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@lostforgottensoul I'm not sure if this would work, but you might want to consider. Call the police dept and explain things to them. Tell them she is not on the lease and that she's an addict and you need her out. They might come and try to talk with her, if she gets a bit defensive, they can section her and your problems are solved. They will bring her to the hospital and she will most likely be held. It's what I would do if I needed her out. Or you could just drop her off at a homeless shelter....
 
Or you could just drop her off at a homeless shelter....

That's illegal in Florida and the cops won't do anything about civil matters, which is what this is. You would have to marshment act her into a rehab and, I believe, that requires two signatures (not 100% on that). Its what my dad and I were going to do if she refused a rehab. She's not refusing to move nor going to a rehab. Its where and how to pay for it. I'm giving her kids a chance to figure out something. Shes only had a few days so I cant expect her to have a plan at the moment but on the way to and from walmart i did say "i dont want to be forced into evicting you", which I dont, but, that tells her I will if not out by the 31st. I said "we need a plan". Her son is looking as we speak. So, im giving them a chance to figure something out. She cant move up to either one of their houses but i dont think either one will allow her to be homeless so she may have to go to one of their houses for a bit until its figured out. But they need a chance to figure things out.

A dual diagnosis would be great if they can figure out a way to pay for it.
 
You tell me when I have time to go to the courthouse when I have to work 9am - 6pm Mon - Fri without missing ANY time for the next 4 weeks, when exactly I will have a chance to go to go to a courthouse open 8:15am - 5pm Mon - Fri?

The process starts with a letter, from you, no fees. You give her 3 days, I believe, for non payment of rent. There are other options; even if you want to do nothing else for a month you have to do this part first. This site seems to provide a template:

Florida Eviction Notice Form - Florida Eviction Notice Sample

Or this: How the Florida Eviction Process Works – 3 Day and 7 Day Notice

Your county clerk might have Saturday hours. Do they? How far are they from your workplace? Again - you might decide you can't deal with this part for a month, but that's no reason to not do the first step now.

It seems as of 2009 the fee for a one tenant eviction was set at $190. But that was a while ago. If you are just dealing with nonpayment of rent, no damages, it's likely this info is in the ballpark. Evict.com - Florida Landlord Tenant Law Evictions Leases Information [ARTICLES_6] PM Website by HEROPM

Almost every eviction lawyer will give you a free consultation.

Im encouraging you to keep a calmer head about the situation. Gather information. Getting pissed off about the family dynamic, or thinking they will do anything at all - it's probably a waste of time.

Challenge yourself to cope better, get the information, start the process of giving her notice which - I repeat - costs nothing and is essential to the rest of the process.
 
I totally understand what everyone who has posted on this thread is trying to do. Offer help and suggestions. Myself included. I'm not taking sides, I'm not defending anyone and I'm not putting anyone down. The only point I'd like to make is this....

@lostforgottensoul is trying her very best in a real shitty situation, and she's doing this, with severe physical disabilities on top of PTSD and a new job that she is trying to learn. I can't imagine how much physical pain she is in, but I know what I've dealt with the last 6 months with a pinched nerve, and I had all I could do to keep my cool at work and not completely lose it.

Sometimes physical pain overtakes everything else and it take everything that you have to focus on what your doing at the moment. It's mentally draining and it's exhausting which drains your mentally to the point of almost losing your mind at times...
 
That's more than fair, @She Cat. I'm taking into context how much lost has referred to her success with DBT helping her regulate, and encouraging her to apply those skills instead of immediately dysregulating. "My world just exploded" is not a regulated response to a stressor, it's an intensifying one - and I'm not seeing the down-regulation kick in. All the "I'm so sorries" in the world won't alleviate distorted thinking.

That being said - you're of course right. PTSD + pain makes a lot of things more difficult.
 
If she has no income now, she should qualify for medicaid and food stamps as long as she says she cooks her meals separately. That would open the doors to a rehab. Maybe one far, far away.
 
