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Medical Marijuana And PTSD

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To Stillscared - Like I said, for some people it isn't right and they just shouldn't use it if it gives them a bad experience. And it's not wrong for me to say some people were forced into rehab, because I know some of those people, and they did not need to go because it made their lives progressive. But by saying it is a drug, for one adds to the propaganda of it. Like that commercial where the girl just melts into the couch. Yeah, that's what happens to everyone when they smoke... They melt into couches or they forget to walk their dog. I smoke all day every day, I work at an animal shelter(not high) get my job done, come home and to unwind instead of taking a seriously addictive and harmful drug like oxycontin... I smoke weed. For A LOT of us it's a safe alternative where we aren't being self destructive.

But when you make claims like 'its addictive' that means (by everyone else on Earth) that it is assumed to be a physically addictive drug. By the way, it is not a drug which that claim further adds to the crusade against marijuana. But back to the addictive part - I have been addicted to oxycontin, alcohol, cigarettes, and morphine, and Oxycodone. All of those things were an actual addiction. You say you had an addiction to alcohol, so you must know the kind of addiction I am talking about. The physical one. The aches, the pains, the outbursts, when you want it more than you want food in your stomach. Marijuana does NOT do any of those things, but there IS propaganda out there to make us believe that there is. The type of 'addictive habit' marijuana is, is the same addictive habit like everything else on Earth that is an addictive habit. Driving for example, I LOVE to drive. Does that mean I need to go to rehab for driving? No. But if there is someone out there who doesn't like to drive and prefers to take the bus or car pool, then fine. At least they are getting where they need to go.

But that's the only bill of 'addiction' marijuana fits under. The one that any thing you do can fit under. It's unfair for you to smite it when I have three NON violent friends that have had their lives ruined because they were selling weed to their friends. I was involved in the raid, and I had a gun pointed in my face. Later, as we were detained on the porch, they made jokes about how they almost shot my friend because he was moving too slowly. My other friend? He actually got shot. He's f*cking dead. And why? Because he was selling pot. No other drugs were involved, period. What's more dangerous? A plant that makes you hungry (or paranoid, and then you stop because you don't like the feeling) or a f*cking gun?

I'm so sick of people being degenerative about marijuana. It's ruined the lives of my friends. They have felonies now. They can get jobs at a local diner and that's about it. We live in a college town, and no one is going to hire a felon. It should be legal and alcohol shouldn't be. Alcohol kills people. It either slowly kills the person drinking it, or it kills them because they've drank too much, or it kills the other person in the car accident, or it makes them violent and they brutally attack someone. Weed doesn't do any of those things. But the media makes you think it does.


Don't listen to everything your Doctor or your Rehab Therapist tells you. Most of them are in on the whole war against weed(that's what it is, it's not a war against drugs, it's against weed) because that means they make more money.
 
Sharky, I really do not appreciate your tone and minimizing my opinion and experiences that I have the RIGHT to have and have the RIGHT to voice the reasons why, just as you do. Do not tell me what I can and cannot advocate.
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I feel like I have posted this somewhere before. Anyway I am jealous of anyone who can smoke weed and have it help anxiety! It does the EXACT opposite for me! I mean it is so horrible how bad my anxiety levels skyrocket and I have tried several times because some part of me still hopes that it just takes getting used to or something. Oh well. :rolleyes:
 
The last time I smoked was the chronic. It was too strong for me and I od'd on it. I thought is was having a heart attack and I could not move. I think if it was legal and I could get a milder blend I would go back to smoking it. It stabalized me.

I wish the other states would catch up and all legalize it. I am so weary of the drug wars. I do not know how the states that legalize it will sell it. Makes me want to move there.
 
You can't OD on weed. Are you sure you weren't smoking spice?(sometimes it's called 'kronic')

Which, by the way, to anyone reading this... Spice is extremely dangerous and it CAN kill you in rare cases. But there have been plenty of cases where people who never had severe panic attacks now have them constantly. Spice is NOT an alternative to marijuana, and it does NOT have the same 'high' or effects. It will not cure any anxiety, pain, etc like marijuana can. I'm just saying this so anyone who is unaware does not buy the stuff thinking it is 'synthetic weed' which is what it is advertised as. It's extremely dangerous and no one knows the long term side effects of it. They sell spice or 'synthetic weed' (amongst many other names) in stores like smoke shops in little jars or little packets. Also, spice is a form of designer drug, and you should ALWAYS stay away from designer drugs. Those ones are the worst (in my opinion) because we have 0% knowledge of what they can do and what the long term effects are. So be careful!
 
