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Last night, while having an episode (rage attack? emotional floodgate opened?). They really, really suck. And leave me cursing God, asking him to kill me. I only got 2 hours of sleep after posting in the combat forum. It was a good 2 hours of sleep (surprisingly) after letting all that crap out. Anyway...

I think this might be long and I apologize in advance.

So Im finding out I have childhood related PTSD as well as combat related PTSD. I thought it was just combat related but by working with a therapist and other people, Ive been exposing a seemingly complex web of traumatic events, some way more profound than others.

I guess it starts with the normal stuff, like, me being very attached to my parents and father leaving when I was 3. Always cried every time they left, maybe afraid I'd lose them forever? I was extremely sensitive, with no siblings, I isolated in my own world I guess. Pretty sick memories in my head from the time I with my mom and step dad (don't really wanna mention them). I was 5 and I remember him going berserk one day, beating my mother and somehow pushing me down a steep flight of stairs. He didn't mean to (didn't think this would hurt but it does). I spent some time in leg braces. Im not sure why, memories are vague. I remember a kid making fun of how I walk. I still get flashbacks of the dumb kid. I know it sounds stupid but it screwed me up (embarrassing fear of walking in public). Screw it! I might as well throw it all out there.

My mother kept leaving me places (she was working and going to school), kept taking her boyfriend's sides over mine. I detached from her. I acted out a lot. I would run away from camps and other places she sent me to. Cursing people out, no respect for elders. Calmed down after starting catholic school. I really tried to fit in but couldn't. Things happened in this time that really screwed me up.

Tried to validate myself in HS by joining gangs and acting out even more. That had its moments like, when members of the same gang didn't acknowledge my set and came after me. I had to leave my school. Too much running from my gang and other gangs in the area. I went to about 7 different HSchools. I think it was number 4 that really screwed me up. It was a boarding school called Laurinburg Institute in NC. The school was a sham. Living there was like being in a prison with no guards. Every time I called my mother and told her how it was, she didn't believe me (boy who cried wolf). So she wouldn't let me come home.

I had permanent gang scars that I tried to hide, cause when I got there, I was the youngest and most of the other kids were rival gang members. Couldn't run anywhere this time. The school was surrounded by 4 crazy projects and if you were from NY they'd shoot at you. I had really traumatic events out there. Got my first taste of panic. I was abused until I snapped. I tried to set the place on fire and threatened to kill a few of them. I started standing up for myself. They left me alone. I started to like it there. I was a full blown alcoholic. I cant even remember doing school work. I turned 15.

The start of the school year, a lot of new kids came in. The dorm leader couldn't control anyone. He would lock himself in his room and sniff coke. I only seen him come out when this poor kid was being stomped out in front of his door. At 3am, kids would run around the dorm kicking other kids' doors down. Some kids had guns. An older kid I looked up to committed murders out there like it was okay. Im gonna stop there with this part of my life.
I went home thinking, "Im a man now, I earned my respect". Instead, I couldn't go back to a regular HS because my panic attacks were debilitating. So I drank to self medicate. I ended up in treatment centers/schools for troubled youth. I learned how to solicit and abuse prescription drugs like ridalin and aderal. I will fast forward.

At 17 I was in really bad shape but someone thankfully brought me to AA, where I stood and got better. Had relapses here and there, but I later enlisted in the Marine Corps at age 20. A great decision, that really straightened me out. I was in the reserves so I still had a life over here to tend to. Had some ups and downs but at 22 started a promotional gig in times square. The mass interactions with so many different people help me tremendously. I came to love humanity. I felt I had found myself. Finally!
Then I deployed to Iraq.

You can read that part of my story in the combat forum. But in a nutshell, I came home worst than ever. Haven't been able to find myself since. I wish I could go back to the war, but I got into trouble when I came home and was other than honorably discharged. I really hate myself sometimes. I think part of me subconsciously wants to die.. always! I feel I am an extremely sick person. If I don't fix me.. Im dead.

I remember getting a lot of auditory flashbacks and people yelling and screaming in my head from all angles at age 16. That was some REALLY scary shit. Now I get mostly emotional flashbacks from the war.

Ive had nightmares all my life. Ive grown used to them. I could be Stephen Kings lost relative or something.

I became so apathetic because of the war. Always under constant stress and anxiety. Im a ticking time bomb. I can play it off like Im keeping my cool for a very limited amount of time until I go into another episode (rage attack, isolation, panic, depression etc).

