News The Big Holes In Trump's Policies.

[Justmehere]

I have talked to many Trumpsters and they are deep into the personality cult that can follow a narcissist. When I have asked why Trump? They are not picking him for his policies. They actually almost never name a single policy of Trump that distinguishes him from other candidates, but they will list so many things about his personality that they want. For example, a common one is that they like his ego, "we need someone who will be a bully FOR the US."

They don't yet realize this doesn't work like they are being promised it will. I have been exposed to narcissists and cults before, and it's heartbreaking to see.

But the more we can educate undecideds of the dangers of Trump - both personality and policy wise, the more we can insulate them from falling for Trump's cult down the road.

Policies don't really matter to Trump, or his core followers, but they do matter to so many others.

It does help pull people away from that cult-ish nightmare that is the Trump phenomena. One thing that especially helps is to point out not only the holes in Trump's policies, but why another way will work better to meet the needs people have - especially needs around fear and anger Americans are feeling two area the establishment. I can share so much on this. When people who are kinda leaning towards Trump are offered solutions in Sanders or third party options they move away from the pull towards Trump. A local multi-partisan neverTrump group that I help lead is quickly learning that this works unlike anything else we have found yet.

This kind of approach can help dampen the draw to a narcissist or personality cult for people at risk.

In a nutshell: a discussion on how bad his policies are does actually help when dealing with undecideds or people at risk for sliding towards Trump in the future. It's not as hopeless as it may feel.

 

[hodge]

Con Man. Bankrupt 4 times. Trust him to lead us, and get a model immigrant wife or two. Does not...

Lol, Changling, good one about the wall -- priceless!

 

[hodge]

I have talked to many Trumpsters and they are deep into the personality cult that can follow a narci...

Your post gives me hope, JMH, that maybe enough people can be swayed away from Trump given enough reasons they can understand. Damn, I was under the spell of a narcissistic mother for more than 30 years, but I was raised by her. I don't really understand people under his sway who are not his children.

Anyway, for what it's worth, my hubby and I are doing everything we can to persuade anyone we encounter who is a Trumpster. What else can we do?

 

[mary1979]

The average Aussie doesn't think about particular policies or changes they want implemented when they vote, except on the topic of economics.

I can pretty much pick who will get in here based on the economy (which is ridiculous, the economy is driven by forces well beyond our PM or even treasurer)

In times of fear, when business is collapsing and the world looks bleak, we will always vote liberal because their rep is one of penny pinching and tightening the budget (considered leaving the lower classes behind and neglecting the poor or disabled if you're a labor supporter)
In less fearful 'boom' times we will typically vote labor because their rep is one of splashing out, sharing the wealth. (considered 'wasteful' and the entire cause of the bleak times if your a liberal supporter lol)

 

[Deleted member 28740]

What else can we do?

Well… What Donald's children did. They did not even register to vote in NY as republicans for the primary. They did not vote for daddy.

 

[EveHarrington]

So if I moved to Australia I wouldn't be liberal anymore? Interesting.

 

[EveHarrington]

Well… What Donald's children did. They did not even register to vote in NY as republicans...

What was THAT about? Seems so weird!

 

[Deleted member 28740]

In less fearful 'boom' times we will typically vote labor because their rep is one of splashing out, sharing the wealth. (considered 'wasteful' and the entire cause of the bleak times if your a liberal supporter lol)

Yep, the Reaganism myth. He increased the debt:

Economist Mike Kimel has noted that the former Democratic Presidents (Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Lyndon B. Johnson, John F. Kennedy, and Harry S. Truman) all reduced public debt as a share of GDP, while the last four Republican Presidents (George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush, Ronald Reagan and Gerald Ford) all oversaw an increase in the country's indebtedness.[37] Economic historian J. Bradford DeLong, observed a contrast not so much between Republicans and Democrats but between Democrats and "old-style Republicans (Eisenhower and Nixon)" on one hand (decreasing debt) and "new-style Republicans" on the other (increasing debt).[38][39]David Stockman, former director of the Office of Management and Budget, blamed the "ideological tax-cutters" of the Reagan administration for the increase of national debt during the 1980s.[40] Former Treasury officialBruce Bartlett attributed the increase in the national debt since the 1980s to the policy of "starve the beast".[41][42] While noting that George H.W. Bush's budget deal in 1990 was one of the reasons for improvement of the fiscal situation in 1990s, Bartlett was highly critical of George W. Bush for creating budget deficits by reducing tax rates and increasing spending in the early 2000s.

 

[mary1979]

So if I moved to Australia I wouldn't be liberal anymore? Interesting.

I know right?
Took me ages to wrap my head around that too lol

Your democrats equals labor here and republicans equals liberal.

Republicans are scary gun toting morons who should not be given ownership of a toilet brush let alone leadership of the most powerful nation in the world.

 

[mary1979]

Yep, the Reaganism myth. He increased the debt:

Economist Mike Kimel has noted that the former Dem...

Exactly!
People is sheep :(

 

[Deleted member 28740]

What was THAT about?

Jenna JohnsonThe Washington Post
Here's Donald Trump's latest organizing embarrassment: Two of his adult children did not know they had to register as Republicans more than six months ago to vote in New York's April 19 Republican primary.

"They were, you know, unaware of the rules, and they didn't register in time, so they feel very, very guilty -- they feel very guilty," Trump said during a telephone interview with Fox News' "Fox and Friends" on Monday morning.

One of the hosts commented: "Oops."

Trump said that he understands the mistake and that it's "fine" that his children Ivanka Trump and Eric Trump, who are not affiliated with a political party, did not register as Republicans in time to participate in the upcoming primary -- although he joked that he might cut off their allowances.

 

[hodge]

Yeah, especially because he has said he would date his daughter if she was not his daughter. What a total creep!!