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On top of it all, when I research how to file an eviction in Florida (and yes, the first step is a typed notice given to the person) but it keeps saying that you have to place unpaid rent on the forms at the courthouse and you go to court. Their rent isn't unpaid and she is married to a lease holder. I cant just say, mid lease, oh nevermind, now you must move. Especially since she can prove rent has been paid to me by check every month for the exact same amount on time. There are tenant rights and tenant laws in Florida as well. And a spouce cannot just do that either. It does not matter if she herself isn't on the lease. And, it doesn't matter anyway as you must evict, lease or no lease and you still have to have a lawful reason for eviction. Addict yes, but no illegal drugs are in this house and the correct amount of medication has been taken so how do I prove she is an addict? I see huge holes in an eviction. You cannot claim that a lease holder isn't of sound mind when a VA medical record says otherwise. I honestly do not think it will get that far anyway and she said so much in so many words but I am just saying, it isn't as easy and everyone is making it out to be. I think it needs to happen by my dad or his now POAs as that is where it would have to start. I can't even prove she is an addict.

I didn't want anyone to feel lile I am blow off advise as I am not. I have taken the remainder of the advise given. I just do not feel right about starting an eviction on her, especially since she has only have had a few days. She is willing to go to rehab and I am giving them all a chance to find one.

And no, the court house for Seminole County (all of them as there seems to be 2) do not have Sat hrs.

So, I spoke my peace about eviction. Can we please move past that for the moment? Can I have support for the remainder of it please? I need support for the rest of it. I am on the edge and I need support. Please move past eviction for now.
 
she should qualify for medicaid

No, medicaid goes off of household imcome, meaning mine. I tried that in Leesburg when my dad had came up and got me out of KS and they denied me due to his income. They will do the same for her.

She is going to get foodstamps though.
 
@DharmaGirl, I didn't mean for you to stop talking. That was a post written way before you posted and just finished just now so it had nothing to do with your post. Please don't stop talking. Sorry, I didnt mean to make you (or anyone) feel bad about talking.
 
Have you tried calling social services in your county and explaining the situation to them? (Might have missed that somewhere.) I'm sure that your county and your state would rather someone, other than them, take care of her. But, it's a little hard to see her as your responsibility. What you have there is an abandoned person with chemical dependency issues. That sounds like a person who should be "in the system" and have a caseworker. Something to ask the county about?

I'm not sure what their definition of "household" is. I can kind of, maybe, see your father and his wife being considered part of your 'household'. I have a bit more trouble seeing her, under the current circumstances, considered that way. What's to keep anyone with an annoying Grandma from dropping her off on a stranger's porch and expecting them to care for her?

Where's she at with all this? It's a little hard to imagine her WANTING to stay with you. I can imagine her being overwhelmed and feeling like she has no choice. (So, you guys finally have something in common.) Is she at all considering doing any problem solving of her own?

Just to clarify the whole power of attorney thing. I saw a lawyer about that some time back. If I didn't designate someone, and something happened to me, it would have defaulted to my brother the narc and that wouldn't have been a good thing. So, I designated a couple of people and did the paperwork. BUT, my lawyer advised that I keep that paperwork myself, let them know where it is, tell them to talk to him, something like that. He said NOT to give the actual paperwork to the POA's because if they have it, they can use it. In theory, they could clean out my bank account, for example. That freaked me out a little. LOL So, they know who to contact, if they need to. Meanwhile, I'm safely in control of my own affairs and also safe from my brother, if anything should happen to me. I don't know where things are at with your dad. And I'm not totally sure this is the same in every state, but it seems likely that it is. A POA is a document you can draw up ahead of time and not use. But it also can give other people a dangerous amount of control over your affairs.
 
she's doing this, with severe physical disabilities on top of PTSD and a new job that she is trying to learn.

Oh, that's another level of issues. No sleep + mediciations = falling asleep at work dispite 5 hr energies that I am getting out of the vending machine. And all of it on my mind seems to crowd out any intake of information. I can't seem to set it aside in my mind and so my abilty to intake info seems to have been affected. I hear the class getting it and I am like "wait, what?". Thats a big issue since we are now into systems which is what I REALLY need to learn.

Pain has also increased. Added to needing to keep Chopper (my service dog in training, for those that don't know) out in the world meaning I need to load him, drive, unload him, walk a shitload after working all day, then load back up, drive back, and unload again.