I love making my music. When I immerse myself in it, there's not much room for negative and intrusive thoughts. It's the only thing that doesn't seem to be completely affected by my apathy (It does happen once in while).

Im sorry I wrote so much. I feel a lot of relief since finding this forum last night. I think its helping to write/type this stuff out. A couple of you already reached out to me and I'm really grateful for that.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.
 
Welcome to the forum DP,

You sure have been through a lot!! This is a great place and there's lots of great people and some wonderful information too. Glad you found us!

Jen
 
Thank you Jen.

Im really glad I found you guys too. Typing all that stuff out and sharing it took a little weight off. There's still stuff weighing me down, but I guess in time I'll be able to work through that.

I have to stay connected so Im gonna try to stay close to these forums and other people in my life that want me to heal. I have to stay out of that isolation trap.

Im looking forward to being a part of this.
 
Hi All The Way From The UK...!

Hey there. I've read your post and you should give yourself a pat on the back for getting through to where you are today.

There's a lot of support here and info if you feel ready to go for some therapeutic help. You never know, you might well be able to add some words of support to others here also.

As a fellow muso (got a house full of guitars...) keep on with that whether it's rap, rock whatever. Do any live performing or writing. I know a couple of people that have found great comfort in this.

When and if you are ready to try to find some way forward through what you've endured, do think about some CBT to help with any PTSD you may encounter. Or even EMDR. If you need a steer on any of that let me know.

Anyhow, glad you're on board.

Cheers and keep on keeping on...
 
Thanks Simon.

I had some CBT sessions in the VA hospital. I didn't know about EMDR till I came to this forum. When I go to the VA tomorrow, Im going to ask them is they offer EMDR treatment. I really wanna feel free from myself (if that makes any sense :/ ).

I really wanna get into performing but Im afraid because the last time I got on stage (a little over 2 years ago), I had a bad experience (its all in the combat PTSD forum under anger) which led to an episode of blind rage. I lost control and it really scared me. It wasn't the first or last time. I know I can't run from myself. I have to face this.

Something tells me (a very strong feeling inside me), that if I can get over this performing hurdle, I can reach new heights within me that I only imagined. I had a glimpse of my higher self before I went war. If I could somehow reconnect with that person and take him to the stage, then something amazing can happen, almost phenomenal (phenomenal to me at least). This probably all sounds crazy to someone reading it.

I find a lot of comfort and hope in my music, almost like another part of me is coming out and telling me to stay strong even though its hard. I believe in my music. Other people hear my music and believe in me. But a lot of the time, I don't believe in myself. I beat myself up and get in my own way. I wanna give up at times and run back to the war where Im "safe?!"

Or... If I could take the high road, I imagine being able to reach and help a lot of people through music someday. I hope I could take the high road.
 
Hi DP and welcome to the forum:hello:
You have been through alot but you are here so a well deserved pat on the back is what i say :clap:knowing it hasn't been an easy or pleasant trip for you.

I love music too, it gets me through lifes challenges/drama's ect:smile:

I am wishing for you all the best:Hug_emoticon:

Pebs
 
Hi DP,

It sounds like you've been through it all in childhood and combat. I actually really wanted to catch you in the chat room as I hear you were in their yesterday.

My bf is suffering from combat related ptsd, joined the Special Forces when he was 17 years old, just retired after almost 25 years of service. The horror stories are horrific for him, the constant movie script playing in his head is too difficult to bare.

It seems like the only hope is in TH and he's started that this week again but it's going to be a long road. Anyway, I'm thinking of you and I'm glad to hear you are in TH. The other modality aside from CBT that my bf is trying this week is called EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique). Apparently there has been some good success with vets but I can let you know if he shows any improvement with it.

Take care,
C
 
HI and welcome. I hope your time here has already lightened the load even a little bit. Congratulations for being able to tell your story. I can't,even 18 years later and am always a little awestuck by you folks who can, seriously! I will say that being here, I know I will one day, which is something I would have considered as likely as flying just a few weeks ago.
Take care!
 
I would like to thank you all for the replies.

Thanks Pebs. I try to give myself more credit but I usually just end up beating the crap out of myself instead lol.

Anni, there's still things I can't talk about so I think I understand where your coming from. I hope I have the courage to let everything go one day.

