Political Venting

[shimmerz]

This is baiting.

My apologies - it wasn't meant to be. I feel like I was stating a fact that most don't look at things for themselves but rather rely on external agencies.

 

[Chris-duck]

My apologies - it wasn't meant to be. I feel like I was stating a fact that most don't look at things for themselves but rather rely on external agencies.

This is true. But on both sides. Everyone looks into the bits that most align with their values, n sometimes thats msm n sometimes thats stuff less looked at on either side. Because someone agrees with how things are depicted in msm doesnt necessarily mean they haven't looked at other sources.

Folks have different values. I have no major issue with immigration (despite abuse from people illegally in the uk) because I know i would illegally enter another country if it came to it if the uk became unsafe for me for some reason. Thats why I find it hard to judge anyone else for that.

Thats not all directed at you, its just me stating why I dont agree with ICE despite any of the news stories. Immigration just isn't an issue to me. Maybe im missing something but ive not heard an argument yet that has changed my view nor do I expect to change anyone elses

 

[Survivor3]

I just watched a Pam Bondi news clip on sky TV. My first impression is that she's quite nuts.

 

[shimmerz]

she's quite nuts.

You should have seen the whole thing. No impression there. She is defensive and is ducking very important questions, hostile, and a nut - so yes, I agree. She needs to be out of that position. I mean honestly, she is right. The democratics did shit the 4 years they were in - and then we can talk about Obama didn't do anything, Clinton I suspect did - but there is strong evidence he was a part of the trafficking - in Haiti as well.

But here is the thing. There are now released files that prove without a shadow of a doubt that this organized traffficking and murder and words I don't even want to say have been happening and still are. This needs to be shut down and if Trump doesn't do then he is culpable.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

 

[shimmerz]

Everyone looks into the bits that most align with their values

Not sure why people aren't hearing me. No. I do not look at things that align to my side. I look at both - almost always I go right to the source - and make my own desicion. Bias is an easy thing to get sucked into. If I hadn't watched Bondi herself during that meeting I would have had a totally skewed idea of what happened - now the conclusion that I have come to si that she does not deserve to be nor is she qualified to b in that office. She needs to be in jail.

She was literally asked to acknowledge the victims of Epsteins and associates crimes and she went on the spewing how the Trump admisistration was setting records within finnce.

Unf*ckingbelievable how disgusting these people are.

 

[Chris-duck]

Not sure why people aren't hearing me.

I hear you. I just disagree.

 

[shimmerz]

Everyone looks into the bits that most align with their values

This isn't a disagreement. This is a broad brush.

 

[Survivor3]

You should have seen the whole thing. No impression there. She is defensive and is ducking very important questions, hostile, and a nut - so yes, I agree. She needs to be out of that position. I mean honestly, she is right. The democratics did shit the 4 years they were in - and then we can talk about Obama didn't do anything, Clinton I suspect did - but there is strong evidence he was a part of the trafficking - in Haiti as well.

But here is the thing. There are now released files that prove without a shadow of a doubt that this organized traffficking and murder and words I don't even want to say have been happening and still are. This needs to be shut down and if Trump doesn't do then he is culpable.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Are there videos of her on YouTube?

 

[shimmerz]

They are - usually with an independent podcaster or journalist providing narrative through it. There are a few of them out there and this link is a long one but very informative.

 

[shimmerz]

This one is better still --- very to the point at 18:11. I am not a fan of Alex Jones as his narrative is very strong and I like to form my own. But from 18:11 until the end of the Bondi clip - very very telling.

 

[anthony]

She is defensive and is ducking very important questions, hostile, and a nut

I don't think she is a nut. She is no different than all the rest, a lawyer and trying to be political, all wrapped up together. Not the best package that job.

This needs to be shut down and if Trump doesn't do then he is culpable.

You can't blame Trump. Leaders are spokespeople, they are not all seeing Gods with all reaching powers. I think there is enough evidence of this already from Trumps first year, some things he got his way, some things he did not, some things are still in the legal line awaiting decisions. This applies to all leaders who are not dictators of communist countries - there are hoops, there are many people behind the scenes getting their way, and there is not much the leader can do about it. A lot of give and take happens in democracy.

 

[shimmerz]

I don't think she is a nut.

Yes, I see your point. You are right, she is exactly the same as the rest. I have a deep lack of respect for people who are not straightforward. Also when people lie about 'I have a billion pages of Epstein emails and I am going to ge3t these bad people' to 'President Trump is such a stud - look at all the money we have. We need to leave this behind.'

You can't blame Trump. Leaders are spokespeople, they are not all seeing Gods

I think leaders are people that do hard things for the good that they platformed on. He literally said he would take these people down. Said Hillary belonged in prison. Spoke about 'the island' and Bill Clinton and Prince (formerly) Andrew. There is a difference between morally right and legally right. Generally when I speak about 'rightness' I am referring to morally right. You are right though, this is more about legal rights. I think had had that all sorted out until the documents came out without the coops redacted. Now I think it is both legally and morally corrupt. What is your spin on that?

Killed me though to see those women who were trafficked not even be acknowledged by Bondi. They are all creeps.