That's already a lot for someone in pain. Increased pain and it seems impossible. But still a must.

I took him to Walmart before he was ready for Walmart simply because I had to go to take my step mom to walmart.

There are so many layers to this that I need support for and I don't want the thread to be hyper focused on something I am not comfortable doing at the moment. Which can change any day but right now, I am not comfortable with evicting her when she has only had a few days and her kids are searching hard for a rehab and calling every day, several times a day. I want to give them a chance to get her into a rehab.

I'm not sure what their definition of "household" is. I can kind of, maybe, see your father and his wife being considered part of your 'household'. I have a bit more trouble seeing her, under the current circumstances, considered that way.

Household income is the entire income of the household she currently lives in. If she moved to another house then its that household total income for everyone in that house. That is how medicaid works in Florida. I tried for it in Leesburg when I was out of a job and they would not continue on the site until I entered in checking acct numbers for everyone in the home. That is how they measure their income, though I was out of a job. And I had no lease there as my dad owned that house in Leesburg. Now forclosed on but just saying, that has nothing to do with a lease.

What's to keep anyone with an annoying Grandma from dropping her off on a stranger's porch and expecting them to care for her?

The law. My step mom already lived here. There maybe some rights she has due to a husband abandonment. I am trying to figure that out now.

Where's she at with all this? It's a little hard to imagine her WANTING to stay with you. I can imagine her being overwhelmed and feeling like she has no choice. (So, you guys finally have something in common.) Is she at all considering doing any problem solving of her own?

She is willing to go to a rehab. She is worried about State paid ones being worse then the ghetto as there are some dumps so she wants to visit them and I told her I would take her on the weekend to visit any but her son is looking and I am asking. Here in a bit when she gets up im going to ask if she spoke to him as he called last night but she didnt want to call him back. I am ever asking what he is doing but i am about to look for rehabs. But, going back to her, she is willing to go to a rehab and also willing to move. Her son told her she will never be homeless for as long as he is living and I made a comment that ahe wont be homeless and she said "if I stay with you I will" and I said nothing back as she was referencing being evicted. I am not going to correct her on that.

She is at a very low place and she needs therapy so I am trying to be as supportive as I can be as I don't want to end up with a step mon that comitted suicide.

I hope that answered your question. She just needs more then a few days.

But it also can give other people a dangerous amount of control over your affairs.

Yes it can. They have it and they are now using it. They've had full POA for a year apparently so they are now using it due to worry about him...i think. They had me deposit the rent check a day early so that they (brother & sisiter in law) knew where the money stood. They were talking about closing his chking acct and opening a new one but so far they havent but sister in law texted me last night to say "he closed down online banking and got 2 new debit cards" (even though he only had one debit card and its with him) so, so far, it still seems to be about keeping my step mom out of his money. When the addiction was real bad in Leesburg she forged his name on a check for $200 so thats why they had me grab his checkbook and box of checks. So i have them and because of that they may not close his entire account but yes, they have very scary control over someone that is still fully of sound mind.

They both are communicating with me and letting me talk to my dad when I want to though so thats good. One of my sisters said she didnt think this was right so then they cut off contact with her. Thus why I am trying to stay neurtral. I know he doesnt know they did that to my sister as he wouldnt allow it. But since i have to call one of their phones to get ahold of my dad, whom doesn't own a cell phone, I am staying neutral. Making each think i am on their side when I am not. Im doing the same thing with my step mom so that I can peacefully move her out because if she really wanted to she could refuse to move then i would be forced to evict and I am trying to avoid that. If i can keep it all peaceful then i can scoot her out without an eviction. It seems that is what I am doing, at the moment anyway.
 
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I hope that answered your question.
Yep! It sounds like you're handling things pretty well. (Even if you're stressed.) It also sounds like no one is actually planning to dump this whole mess on you long term. (Although I can see worrying that that's where it's going.) I think it still might pay for your step-mom to check in with the county. Her situation has changed quite a bit. So has your household situation, since you don't have any income coming in from your dad now.

I hope they all play nice!
 
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