CC, I really feel for you and your bf. I know he has seen way more than I have in combat so it's got to be hell for him. The war changed me dramatically and a lot of the time, I feel it's irreversible. But I always wonder if maybe I can redeploy and go through more pain, I can get to a point where I wouldn't wanna go back. I want to get that out of my system. But is that even possible? If it's anything like my childhood trauma, I wanted to stay in that place too. It became comfortable. I wonder if there's a connection.
I talk to guys in their 50's that have PTSD and wanna go back to Iraq/Afghanistan. I know I am an adrenaline junky and I like to be in a place where I can comfortably carry my rage, without the fear of losing control and going to jail etc. Does your bf ever feel like or talk about going back sometimes, or was he able to get it out of his system and never want to return?

I know you have to have a lot of patience with your boyfriend. Give him space when necessary but stay supportive. Treatment is not easy either. Sometimes groups brings all the pain to the surface and you end up leaving feeling worse (it happens to me atleast). I have groups today that I really don't wanna go to. Your bf is gonna have a lot of triggers. For me, they can seem pretty complex too. I gave up trying to explain to some people how certain things are (complex)triggers for me. They just don't get it. Wether they are trying to help me or not, I usually end up getting extremely frustrated. To sum things up, PTSD SUCKS! lol.. But we don't get better unless we face these issues.

Its really wonderful that you're here to support your bf. We can be a**holes sometimes. But a lot of the time we don't mean to and it hurts us. If he doesn't appreciate what you're doing now, sooner or later he will when he starts feeling a little better.

(sigh) do I take the high road today or the low road...

It seems like a never ending struggle. I feel like isolating from the world today, turning the phone off, playing ps3, watching movies. But if I do that, I wont get anything done this week and I'll be 100% miserable. I think its better for me to face the world. Even if I feel an episode coming on while Im out there, at least I tried...right?

Thank you again everyone. CC, I hope this helped or was a little insightful. Even if it wasn't, if it didn't make anything worse, then it's cool lol. Let me know about his progress and feel free to ask anything. If I don't know the answer, Ill ask another veteran that might.

Godbless
 
Take The High Road...

Hey DP. Good to chat with you. Music is a great channel for all the emotions as you know. Getting onstage is a rush so getting hypersensitive at the same time could kick you off into something but the pro's will definitely outweigh the cons and you sound like you can say a lot through the music so please try and keep it up. Also, there's a lot you can do with kids music wise if you have the interest which can definitely be a good channel. I used to do some stuff at the local youth centre and the response from the kids was great. They got a good buzz and so did I.

I was interested in what you said to someone else about almost feeling 'comfortable' in a conflict environment and drawing parallels with that earlier time in your childhood. That's some interesting insight. Am still thinking about that.

Let me know how you got on re EMDR. Where creative performance is concerned a slightly different protocol is followed, pioneered by Dr David Grand and musicians and actors have worked with that treatment. It's different to the original EMDR model for PTSD but it might help you.

As for taking the high road - there is a book called Black Dog - a really good book mainly about depression but there's a link to what you mention.

It might help you DP.
 
Wow! Welcome. What a story, good job relating it to us. We are here to help and support you. If music is your thing, you are lucky. If you can find a 'thing' you are lucky. Something to take your mind off things.

Hang in there.
Clydie
 
Hi DP,

My understanding from all of this is that nobody goes to war and comes back unchanged.

Oh my god, would he ever go back, without a doubt and even though he retired he does some contract work for the UN and has been back there in Afghanistan and some other destinations. This job has nothing to do with his military days but he always seems to have stories when he gets back, one that involves him in combat. I'm a bundle of nerves when he goes but luckily it's been over a year since he's been back there. I told him that last time, the fact that he can't go to these places because he's looking for trouble and for that adrenaline rush. Anything Army is comforting to him, he's even taken some of medals off our walls, a bullet ridden US flag that has a story behind it and he did this so he can be surrounded by comfort since he's not at home right now.

Last night he called me and said something very encouraging to me, he told me how much he loved me and thanked me for not triggering him for the past 2 days and he knows how hard that is because I'm really only expressing myself and even though he knows I'm white knuckling it he wanted me to know how much that has helped him. So I'll continue maybe venting here but not being his trigger (crossing fingers I don't slip) Sigh!!

Jokingly I told him when he's feeling better, he so owes me...LOL. Okay maybe there's a bit of truth behind it...hehe.

Thanks for your response and your encouraging help, I hope that you find peace, continued support and TH help. I'll be following your story!

CC
 
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