Political Venting

[anthony]

He literally said he would take these people down.

I'm sure that is what he believed when he said it, but saying it and making it happen, are very different things. I think we can all admit, there are a lot of powerful people, more powerful than Trump, who don't want information out there about Epstein.

Trump also says a lot of crazy shit, just to put it out there, and see what comes back. He is very good at that, and he often gets some stupid crazy deals happening as a result of his crazy statements. He is a master of the deal, that is for certain. Not very presidential, but he gets shit done, more than most Presidents. Especially this term, where he knows its one term and he's going balls to the wall with a do not give a f*ck attitude, just to see what he can fix. He will make some change, and other things, the power against him will simply be too much.

To truly change broken systems, you need to tear them down and build from the ground-up. Again, the much more powerful and influential people behind the scenes, will not let that happen, because it will cause them massive problems.

Look at where this Somali daycare issue started. Now they're finding the same corruption across the country, not just by Somalis, and other types of corruption are being found on tangents. Newscum literally vito'd looking into the billions spent and allocated to homelessness, where the vote was unanimous to look into it. Why would a sitting Governor not want oversight and remove corruption? The entire system is corrupt - hence it needs to be pulled down to nothing and built from the ground up in order to function correctly. Old wishes and constitutions were not made to suit current society, but people hold onto that stuff because it suits them, not because its best for todays society. Endemic issues.

 

[No More]

I'm sure that is what he believed when he said it, but saying it and making it happen, are very different things. I think we can all admit, there are a lot of powerful people, more powerful than Trump, who don't want information out there about Epstein.

I came to say this.

This is not a job for a hammer.

I think what’s in those files, the countries, the people it implicates is far worse than probably anyone expected. Elites / people in power have abused children since the dawn of time, that it is still happening should be no surprise. I think the reach and depth of these files, is.

It needs careful consideration and diplomacy, a clean oversight panel, and due justice. Not the media storm shitshow of misinformation and mudslinging which is of no help to anyone but those wanting to keep things covered up.

 

[shimmerz]

I think we can all admit, there are a lot of powerful people, more powerful than Trump, who don't want information out there about Epstein.

Yeah, I agree with this. What you are saying is more on the practical side of what this all is. Literally I believe everything would have to crash to the ground, as you say before it could be built back up again. I can't imagine Trump would want that as his legacy.

He is a master of the deal, that is for certain. Not very presidential, but he gets shit done,

This is really respect about him. He absolutely gets shit done and that is amazing. I can see how that could be hard for people to keep up with. Personally, I like it. He also has a horrible time admitting mistakes, which I think is a characteristic that is good mostly for him to be battling the way he is.

Look at where this Somali daycare issue started.

Yeah, but that is one of the things. You have a 23 year old kid who doesn't know what malevalent means that roots all this stuff out and not him? It has become clear to me that he is wanting to pull in money, but not look at where tax payer money is being thrown into the fraud money pit.

You are right. Nobody is perfect and I certain am not one of those people who thinks he plays 4D chess or has a bunch of white hats around him. I wish that this world wasn't this world when it comes to this child trafficking, sex trade etc stuff - but this world is this world.

Thanks for the reminders @anthony . Have a great day!

 

[shimmerz]

It needs careful consideration and diplomacy, a clean oversight panel, and due justice. Not the media storm shitshow of misinformation and mudslinging which is of no help to anyone but those wanting to keep things covered up.

Truer words could not be said. Thanks @No More

 

[Rose White]

or has a bunch of white hats around him

Nice *tips hat to logic reference*

 

[shimmerz]

*tips hat to logic reference*

I see the 4D and other hero worshipping the exact opposite to the Trump and everything he does should make you enraged. I do believe we are in the midst of a war based on psychological warfare and that both of these things are manipulative. But that's just me.

 

[shimmerz]

Keith Ellison hearing on Minnesota. All I have to do is watch these things to see how our political systems are run by criminals and that the safeties that we as citizens are told are in place to protect us from these types are actually not in place.

For anyone who is interested. For those of you who protext or have strong feelings on this - I imagine you are all on top of this since it would be silly to protest without being well informed.

 

[shimmerz]

Riot Inc.

I think the majority of protests are nonsense and fake. Most contain paid actors, and whilst there are some legitimate concerned people within it, too many paid actors now, which means its fake and biased. Protests are now created by political parties and their NGO's to stir shit and cause trouble. Those paid actors, attendance, then helps bring in more people, good and bad. Just too fake.

Seamus Bruner refers to it as Riots Inc. This backs @anthony's posting about the protests being funded by NGO's to stir shit and cause trouble - with the main goal being if something is threatening the money stream (like Minnesota fraud) the paid bad actors are sent out. I can't find the clips right now but there have been protestors that have admitted they were being paid.

This clip starting at around 18:00 has Seamus Bruner speaking to this.

 

[Rose White]

the protests being funded

It’s a bit odd to find a problem with NGO’s funding protests when there is a pivotal NGO called Citizens United that went to the Supreme Court 40 years ago (damn I feel old) to argue for the right for NGOs to politically influence the American people through financing and media—and won.

 

[shimmerz]

Ah, I get it now. So this is why the media keeps calling them 'mostly peaceful protests' even when there are fires being set, there is looting, women try to run over police officers etc. Because it is legal for NGO's to support protests as long as it relates to logistics, but funding, directing, or enabling violence is not so legal.

I wonder who dropped off and payed for these?

with this being a counter to the video above.

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These protests are violent. I have been in a protest where the agressors were the police and military that were pitted against us as we sang O Canada and were on our knees. Looks nothing like the protests where protestors kick cars, attack authoritarian figures (with and without cars) and block traffic. None of these are peaceful protests and you can't simply blame them on the police.

 

[Rose White]

None of these are peaceful protests

Are you aware that there are on average hundreds of protests per week in American cities and towns? No one would have enough time or care to read about all of them if they were covered, which they wouldn’t be because it would be boring. You can’t filter your news sources to get that information because no one cares. What do people like to see in the news? Exactly what you shared—the spectacle.

 

[shimmerz]

So what? The statement I made was that these protests are violent and they are being funded by NGO's. That is not legal. Period. And when contrasted by the truckers protest where literally peaceful (not mostly peaceful who run over people with their cars and block traffic and burn buildings to the ground) are being beaten to the point where they are in hospital.

And you keep dodging. I am not interested in this convo if you continue not addressing what is being put out.

You can’t filter your news sources to get that information because no one cares

No one cares??? hahahahaha - I have spent the better part of the last 6 years listening to whining and complaining about how violent protestors are complaining when the police push back.

Come back at me with something addressing violence by participance and the fact that they are being funded by NGO's or not. Credible stuff. The smoke and mirrors method you are using is not something I am interested in.