychotherapy.

I don't know what you mean by 'move along', but activities are always the same. The program is the same.

Well, I don't mean this to anger you - but you clearly don't know how to actually handle medication if you believe that drinking a bottle of cough syrup is somehow going to be good for your mental health.


I don't think that. I knew the risks and I just took them. -I am studying a degree in pharmacy-. I had some relief from dextromethorphan, I still have some mild euphoria mixed with my normal fear of everything.
I looked at my school calendar and I felt excited, this is good, I really want to learn.

I don't know how it works in your country; would a private doctor be willing to take you on for free, or for a very reduced scale? Is there anyone at all at the hospital where the day program is that you could lean on a little more, get their help in getting more specialized care?

Double no... I cannot afford almost anything, I barely have enough money to buy food -cheap food-.

I truly wish you find some peace, I know what it's like to be in and out of institutions and looked at like a non-person. I hope you get some relief soon and please know I'm rooting for you!

Thank you. I like reading what you -all- write. It's insightful.

I try to listen to what you -all- say even if I may be really stubborn.

BeeBee-I totally agree with what you are saying about the day hospital and know that the psych hospitals do more damage than good. It exposes you to much worse than you have experienced and frankly, some of the employees could benefit more than most of us. I would like the administrators to be put there for a few days and see if they changed how things were done.

I also agree with others-that the day hospital also provides structure and prevents isolation , which can be really important for you right now.
Could you set in your mind, or pretend that you are the intern or writing a book on the program, and instead of feeling like the patient, use the time to be learning from the professionals? That way instead of just doing the math or coloring or another busy activity, you could kind of study what the staff is doing. You could be objective. Who knows, you really might end up contributing to change in this field one day.

The staff just give you the activities and that's it. It's boring. Most of them aren't nurses but assistants. I can do much more during practice lab hours at college.
I tried it, really did when I didn't have lessons, but I just got angry and frustrated. I can try again but I doubt there would be any difference unless something changes, this is why I will tell my psychiatrist all of this.
 
BeeBee,
I am stubborn and highly intelligent. I won't touch a day program with a barge pole (meaning = no way!) and I sympathise. So
I recommend,, if you don't mind me butting in :
1. tell psychiatrist how bad it has got and insist on twice weekly therapy (or take once a week therapy and then tell the psychologist why you need more often once you ARE seeing him or her)
2. Get support in place. use your college, - they have welfare staff. Get the email and tell THEM you need more support.
3. don't act out. It usually ends up in more mess ( I should know) so use your great brain to work out what you need and want and how to articulate that, how to tell people what you require and put it in place. Use the National Health service in your country and make sure your doctore and psychiatrist and your welfare and support people at college all know you are vulnerable and need more help.
Then come and tell us here how that all went.
 
BeeBee,
I am stubborn and highly intelligent. I won't touch a day program with a barge pole (meaning = no way!) and I sympathise. So
I recommend,, if you don't mind me butting in :
1. tell psychiatrist how bad it has got and insist on twice weekly therapy (or take once a week therapy and then tell the psychologist why you need more often once you ARE seeing him or her)
2. Get support in place. use your college, - they have welfare staff. Get the email and tell THEM you need more support.
3. don't act out. It usually ends up in more mess ( I should know) so use your great brain to work out what you need and want and how to articulate that, how to tell people what you require and put it in place. Use the National Health service in your country and make sure your doctore and psychiatrist and your welfare and support people at college all know you are vulnerable and need more help.
Then come and tell us here how that all went.

I like numbers. I am trying to be positive and open minded while answering.

1. I am writing something to give him. I try to explain him how bad it is. I guess I will have therapy with him once a week and I may go to activities two hours on Tuesday and three on Friday. I don't like the activities part but they cannot offer therapy twice a week, this is the only solution I see to don't be alone for 7 days. I hate this but maybe all of you are right and I shouldn't be alone that much time.
I am going to give him what I am writing in 10 days, when the day hospital is opened again. I am a bit ashamed of giving it to him. I don't know exactly how to tell him I want to go back and try everything again even if I hate it.


2. My college only support is allow me to record lectures. They don't have anything else to offer to people with mental health problems. But I think it could be a good idea to personally talk with teachers, some of them are really understanding.

3. Next month I am going to ask for an extra economical help. The place I have to go is closed on summer. Meanwhile I am trying to have a normal routine and I try to avoid doing crazy things. I really would like to take dxm again.......................................... But I think I will read this thread each time I want to do it again, to remember why I shouldn't.
 
Just a thougjt, but if your in college what about taking advantage of their counseling services?
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Because it is not for people with mental disorders, it's for students who are having an specific academical problem without any kind of past mental health issue.

I asked about it when I started college.
 
I don't like the activities part but they cannot offer therapy twice a week, this is the only solution I see to don't be alone for 7 days. I hate this but maybe all of you are right and I shouldn't be alone that much time.
I support the 'don't be alone all that time' thing.

I went to every day of a 2 week program for about 3 months - and sat through some really wacky activities. But it filled 5 days of my week for part of the day, and it was a place I was expected to be, and that made it so much easier to not hurt myself. Just sharing, if it helps.
 
BeeBee,
I think it is a huge step that you are considering the activities even though you don't like it. Good for you!
Sometimes the things that are the most undesired for us end up being what we need. Sometimes intelligence gets in the way of the most simplistic things. Even with a head injury, I am smarter than most (according to their tests and my own performance), but it causes anxiety and self doubt. I have been helping the homeless by volunteering. I am feeding them and giving them rides and things. They are very dirty and lack social skills. They often ask for financial help and it is hard to say no, but I am barely making it financially with a masters degree. Sometimes I wonder why I am doing this.
 
Great BeeBee for writing up how you are doing to give to him.
I applied for disability benefit because my CPTSD is so severe and I got it and it is doesn't matter if I earn - I just get the disability payment anyway. I use it to get me additional therapy like EMDR or acupuncture or buy books on my condition or attend talks or training days for my own benefit. It is like having pocket money to use to get me better. I am so glad I got it. It is quite a decent sum too. My psychologist said I wouldn't get it but I am very good at filling in forms and I got a friend to help and I slowly got it done. Even better, when they agreed that I needed the money, they back dated it to the date I first rang up to ask five months before. !! By then it was a whole lump sum of money. I was stunned! I also got a disability car badge which has made my life so much easier. On the UK it often says that you can't get disability benefit (Called PIP) for a mental health issue and the same for the car badge, but I got it, with a letter from my psychologist supporting what I said. I am often unable to function or get up or get out and often collapse and need rescuing so at that level it is severe. Also I have found that people take me more seriously when I say I am disabled rather than I say I have a mental health problem. So it is a win win/ I also get a ticket for me reduced and a carer for free when I go somewhere. Just trying to encourage you. They have to be some 'perks' with this condition!!
also keep posting on here so that people know how you are
 
Hi all. I wrote a letter to my psychiatrist and gave it to the psych nurse. She would give it to him on tuesday -he has vacation until then-.
 
I called my psychiatrist today and he gave me an appointment for next friday. He said he have read what I wrote to him.

He gave me some clonazepam too.
 
I had the appoinntmment today. It went well. I am going to the day hospital on fridays. I stayed this friday, people talked about what was on newspaper butu I hate newpaper and then they played trivial but it was too boring and entiites were making me agry andd annoyed. But my psychiatrist inroduce me anothher new patient who is also highly gifted and we had an interesting talk. When I do really easy things entities get mad and me and make me feel anxious and put thoughts inside my head and everything goes worse.
 
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