Oh, and Gizmo - I reread what you wrote and I assume you are talking about synthetic weed. I smoked this stuff called Funky Monkey and it was extremely strong. I felt the same way - I thought I had to call an ambulance but eventually it went away. Honestly... For the next few hours I didn't know if I was alive or dead. But when it was happening my vision was all sorts of messed up, I felt bubbles all over my body, and I was actually telling my boyfriend 'I'm sorry' over and over because I thought I was going to be dead. Out of everything that has ever happened to me, that was the scariest moment of my life. So because of that, I did my research and am try to warn people about that stuff as much as possible. No one should ever have to experience that. Ever.
 
Wow do you guy self medicate on weed too? I thought I was alone here.... I need to stop, all it does is makes me sleep better...... I love weed, I detest the withdrawals, sorry for people who do not believe in withdrawals it does happen, I stopped in March, started last week, stop again tonight, I NEED SLEEP!

Sorry I don't believe 'you cannot get addicted to weed' I have/was for 16 years.....You smoke for that length of time, abuse it like I did, stop for a month, come back and tell me again, I may believe you
 
As with any drug, it can be abused. I have a medical marijuana card, and I use it for my PTSD symptoms. I've used it off and on since my early 20's. I am currently using it due to the recent debilitating impact of my symptoms. I am in therapy, and my therapist is aware of this. I do not take any other medications, and I have no other medical conditions. It has been immensely helpful for me in many ways. I only use it as needed, and through experience, I've found what amounts and methods work best.

For example, if I've been awake for more than 24 hours straight, I will use indica to help me wind down, and within an hour or two of using I am able to lie down and really fall asleep. It also enables me to eat, which I often forget to do. It works best for the unexpected "super trigger"...meaning that trigger that sends you into a heightened state of "fight or flight". When you're heart is pounding, you suddenly have bionic super hero hearing, you're scared and alert, and you can't come down from this state, smoking indica will slow down the heart rate, the racing thoughts, the fear and anxiety diminish...it's amazing, because rather than feeling "high", I just feel normal.

It's not necessary to use daily, and going without use for prolonged periods, based on how well I'm doing, does not have any negative impact on any progress that I've made. I don't have any experience with prolonged long term use (using daily for 6 months or more); so I can't comment on that. I have never used prescription meds for any of my PTSD symptoms. They have been suggested, but I've worked closely with my therapist, and taken a holistic approach with success.

I have my setbacks, but I have periods of optimum functioning as well. I cannot really comment on the use of both Mary Jane, and antidepressants. I've had the best success with medical marijuana, psychotherapy, regular exercise, yoga & meditation, naps, massages, and regular meals/sleep. I guess each of us has to find what "formula" works best for us...

I'm curious, you said you've made a lot of progress in the last year....in addition to the meds/pot, what does your symptom management regimen look like?
 
I wish I had a medical marjunia card, it's illegal here... costs a fortune, I had to stop after 3 days, cannot afford it and cannot take a charge etc etc.... If it was legal I would smoke it, I slept sound when I smoked it and ate like a horse!
 
Sorry I don't believe 'you cannot get addicted to weed' I have/was for 16 years.....You smoke for that length of time, abuse it like I did, stop for a month, come back and tell me again, I may believe you[/quote]

Sorcha, I think you can become addicted to anything...food, drugs, physical activities, sex...anything. I think that if you do something enough and with consistency, and it becomes a habit, then you're "addicted".
 
I was thinking about only using weed as a nighttime sleep aid, do you think that's reasonable? How long until the effectiveness is gone?

All drugs have their side effects, even cannabis. I've used it for sleep. I've found it's best to use it only when necessary, so if you can fall asleep without it, stop using it. It will remain effective this way because you don't build tolerance. If you are going through a period where you are overstimulated and unable to settle down without it, then use it in conjunction with other tools which help to relax you. I don't think it works by itself. It helps along with the other stuff, like therapy, yoga, etc. It doesn't work for everyone, just like any drug, you have to try it to see how it works for you.
 
I've been smoking pretty much every day for around 3 years, I find marijuana significantly relieves my symptoms. Of course it doesn't help if I don't have any, but isn't that the case with any medication? You have to take the medication to experience the relief of symptoms it causes. Of course cannabis cannot magically improve my life, but I feel it can certainly help keep my symptoms under control so that maybe I can take steps to improve my life.

I admit currently I am going through a rough time trying to get on SSI, wanting to find out how medical marijuana if I want to attempt that would or would not interfere. It is frusterating trying to figure all of that out, its like the one thing that helps I can't have proper access to(at this point). Yet, I could easily get prescribed anti-depressants which seem to either do nothing or cause something resembling psychosis neither of which do me any good.
 
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